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[Xilizhra]

She doesn't deal in maybes. Only cold hard hyperbole.

Sounds good.

 

Of course, the guy in the letter was writing something about cleansing the disease of mages and such, so...

[raging_monkey]

Maybe, but the one who wrote the letter was.

its not maybe.
Xil you hate that pro-temps paint pro-mages as madmen you doing this in turn just gives them more clout

[thesuperdarkone2]

Sounds good.

 

Of course, the guy in the letter was writing something about cleansing the disease of mages and such, so...

Funny how nobody cares that he was using red lyrium to get stronger so he could kill mages, but that would ruin the whole "good templars killing evil mages" thing people seem to have. Funny how nobody cares that mages are forcibly seperated from their children and will likely never see them again or that children are taken from their families and likely never see them again.

[Br3admax]

She doesn't deal in maybes. Only cold hard hyperbole.

Which is more dangerous? I can't tell. Someone who says, "This father is an obvious bigot because he's trying to explain things a certain way to a child," sounds a lot worse to me. 

[Barquiel]

xil not every temp is murderous violating bigot. Most are just people trying to help

And most of these templars survive because they left the order before the whole red lyrium thing started. The rest had either a very poor judgement...or was indeed evil.

[Xilizhra]

Hey I'm just saying... Know what I'm saying?

 

I take the "all extremists suck" dialogue option before Giselle starts singing 'Change Gone Come'.

As did I.

[The Baconer]

Was that the letter in the Storm Coast RT Stronghold?

 

Yeah, that one hit me pretty hard too.

 

I find it more ironic than sad... in more ways than one, since he was definitely murdering people and helping cultivate the red stuff.

 

F***ing freak mutant.

[Br3admax]

Hey I'm just saying... Know what I'm saying?

 

I take the "all extremists suck" dialogue option before Giselle starts singing 'Change Gone Come'.

Sure, except the extremist in question doesn't think they're an extremist, and condemns anyone who disagrees with them, most often with utter destruction. That's pretty hypocritical. 

 

As did I.

The message you got from it, was probably a lot different than the message the rest of us gained from it. I believe I actually saw you speak on it earlier. The irony being you fall in line with the same fanatics, given even your signature asks for the utter destruction of the Templar Order. 

And most of these templars survive because the left the order before the whole red lyrium thing started. The rest had either a very poor judgement...or was indeed evil.

You know this is the same argument pro-Templars use against the rebel mages. How about that?

[raging_monkey]

And most of these templars survive because the left the order before the whole red lyrium thing started. The rest had either a very poor judgement...or was indeed evil.

was i excusing them? All im saying extreme v extreme just make it worse... and then a lyrium pie is thrown

[thesuperdarkone2]

Same **** happens to priestesses and occasionally Templars. Cullen was 13 when he joined and he was 'old'.

Difference is that Cullen could at least contact his family after becoming a templar and he apparently asked to join the templars while if a mage has a child in a Circle, it is taken away from them and they will never be allowed to raise or see their child again, and if a mage is taken away from a normal child, most of the time the mage will never see their regular family again. That is one of the reasons I will never support the templars.

[Xilizhra]

Sure, except the extremist in question doesn't think they're an extremist, and condemns anyone who disagrees with them, most often with utter destruction. That's pretty hypocritical.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think there are any options to outright attack and destroy templars who aren't attacking you first in the entire series.

 

 

The message you got from it, was probably a lot different than the message the rest of us gained from it. I believe I actually saw you speak on it earlier. The irony being you fall in line with the same fanatics, given even your signature asks for the utter destruction of the Templar Order.

"All this happened because of fanatics and arguments about the next world?" It seems fairly clear to me.

As for the signature... well, given that I actually achieved that goal, I should probably change it.

[Lady Luminous]

I'm still in haven on my second playthrough, but compared to the Mages at Redcliffe I just adored the story of the Templars at Therinfal Redoubt. And I thought the battle was better, even though

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yes, time travel is cool...

 

Plus!

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Extra time with Cole is never a bad thing!

[The Baconer]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think there are any options to outright attack and destroy templars who aren't attacking you first in the entire series.

 

Technically, Karras and those Templars who were harassing the Dalish in DA2...

[raging_monkey]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think there are any options to outright attack and destroy templars who aren't attacking you first in the entire series.
 
 

"All this happened because of fanatics and arguments about the next world?" It seems fairly clear to me.
As for the signature... well, given that I actually achieved that goal, I should probably change it.

technically you have templars in the inquisition.. just a thought

[Xilizhra]

Technically, Karras and those Templars who were harassing the Dalish in DA2...

Karras attacks first if you say you were trying to resolve things peacefully, which I did. As for the Dalish... true, I suppose, but in that case it's directly in defense of another.

 

 

technically you have templars in the inquisition.. just a thought

Ex-templars.

[Br3admax]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think there are any options to outright attack and destroy templars who aren't attacking you first in the entire series.

There are. Though the same could definitely be said of mages. It also doesn't change my point in the slightest. 

 

 

 

"All this happened because of fanatics and arguments about the next world?" It seems fairly clear to me.

As for the signature... well, given that I actually achieved that goal, I should probably change it.

You're a fanatic, which is the part that isn't clear to you. You also don't use it to justify the same things DarkKnight does, which is my point. As for your last statement, thanks for proving the point. The fact that you made a goal to destroy an entire organization over your disagreements is evidence enough. 

[thesuperdarkone2]

Technically, Karras and those Templars who were harassing the Dalish in DA2...

It wasn't Karras but another Templar who said they were willing to kill the Dalish to get Feynriel.

[Xilizhra]

You're a fanatic, which is the part that isn't clear to you. You also don't use it to justify the same things DarkKnight does, which is my point. As for your last statement, thanks for proving the point. The fact that you made a goal to destroy an entire organization over your disagreements is evidence enough. 

Ah, but it wasn't an IC goal. Merely a hope about a video game future.

[herkles]

I am curious xill, assuming we go to tevinter in da4 and I hope that we do. What would your goals be there?

[Sir DeLoria]

Oh god, the children argument.

Let's just say, that the Circle are doing both the child and parent a favor by taking in mage children, because:


- It's very likely that with all the wars, famines and diseases going on, the Circle is one of the safest places in Thedas.

- If the child's magic is discovered what's to stop a mob of peasants from just lynching it? Most of Thedas deeply reviles and fears magic after all.

- If the child isn't trained properly, it can be posessed or make a deal with a demon. Connor was almost responsible for the destruction of Redcliffe.


Yes, a mage parent could train, raise and protect a mage child, but how many mage children actually have mage children?

[raging_monkey]

Karras attacks first if you say you were trying to resolve things peacefully, which I did. As for the Dalish... true, I suppose, but in that case it's directly in defense of another.
 
 

Ex-templars.

still temps just without the fancy armor

[RobRam10]

Oh god, the children argument.

Let's just say, that the Circle are doing both the child and parent a favor by taking in mage children, because:

- It's very likely that with all the wars, famines and diseases going on, the Circle is one of the safest places in Thedas.

- If the child's magic is discovered what's to stop a mob of peasants from just lynching it? Most of Thedas deeply reviles and fears magic after all.

- If the child isn't trained properly, it can be posessed or make a deal with a demon. Connor was almost responsible for the destruction of Redcliffe.

Yes, a mage parent could train, raise and protect a mage child, but how many mage children actually have mage children?

DeLoria no one wants to hear your heresy!