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Why is Iron Bull so submissive to Vivienne?


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Deanna

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So I like Iron Bull, he's a bad ass and funny and he doesn't let people tell him what to do, I mean what are they gonna do, right? But with Vivienne in the party he becomes this spineless little bi*** ex:

Viv: Iron Bull darling, stop picking at that scab it'll never heal properly

Iron Bull: But it'll make a really cool scar, look it already looks like...uugghh ok, sorry ma'am, I'll put the bandage back on


And again..


Viv: Iron Bull are you going to clean your weapon from the last battle?

Iron Bull: Uh no, we'll be killing something else in a few minutes anyway and the blood makes it more scary, you know the bad guys see blood all over a weapon and think...uuhh..mmm..ok I'll clean it, sorry ma'am.


Like what the hell? I don't understand why he lets her tell him what to do. I mean I thought that's who he was. I specifically remember watching a video of Bulls voice actor saying his previous character, James in ME3, was the kind of soldier who was ready to take orders and follow em, but Iron Bull don't tell him what to do, you don't give him orders, he'll probably smash you. So why is Iron Bull so submissive to Vivienne it seems out of character for him....

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She reminds him of a Tamassran, so he responds to her the same way. It's adorable.


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Because someone thought it would be funny.

 

Some people do think it would be funny.

 

Me, I'm not one of those people.


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raging_monkey

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She reminds him of a Tamassran, so he responds to her the same way. It's adorable.

that and she intimadates him... and me tbh
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that and she intimadates him... and me tbh

 

Am I really the only one who is not the least bit intimidated by Vivienne?


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He actually comments on it, she reminds him of a Tamassran (because of the hat and attitude)


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raging_monkey

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Am I really the only one who is not the least bit intimidated by Vivienne?

no there are others but for me she reminds me of my ex so a bit of fear creeps in
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no there are others but for me she reminds me of my ex so a bit of fear creeps in

 

I see. My sympathies.


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Am I really the only one who is not the least bit intimidated by Vivienne?

 

Not at all.



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I see. My sympathies.

it wasnt all bad just had to be very gentleman at all times lol

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Ah Tamassran, I must've missed that part, ok that makes sense now lol.
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Not at all.

 

Good to know.



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Because it's adorable?
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Because it's adorable?

 

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It is :D

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Blackwall is kind of the same way with her. He seems like he strives to get her approval in almost every conversation.

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It is :D

 

I suppose it's a matter of opinion, because I don't see it.

 

 

Blackwall is kind of the same way with her. He seems like he strives to get her approval in almost every conversation.

 

He gets over that eventually.


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I was going to say, "because he's a switch?" but then everyone else had legit answers. :/


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Who wouldn't want Vivienne to step on them?










I- I mean... :ph34r:
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viveene probably reminds him of those qunari parent substitute things (can't remember their name.) Plus some people are just like that. They can manipulate easy.


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Blackwall is kind of the same way with her. He seems like he strives to get her approval in almost every conversation.

I don't think he tries to get her approval, per se. He's just super polite and she's horribly mean to him. He can get super defensive around her if she pushes him far enough.
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Am I really the only one who is not the least bit intimidated by Vivienne?

 

Same here. I think she is ridiculously overdressed, close minded, power hungry and manipulative. Not intimidating in nature. 

 

As for why Vivienne and Iron Bull have this dynamic...well...because Bioware wants to portray Vivienne as a strong woman and they had to do it by pussifying the alpha male Qunari in the group....


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From their conversations, it's clear that Iron Bull thinks Vivienne is a combination of a Saarebas, a Tamarassan, and a dreadnought. She actually likes the comparison.


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I agree with the ones saying Vivienne's power hungry- I respect her for being a mage who's gained such influence and power, but she's a snake in fancy clothing. She cares about the Inquisition only insofar as they have influence that will further her goals.

Iron Bull respects her authoritative tone and commanding presence because it reminds him of the mother figures he was provided with as a child, but if push came to shove he would totally take her down if the Inquisition needed him to.

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Same here. I think she is ridiculously overdressed, close minded, power hungry and manipulative. Not intimidating in nature. 

 

As for why Vivienne and Iron Bull have this dynamic...well...because Bioware wants to portray Vivienne as a strong woman and they had to do it by pussifying the alpha male Qunari in the group....

 

Even though the Qun has people like that and Vivienne reminds Bull of the Tamassran