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[Andrefe1998]

look im not saying that he has to be one of the protagonists of the future games, but i would like to at least see him or talk to him in the next games, for at list know what is happening to him, it bothers me that he is living his life, and we hardly know what's happening, in inquisition I wish he had spoken  the text from the letter than to give us that **** letter, i want to see him with my romance, and knows that he is happy with her.

[Andrefe1998]

and the DLC dosn't need to play with him, could be with the inquisitor, it could be that his romance asked for our help and we go after the warden to help him in his quest to solve the calling

[Draninus]

I'm in the same boat.  The chance of my Warden's personality being "off" with a voice is less concerning to me, mainly because I would expect his personality to be a bit different considering it's been at least 10 years (in game) since I've last interacted with that character.  As long as the voice is generally right, then I'm good.  I'd rather that and completely finish his story (even if that results in death) then rely on "head cannon".  Just my personal opinion.

[Andrefe1998]

we could go to the deep roads and other places, fight with darkspawns to solve, it just need to be creative 

[movieguyabw]

Why does the warden has to have a voice if you are playing him in a dlc? Is bioware obligated to voice every PC it makes. We can just have that dialogue thing again for the dlc.

 

If they are going to bring the Warden back, I'd rather he be an NPC than a player character.  And I'm fairly certain that's the route they'd go with him.  HoF's story was Origins.  Not Inquisition (or any DLC/Expansions for it)

[Andrefe1998]

I'm in the same boat.  The chance of my Warden's personality being "off" with a voice is less concerning to me, mainly because I would expect his personality to be a bit different considering it's been at least 10 years (in game) since I've last interacted with that character.  As long as the voice is generally right, then I'm good.  I'd rather that and completely finish his story (even if that results in death) then rely on "head cannon".  Just my personal opinion.

Yes!! good thinking, leliana has changed a lot, even morrigan is a lot different, the warden could be also

[Andrefe1998]

If they are going to bring the Warden back, I'd rather he be an NPC than a player character.  And I'm fairly certain that's the route they'd go with him.  HoF's story was Origins.  Not Inquisition (or any DLC/Expansions for it)

 

yes yes

[Andrefe1998]

To be honest, I'm already a little unsettled by as much as they've already done with the HOF. Neither DA:2 nor Inquisition has made me feel as much like the character I played was my character as Origins did. Part of that was because she didn't have a voice. When she said something, I could imagine it in any way I want. Whatever accent, tone, and personality she held was entirely for me to decide. With Hawke, it became strange. She was sarcastic and funny a lot of the times, but there were points where she spoke automatically in that same way that just didn't fit. 

 

"What happened to that awful murderer who killed my sister?"
"His killing days are over. B)"

 

Generally she's the type to make stupid comments like that, but the personality system didn't let me take into consideration something very important - the situation. So appropriate or not, Hawke was silly. There was seldom room for real grief or anger because the game knew she was usually funny, so when it made her speak automatically, that's what she was. 

 

The Inquisitor is a whole new problem entirely. This could very well just be the voice I chose, but she always speaks so neutrally, like she isn't actually holding a conversation with a friend or another person so much as she's interviewing somebody, or something. She always shows too much emotion, not enough emotion, or no emotion at all. I've chalked this up to me intending for her to have a tone where she doesn't. Because we don't know whether she's usually supposed to be aggressive, apathetic, angry or whatever, the safest route is that she can be any of those things. The result of this is that I feel disconnected with her. She says things, but I don't feel like this is the story of my character.

 

Suffice to say, the HOF was my character through and through. She didn't make inappropriate jokes when I didn't want her to, she didn't speak in a tone that didn't fit the situation. She said what I wanted her to say and how I wanted her to say it. Giving her a voice, any voice, would take that away from me, and it would make her Bioware's character rather than mine.

 

Dragon Age has moved on from what it was in Origins. I like the voices. They give character and life, they make you feel like the person you're playing is truly involved with the world around them, like they actually have cause to be noticed. They took that to such great lengths even to the point where you can sometimes contribute to party banter. It's a next step, a better step, but it's not a step my HOF was involved in. The only good thing to do with our characters in Origins is let us decide what happens. Does he/she and their LI go off and live happily ever after? Does he/she die somehow? Does he/she simply disappear? Those should be left up to me, just like the fact that my warden now searches for the Calling should have been up to me, not Bioware. Bringing Hawke into the game is fine. I'd love to play Hawke in a DLC (and kind of wish I could keep playing her through Inquisition, if only because that armor is so damn great) because she's Bioware's.

 

The HOF is just that - the Hero of Ferelden. She stopped the Blight in a year and did a lot of Mary-Sue things. She deserves a break. I'll let my Inquisitor become the Hero of Thedas (?), then I hope to move onto a new character in Dragon Age 4.

 

My friend its the END OF THE WORLD, there's no breaks, this is not a job, he has to help or everyone can die, and about the warden's personality, is the same as hawke, if you were a clown in dragon age 2 he would still be a bad ass in dragon age inquisition, so for me that doesn't matter, and it has been 10 years, he has to change

[Teraxo]

Doesn't care if they bring the Warden or not, never liked him neither her, but I don't think BioWare is going to do this

[Dyne-]

Not including The Hero of Ferelden in the inquisition story just seems odd especially if you romanced Morrigan/Leliana. By the end of Origins, Awakening, Golems of Amgarrak and Witch Hunt the HoF is arguably one of the strongest, most influential, and most feared individuals in the dragon age world we've been exposed to thus far. If you think of each deed the warden did over the course of the first game and the DLC, the amount of pull that individual would bring ( if he/she is still alive ) to the inquisition is staggering. None of the PCs thus far have been able to beat the odds like the HoF.

 

The decision to exclude the HoF from inquisition only creates more questions than it does answers ( which is great for writers ). Most people who kept the warden alive probably feel that the only way he would ignore Corypheus ( and his romance ) is if he was fighting an even bigger threat than Corypheus. With the place that the HoF and the Grey Wardens are in right now Bioware has an opportunity to create a superb story for the Dragon Age series as a whole if they utilize him properly. Especially if the HoF is the Warden Commander of Ferelden. 

 

In my opinion Bioware pretty much screwed themselves by giving players the opportunity to influence the events of the world to the degree that the HoF can, and creating a character of epic proportions ( similar to Commander Shepard ) but then doing their best to sidestep him or sweep him under the rug. At this point they're better off bringing the warden back as a PC to wrap up his story, or letting him go out in a blaze of glory ( cameo, DLC, or PC ) worthy of the characters reputation. The sidestepping is old and takes away from the new games everytime. The same will be said if the Inquisitor is sidestepped in the next game given the influence that the inquisition could have on the world.

 

But, I digress. Giving the HoF a voice is fine. The character always had a voice, the only difference is that we chose the entire text response as opposed to something ambiguous on a dialog wheel. It may just be me, but if The Warden spoke any of the responses that I chose in origins, with the voice I chose while creating the character, I wouldn't feel less attached to the character as a result.

 

Oh, and with that said I did enjoy inquisition but it could have been so much more story wise. The inquisitor is an incredibly weak character compared to hawke or the human noble warden in origins. Both of those stories infuse the player with a sympathy for their PCs current plight and a desire to see them succeed. Pretty sure I wanted to kill Howe everytime I saw him in origins after he massacres the Cousland family.

 

The inquisitor goes from prisoner to leader immediately. Never before have I been forcefed a character like that who remained boring and disposable the entire game. I literally would have sacrificed him to save Hawke or Stroud given the choice.

[Tali 25651]

We all know the male Warden will be voiced by Troy Baker

[Saphiron123]

 

First of all my English is not very perfect because im Brazilian, so i translate this text in google translator, if you read some grammar errors... sorry, but let's get down to business

 

I loved Dragon Age Inquisition, but the part of the Hero of Ferelden really pissed me off, so I kind of thought, why dont you make a DLC where we play as our Warden trying to find the answer to solving his calling, so we import our character, we can customize him, this customization will have some voices, where we can choose, can be a couple per class, of course voices that fit each class, so our Warden will finally have a voice and you can put him in other stories in the future, and perhaps at the end we can see him returning for our romances, because not showing him is starting to get boring, needs to be solved, and I think that would be the best way.

 

I'd rather have a whole game then DLC, but voices were so rudimentary for the old wardens so we could all forgive having a set of voices same as in Inquisiiton. It'd be great to see the warden again, updated 10 years, under our control. The CC can recreate them easily enough.

Our decisions just MATTER so much more with the hero and his friends.

And a new warden is always an option if the orlesian one isn't (I enjoyed my orlesian waren, but i bet they were few and far ebtween). Still the difference between the hero and a new warden commander is just some of the dialogue and a few introductions (obviosuly it's nto THAT easy, but you get what I'm saying, it's all script).

[Bethgael]

It's not going to happen--because players took their HoF too many places that could not possibly be taken into account by the development team (and given they managed to stuff up the trigger for a simple conversation between Loghain/Alistair and Morrigan if the child happened, could you imagine??). This was the strength of DA:O--we could headcanon our Warden anywhere we wanted.

 

I've already had one headcanon wipe. My Cousland rogue boy, who romanced Zevran and was Alistair's friend (and, let's face it, had a bit of a crush), decided at the Landsmeet that he would take the lump and marry Anora because 1) Alistair wanted to stay a Warden and didn't think he'd do a better job than Anora would--and my Warden, frankly, agreed, but also because he didn't want to force his BFF into something he didn't want to do, and 2) neither of them trusted Anora, so my Warden figured he could do the job and keep an eye on her. Zevran was fine with that (in-game discussion and all), so, yay.

 

Then, when Alistair and my Inquisitor were discussing whether it was possible the HoF would be at Adamant, Alistair said that my Warden exiled him. "[the warden] decided that he liked Anora better than me (maybe something about "cosying up" to her--I forget the exact words) and exiled me to Orlais." Oh, and my Warden "took a dark path" and "not to expect [the HoF] to be on our side." No, no, he didn't, in fact. At all. He and Ali were at 100% friendship and they took down everything as a team, and my Warden was quite religious and even managed to agree with Alistair re: Morrigan (of course, my Warden did do the DR, so maybe that was a problem for Ali. But, importantly he didn't ask Alistair to do it instead). Connor stayed alive, as did Isolde (ugh), My HoF didn't do a damned thing Alistair disagreed with, and everyone was hunky dorey. [In fact, given in DA2 I kind of presume that the "warden business" at the end of Act 2 with Alistair--in this iteration--and Carver off looking for something, I can only resume it was their expedition that did the first lot of scouting for Varric's red lyrium and--so who was really heading down to the dark side, hmm?)

 

Okay, so maybe that's just what Alistair thought happened, and I can see it was, kind of, an "explanation" for why Alistair wasn't at Amaranthine or the W-C of Ferelden or helping recruit and whatnot, but it took some mental adjustments from what I'd previously had in my head for that DA:O game. Especially since at the end of Act 2 in DA2 mentioned above, Alistair's still referring to The Warden as his "good friend", so.... *mental hoopjumps*.....

 

There's too many complications. Dead Wardens. Different romances (single and multiple). Choices, in-head alignment that could be anything from "goody two-shoes" to "Sith Lord kills the kids." And that's just in game complications.

 

It's not just whether they romanced someone who's no longer in the game (say, Zevran or a deceased Alistair). I had a mage girl who never romanced anyone because the poor little twit never lost her candle for Cullen.

 

Who is now the Commander of the Inquisition.

 

And, in her import, my Inquisitor didn't romance Cullen--he romanced Cassandra.

 

So, would I get to demand my girl gets another go at him, 10 years on, now that Cullen's all regretty and suchlike? (Of course not, that's just an example of one of the literally 100s of possibilities that Bioware wisely decided not to go there. But it could happen in my headcanon post DA:I, because Bio doesn't canon it at all).

Even what they did do with the HoF doesn't make any sense in context. If, for example, you have Alistair as The DA:I Warden, and he romanced The DA:O Warden, he tells you up front what she's up to. He then mentions Fiona and Avernus (if Avernus lives) and the research they'd done on why Fiona lost The Taint. My Inquisitor had sided with the mages, so Fiona was in the damned Castle. Yet, at no time could I say, "well, hey, get her back here--she can effing talk to Fiona." (And, no, you can't even headcanon that Alistair does, offstage, because Fiona makes a point of saying she doesn't talk to him). But even with that aside, Corypheus is causing a fake Calling, and the Inquisition has resources The Warden can use in his/her own quest. Isn't the absolute best place for current info at Skyhold?

 

Also, different Wardens would have different reasons for researching The Calling. On the surface, it might be "to save wardens" but for a Queen, ending the Calling = losing the Taint = possibility of heir (even if not with her, for Alistair, because the last Civil War was partly an inheritance issue. Can't have that happen again). Similarly, the Prince-Consort. Other Wardens would have different reasons. Maybe for kids, maybe for life, maybe to prevent the fake Calling from ever being used again.... etc.

 

Note: none of these are complaints, they're just to illustrate the following:

 

So, if even the little we have is internally inconsistent, then it would be a Really Bad Idea for Bioware to try a DLC that takes control of the player's Warden. The BSN would go up in flames. It was bad enough when Bio retconned Anders, and he wasn't even a PC.

[Dai Grepher]

As far as I'm concerned, the Hero is the main character of Dragon Age. BioWare should bring the Hero back and should account for all the possible voices. Technology keeps getting better. In the near future, they may be able to synth a voice to sound different in various ways, and save that sound data to a small file. Even if they need to get all the old Origins voice actors together (and find a suitable replacement for the late Robin Sachs) then so be it. Even if the Hero just has a small quest arc like Hawke did in Here Lies the Abyss, that will work just fine for all those voice actors.

 

As for the choices the Hero would make, that should not be difficult at all. A simple psych profile in Dragon Age: Keep would solve that. Just click on your Hero, and fill out all the questions as to moral leaning, attitude, etc until you have their personality.

[Winged Silver]

They'd have to get into this debate about how much to import from the games, and if they even wanted to reference some of the minor decisions (The Keep covers very very few decision points from Origins).

 

I think it'd be very difficult to reintroduce the Warden as a playable character without alienating a lot of people, who may have had their own ideas for how their Warden acted, sounded, looked, etc. 

 

My guess is that given all the potential for it to go wrong, they probably won't try that route. I could be wrong, and I certainly wouldn't feel too strongly about it, one way or another.

[prosthetic soul]

We all know the male Warden will be voiced by Troy Baker

DAMNIT you ****ing beat me to it.  You sly little devil. 

 

Seriously though, Troy needs to take a vacation.  Gettin tired of hearing him everywhere. 

[Ser Kilroy]

Just have Samuel L. Jackson as the voice actor problem solved  

[Rawgrim]

Leave the character alone. I certainly don't want to see a dumbed down version of him in an upcoming game. All of his specs gone, only able to use 8 abilities, only 5 choices when it comes to the "weapon styles". No thanks.

[FKA_Servo]

DAMNIT you ****ing beat me to it.  You sly little devil. 

 

Seriously though, Troy needs to take a vacation.  Gettin tired of hearing him everywhere. 

 

In keeping with the decision to offer multiple voices, we'll get to choose between Troy Baker and Nolan North.

 

Regardless of gender, though.

[ThreeF]

You don't need to talk to HoF in order for him/her to be in the game and for you to get a conclusion, there are ways, angsty ways but still....

[Saphiron123]

You don't need to talk to HoF in order for him/her to be in the game and for you to get a conclusion, there are ways, angsty ways but still....

I prefer he/she talks. There will never eb another silent protagonist, and he's too complex to make an NPC.

I'd rather have a choice between a new warden and the hero, both fully voiced, affecting the dialogue in the game and how our decisions influence it.

[Saphiron123]

Leave the character alone. I certainly don't want to see a dumbed down version of him in an upcoming game. All of his specs gone, only able to use 8 abilities, only 5 choices when it comes to the "weapon styles". No thanks.

If you honestly don't want to play it because the'll just screw it up, that probably means dragon age is alreayd dead. I for one would want to see them try, and rbing back my hero, instead of giving me heroes like hawke and the inquisitior, who never quite filled the warden's shoes. 

[ThreeF]

I prefer he/she talks. There will never eb another silent protagonist, and he's too complex to make an NPC

This is not what I meant , it is possible to encounter HoF in a state where he/she does not need/can't talk. It's rather easy to do.

[DarkKnightHolmes]

Voiced Warden???

 

Just add some epilogue slides where they reunite with their LI or something else that leaves us with a nice conclusion and every body wins!

[Nefla]

Just leave the Warden alone >_<