Honestly, if you're up against an endless army of demons... aren't the guys who are trained to fight demons, and even have special abilities to help them do so, a better choice than a collection of mages with varying degrees of combat training?
Templars do not have any abilities that mages do not have. Also most templars have never seen a demon in their life, not like abominations blossomed in the circles every Friday, it was a very rare occasion.
true lets amp a unknown power XD
That's what she said.
treat em like animal big shock they become animals XD
Gosh, it's not like I had a lot of sympathy for the mage rebellion until they decided to pull crap off like betraying the people who gave them shelter.
Know who I feel sorry for? All the children they sold to Tevinter. But they don't matter because they don't have magical powers. Yep, They deserve it for being "normal" whatever that means. I feel sorry for the Tranquil they let butcher by the thousands. Sure there are more of them, but that won't stop you from endorsing "freedom." It's much better to kill all the normal people off anyway. Then there will be only mages, and everyone won't be afraid anymore.
How good am I getting at this?
Mages come first when it comes to mage's issues. If it is between the mages proteciton or everyone elses, the right course of action is to place the infeior people(mundanes/non-mages) in fear of the mages because the mages have power. It is only right, it is only natural that mages rule.
*above is slightly tongue in cheek*
Honestly, if you're up against an endless army of demons... aren't the guys who are trained to fight demons, and even have special abilities to help them do so, a better choice than a collection of mages with varying degrees of combat training?
also keep in mind the risk of possission and abominations. while it doesn't happen, it is always a risk. even tevinter has safeguards against it.
Neither have many mages, of course, but templars are trained specifically in case of crap like demons running rampant. With neither having much experience, the templars will be better. If you need magic dispelled, if you need a demon's power negated, you want a templar, who was instructed in such matters. The mages have a variety of people who range from "probably know how to dispel" to scholarly "never dreamed of fighting in their life" to "fire magic is cool, well time to fight the Rage Demon".Templars do not have any abilities that mages do not have. Also most templars have never seen a demon in their life, not like abominations blossomed in the circles every Friday, it was a very rare occasion.
relax im teasing lolGosh, it's not like I had a lot of sympathy for the mage rebellion until they decided to pull crap off like betraying the people who gave them shelter.
yeah she did XDThat's what she said.
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Neither have many mages, of course, but templars are trained specifically in case of crap like demons running rampant. With neither having much experience, the templars will be better. If you need magic dispelled, if you need a demon's power negated, you want a templar, who was instructed in such matters. The mages have a variety of people who range from "probably know how to dispel" to scholarly "never dreamed of fighting in their life" to "fire magic is cool, well time to fight the Rage Demon".
True. I think if mages do have comparable abilities, it's mostly in the Spirit school, isn't it?
yeah ive noticed that spirit spell and templar spell have similar effectsTrue. I think if mages do have comparable abilities, it's mostly in the Spirit school, isn't it?
yeah ive noticed that spirit spell and templar spell have similar effects
Similar? It's exactly the same thing.
Neither have many mages, of course, but templars are trained specifically in case of crap like demons running rampant. With neither having much experience, the templars will be better. If you need magic dispelled, if you need a demon's power negated, you want a templar, who was instructed in such matters. The mages have a variety of people who range from "probably know how to dispel" to scholarly "never dreamed of fighting in their life" to "fire magic is cool, well time to fight the Rage Demon".
Perhaps, but hey, fire magic is cool. 
mages drain mana,Similar? It's exactly the same thing.
mages drain mana,
temps **** with the natrual flow of things.(makes my skin crawl just thinking about it)
Both can do "bursts of raw energy"
Similar but not truly the same
Mages can do spells shields, dispel magic, place anti-magic wards, drain mana and cleanse mana.
Templars are the same thing as mages only more limited, since they don't have natural mana, they only use lyrium. Only arguably when they drill the crap out of themselves in a single discipline they can become better at it than MOST mages, that also have a life at the circle ) even if not very colorful.
1) None of those children are in the Rebellion. Seriously. The children with them stayed with the loyalist afterwards, for all we know. 2)A sizeable number of mages joined the Inquisition even without Fiona. Guess those don't matter though. They aren't killing their own yet.
3) Except killing mage children is not required, but nice strawman. I happened to have spared the Circle in Ferelden and prevented Meredith from killing surrendering mages in Dragon Age 2. 4) You do have a nice way of putting things, though. I've never seen so many charged words this early in a conversation.
Good things siding with the Templars has nothing to do with killing mages. Not mages that don't attack me first anyway. I'm not going to fight for something just because they pout enough.
5) Know who I feel sorry for? All the children they sold to Tevinter. But they don't matter because they don't have magical powers. Yep, They deserve it for being "normal" whatever that means. I feel sorry for the Tranquil they let butcher by the thousands. Sure there are more of them, but that won't stop you from endorsing "freedom." It's much better to kill all the normal people off anyway. Then there will be only mages, and everyone won't be afraid anymore.
How good am I getting at this?
I can't figure out to gracefully break-up your fisking of my post to counter-fisk it, so I have just numbered things.
1) None of those children are in the Rebellion? You sure? You admit you don't know. I think it'd be super-weird if there weren't any young'uns around.
2) When did I say those mages don't matter? I think they're totally cool, like the Templars who join up, as well.
3) I admit, I'm not that familiar with Templar paths in the past games. I knew that you could commit some absolutely over-the-top atrocities when siding with the Templars. (and you could also keep Anders alive and endorse his terrorism if you're pro-mage, which I never did) I like that Inquisition gives players fewer opportunities to be gratuitously evil than past games. I know some will decry the lack of "role-playing" opportunities, but I am not one such person.
4) Nothing personal, it's just the way Bioware has designed these scenarios. I tried to keep it balanced by admitting that pro-mage people can pull some nonsense as well. (although, again, thankfully they've toned in down this game)
5) Am I a hastily erased elementary school chalkboard? Because you are projecting on to me. (great metaphor) I'm not a Tevinter apologist; I think those people are weird. Anyway, hardly uncommon for people on any side in a civil war to take aid from some completely unsavory characters. Spanish Republicans took it from the Soviet Union, American Revolutionaries from absolute-monarchy France. Maybe doing that was completely unjustifiable. I know for sure I am not going to get into a protracted multi-page argument about this. I probably shouldn't have even waded into a mage/Templar debate! Soul-destroying, all of these things.
Anyway, yes, mages are more dangerous than non-mages. Men kill vastly more often than women, too. (maybe not in Thedas?) I'm broadly in favor of "freedom" for all groups mentioned, and I don't think the Circle system is as good as Thedas can hope for mage-wise any more than I think absolute monarchies with some power for clerics (most of Thedas) or single-party revolutionary socialistwhatever states (Par Vollen) are the best Thedas can hope for in terms of government. I have hope one day a liberal, democratic order will arise in Thedas. Anyway, to quote myself from last paragraph:
I know for sure I am not going to get into a protracted multi-page argument about this. I probably shouldn't have even waded into a mage/Templar debate! Soul-destroying, all of these things.
But every Rebel did most certainly willingly join the Venatori.
No they didn't. That'd be like saying every Templar willingly consented to quaffing Red Lyrium.
I'm gonna split my playthroughs, but my canon is going to be a mage that sides with mages
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My mage sought the aid of the Templars. 
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Mages can do spells shields, dispel magic, place anti-magic wards, drain mana and cleanse mana.
Templars are the same thing as mages only more limited, since they don't have natural mana, they only use lyrium. Only arguably when they drill the crap out of themselves in a single discipline they can become better at it than MOST mages, that also have a life at the circle ) even if not very colorful.
The point is that not all mages learn these schools. They require dedication. While the Templars are dedicated to nothing but that.
fair pointMages can do spells shields, dispel magic, place anti-magic wards, drain mana and cleanse mana.
Templars are the same thing as mages only more limited, since they don't have natural mana, they only use lyrium. Only arguably when they drill the crap out of themselves in a single discipline they can become better at it than MOST mages, that also have a life at the circle ) even if not very colorful.
What is the ratio of Templars to mages, or perhaps more importantly, of Templars to highly skilled/knowledgeable mages? The writers probably (wisely) keep that vague.
The point is that not all mages learn these schools. They require dedication. While the Templars are dedicated to nothing but that.
What did I just write?? YES, that's what I said.
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What is the ratio of Templars to mages, or perhaps more importantly, of Templars to highly skilled/knowledgeable mages? The writers probably (wisely) keep that vague.
Even highly skilled mages need to specialize in schools. Wynne was mostly a creation mage (if you auto'ed or got her at high level). And not all mages have a ton of points like our Wardens did 
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What did I just write?? YES, that's what I said.
You did? I read that you said mages are capable of it. Which is half right.
I'm only clarifying that some specialized mages can actually do it. While Templars are nothing but specialists.
viv claims temp out number magi 100/1 including "battlemages"What is the ratio of Templars to mages, or perhaps more importantly, of Templars to highly skilled/knowledgeable mages? The writers probably (wisely) keep that vague.
You did? I read that you said mages are capable of it. Which is half right.
I'm only clarifying that some specialized mages can actually do it. While Templars are nothing but specialists.
Basically:
Specialized mage => Templar => other mages.
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