They could solve this by leaping forward a century or two. DnD does that with its settings with each edition. And Elder Scrolls has picked it up.
They'd have a hard time with that, the series is called Dragon Age, which also refers to the current time setting. Theoretically it's possible but it's highly unlikely.
I'd have gone with Cassandra were it not for Leliana's plans to open the Chantry to non-human races. That seemed the most important policy of all, since what the Chantry desperately needs is more diversity.
I've always been pro-circle but to not give the templars this much power (because lets be honest, magic IS dangerous). So Vivienne's point of view is the best for me, but I screwed up and in my world Leliana rules the Chantry even when I supported Viv. But at the same time it bothered me a little that a mage would be the Divine, I guess people are not ready for this yet, though it would be great at some point.
Cassandra is too strict for me.
I'm all for Cassandra. Leliana is too liberal and doesn't give enough weight to the risks that uncontrolled magi pose to innocent people. Vivienne is too conservative, and her arrogance and ambition make her unfit for that office. Cassandra may lack subtlety, but she is honest, practical and true. Unlike the others, she is willing to listen and to compromise. She is the most likely of the three to make even a temporary peace.
Giselle just impressed me more. I tried to tell her that I could continue to do more good after the Inquisition (thats how my character thinks, not me). Giselle talked about how people should know when a cause is over. She talked about "putting your sword down" and this could be Bioware's not so subtle screed against standing militaries (I'm not sure) but I see it as much more applicable to other groups, movements, government programs, etc. When they've met their goal, they keep trying to find reasons to exist rather than moving on.
So +50 levels to Giselle.
Leiliana seemed like she would get most people killed if she was chosen.
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Cassandra is the best choice, in my opinion. And that is from someone who likes Leliana best out of three characters.
Vivienne is far too ambitious. Her wanting to be Divine is more about her own personal power and prestige than any sense of faith or duty. I'm not saying that Vivienne isn't an Andrastian or doesn't also have some strong political beliefs, just that faith and duty are not why she desires it. In fact she doesn't even come across as being particularly religious at all, unlike Leliana or Cassandra. Leliana and Cassandra also are far more motivated by a sense of duty to the realm or the Chantry than Vivienne is. Vivienne is also far too conservative. She basically wants to put things back to fairly close to how they were before the events of DA2, and admits that she'd crush all dissent in achieving it.
Leliana is far too radical. She wants to introduce too much change and too soon, which IMO could be dangerous. And particularly if she's been hardened, she's likely to be the Bhelen of Divines. She's probably going to leave a lot of bodies in her wake in enacting those radical changes. She is however more pious than Vivienne and doesn't seek the job out of personal ambition.
Cassandra seems the best suited for the job. She doesn't even really want the job (unlike Vivienne) but seeks it because she is motivated by a strong sense of duty. Like Leliana she's also fairly devout, whereas Vivienne seems fairly secular and wants the job for reasons that have little to do with interpreting and carrying out the Maker's Will. She's also neither as conservative as Vivienne or as liberal as Leliana. She's basically the moderate choice for Divine. She wants to enact some change unlike Vivienne, but without radically altering the Chantry or the state of the world like Leliana advocates.
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She basically wants to put things back to fairly close to how they were before the events of DA2, and admits that she'd crush all dissent in achieving it.
That's what's so great about her. I actually liked Dragon Age/Thedas before this mess. Now I don't.
I only signed on to restore order. Not change the world. The world already is changed. Like Flemeth said.. the world fears the inevitable plummet into the abyss. I certainly do. I want to get back on track.
here is a question how do you suppose we could see the impact of our decision in da4?
I go for Leliana even though Cassandra seem like the most safe and stable option. Sometimes swiftly changes is needed if the old way proven to be a failure.
And sometimes it's better to repair a broken system than to throw it away and get a new one.
here is a question how do you suppose we could see the impact of our decision in da4?
Talk out of Bioware is that DA4 is going to be moving the setting up north; Rivain, Tevinter, Seheron, and the Anderfels are all places I've heard name-dropped. Thing all those places have in common is that they're only tangentially connected to Thedas as we've experienced it, and a change in the Southern Chantry wouldn't have a huge impact up there, if it had an impact at all. Of course, it's impossible to say for certain without knowing when DA4 is going to take place as well as where.
I think that Bioware really dropped the ball with letting Mother Giselle's character just fade out after Haven. From all of my conversations with her in the first half of the game, I really thought that she was going to be in line for being the next Divine.
Anyways, I'm just curious, but when talking to Cassandra about who should be the next Divine, the Inquisitor can ask if he/she could be the next Divine. My Inquisitor at the time was a male human mage, and Cassandra told me that I can't be the Divine because I'm male. What are the other reasons she gives other Inquisitors? Because from that conversation, I see no reason for Cassandra to say that a female non-mage Trevelyan can't be the next Divine. I'm just curious as to what her reason would be for that case.
here is a question how do you suppose we could see the impact of our decision in da4?
Depends. Given the devs have stated they feel they've covered the south of thedas and the chantry enough, and want to move north means we'd probably get just a reference to the dealings of the south. Which is most likely why they gave us so many choices that alter southern thedas.
That's what's so great about her. I actually liked Dragon Age/Thedas before this mess. Now I don't.
I only signed on to restore order. Not change the world. The world already is changed. Like Flemeth said.. the world fears the inevitable plummet into the abyss. I certainly do. I want to get back on track.
But the world is better now than it was before. And the whole point of Flemeth's thing was that change is inevitable. You can fear it if you like, but running and hiding from it just leaves you vulnerable and accomplishes nothing.
Well, the real problem isn't even the whole change-is-inevitable thing, it's that the status quo is an abject failure. Reinstate it and it will fail again.
And southern Thedas will stew in stagnation until change is eventually forced upon them in the form of submission to the Qun.
Cass is exactly what I was hoping for. Meaningful reforms that correct the flaws of the old system while retaining it's strengths.
I like Leliana as a character, but hardened Lel is just way too far gone to ever be trustworthy as Divine. And the process of unhardening her requires the Inquisitor to sound like a moron, so....
The Iquisitor could just be against capital punishment. It would be an unusual position, but possible.
Cass is exactly what I was hoping for. Meaningful reforms that correct the flaws of the old system while retaining it's strengths.
I like Leliana as a character, but hardened Lel is just way too far gone to ever be trustworthy as Divine. And the process of unhardening her requires the Inquisitor to sound like a moron, so....
Hardly. It's better to capture a treacherous spy alive so you can interrogate him, and Leliana's scouts would never have survived the red templar attack.
I prefer Cassandra in the end, she seems the closest thing to a "compromise" type ending.
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I don't know why unhardening makes you sound like a moron. Leliana herself says she doesn't like what she does. The Inquisitor can respond: "If you don't like something, then it's a good sign you shouldn't do it." That's intelligent. Not moronic. To thine own self be true, and all that.
Leliana is awesome, if you choose her and dont make her a "End Justify the means" person she basically reenacts a less bloody version of what happens to the Catholic faith during renassance.
She allows all races to participate in the Chantry hierarchy, disbands the Circles (and make mages their own police), i would also guess Templars become obsolete then.
Naturally that fractures the chantry beyond hope (alot of people dont like those decisions) and it becomes essentially like protestant christianity, where you have small cults/sects that follow their own splint off view on the Chantry.
Leliana is also awesome enough to allow such cults to establish themselves, essentially ending the Chantry's influence as a political figure.
I actually loved that ending, i just wonder if we will be able to continue from there, i mean the Chantry as a powerful institution doesnt exist anymore in that canon, thats quite a big change.
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Leliana is awesome, if you choose her and dont make her a "End Justify the means" person she basically reenacts a less bloody version of what happens to the Catholic faith during renassance.
She allows all races to participate in the Chantry hierarchy, disbands the Circles (and make mages their own police), i would also guess Templars become obsolete then.
Naturally that fractures the chantry beyond hope (alot of people dont like those decisions) and it becomes essentially like protestant christianity, where you have small cults/sects that follow their own splint off view on the Chantry.
Leliana is also awesome enough to allow such cults to establish themselves, essentially ending the Chantry's influence as a political figure.
It isn't new. That's what it was like before the Chantry. And there are bound to be rampant mage hunting factions forming sooner or later. Different types of people after Andraste thought they had the answer. It was the Chantry and original Inquisition that brought order to this.
Protestantism wasn't a top-down situation though (unless you count CofE). If anything, looking for this road forward, it sort of makes more sense for Leliana to fill a Martin Luther role. Grow the new ideas among the clerics and lay people over time.
It also was pretty rocky. Protestants and Catholics spent a long time killing each other.
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