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#851
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he has been evicted...so....

Not before Alexius' arrival. In the timeline before that, we can see he wasn't doing anything about the apostate/templar fighting happening elsewhere in the Hinterlands.



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Not before Alexius' arrival. In the timeline before that, we can see he wasn't doing anything about the apostate/templar fighting happening elsewhere in the Hinterlands.

me might have been unable to do so.  Redcliffe is cut of by the fighting so sending out messengers isn't possible, or he may already be gathering said forces but was evicted before they could fully muster



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They just up and leave suddenly according to Dorian

 

Strange. The processes of recruiting the Templars should take longer than getting the mages... Especially if one has already been to Redcliffe and met Alexius. I wonder what the factor is that makes the ruler(s) of Fereldan arrive when they do in the mage path.



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me might have been unable to do so.  Redcliffe is cut of by the fighting so sending out messengers isn't possible, or he may already be gathering said forces but was evicted before they could fully muster

Which would both be reasons why Teagan would also be unable to protect the mages in Redcliffe, and why Fiona felt she needed Alexius' help.



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Which would both be reasons why Teagan would also be unable to protect the mages in Redcliffe, and why Fiona felt she needed Alexius' help.

so why rely on Teagan?  Why not go straight to Denerim?



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I do wonder why would Fiona go to fereldan, when the base of operations for the circle was in Nevarra? 



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I like to imagine that teagan went right away to the capital to gather the army. It is why shortly after you deal with alexius that the army with the monarch(s) arrive.

Yeah, that is exactly what he did. I think one of your advisors informs of that.

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I do wonder why would Fiona go to fereldan, when the base of operations for the circle was in Nevarra?

the cinclave was in feredeldan so its easier to stay and x monarch gives consent to stay

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I do wonder why would Fiona go to fereldan, when the base of operations for the circle was in Nevarra? 

 

Alistair, who happens to be her long lost son, having a soft spot for magic and declaring mages outside of the Circles under his sovereign protection. In other world states I'm stumped.

 

Edit: And the Conclave.



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so why rely on Teagan?  Why not go straight to Denerim?

If the templar attack was imminent, it'd take far too long for Alistair's forces to make it halfway across Ferelden to Redcliffe.



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I choooooose Sandwitch.


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I can see why time travel is frowned upon confusing mess it makes... still love it though

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One would think that it would be the job of the Fereldan army to, you know, control the rampaging apostates and templars in the Hinterlands in general... assuming, of course, that it had any presence in the Hinterlands at all. Which it fairly obviously does not; the only organized military there is the Inquisition. Where Ferelden's army is, exactly, is unknown, but it certainly wasn't anywhere close enough to Redcliffe to protect it from a templar attack.

Ignoring the fact that there is no "Fereldan Army", even if there were, it would take months to organize it and march out. But, as I said, Ferelden does not have a professional army, but instead relies on levies and conscripts from the disparate nobles in Ferelden. This also means that each noble is expected to protect his own domains, meaning that the Hinterlands was mainly a concern of the Arl of Redcliffe, the neighboring nobles wouldn't interfere unless they stood to gain land from it.


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I can see why time travel is frowned upon confusing mess it makes... still love it though

I like time travel in certain areas, Ie i am a fan of doctor who, but not in others. 

 

Ignoring the fact that there is no "Fereldan Army", even if there were, it would take months to organize it and march out. But, as I said, Ferelden does not have a professional army, but instead relies on levies and conscripts from the disparate nobles in Ferelden. This also means that each noble is expected to protect his own domains, meaning that the Hinterlands was mainly a concern of the Arl of Redcliffe, the neighboring nobles wouldn't interfere unless they stood to gain land from it.

This.

 

This is you know the downside to Feudalism.



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If the templar attack was imminent, it'd take far too long for Alistair's forces to make it halfway across Ferelden to Redcliffe.

but we have no inclination that she made the effort, or had reason to believe an attack was imminent



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That elderly mage in the tavern who doesn't like Tevinter tells us that the magister's arrival was a stroke of luck because they were bracing for the templars to attack at that moment.

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I like time travel in certain areas, Ie i am a fan of doctor who, but not in others. 
 

This.
 
This is you know the downside to Feudalism.

i like the fact its in da personally but when we break it down my head hurts XD

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but we have no inclination that she made the effort, or had reason to believe an attack was imminent

 

Yes we do. A few people, including Fiona and Alexius themselves, remark on how convenient Tevinter's arrival was in the face of a possible attack.



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Yes we do. A few people, including Fiona and Alexius themselves, remark on how convenient Tevinter's arrival was in the face of a possible attack.

"possible"...



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They were under threat, but we ahve been going through the area and saw that the templars had withdrawn to Therinfall from val Royeaux, but I will amend my statement

 

"We have no reason to believe an attack is imminent outside of normal paranoia during war time"


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If your best sources of evidence are Alexius and Fiona, that's questionable at best, especially since there is no evidence that the Templars are remotely close to Redcliffe. Only the mages have actually shown the intelligence required to think all out war with Ferelden is preferable to just waiting it out. 



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Seriously though, just so many holes with the Mage quest. I know that the Breach changes rules therefore time travel but... I'm more surprised why Cassandra or the Inquisitor didn't question why Fiona was twenty feet away from the Lord Seerker when their respective factions were at war. As far as morale (and morale alone) killing or capturing Fiona would have been a huge victory for the Templars and a major blow to the mages (though probably better for them in the long run).



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Why would they bring it up, when Solas does it for them? "Because it's important."



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They were under threat, but we ahve been going through the area and saw that the templars had withdrawn to Therinfall from val Royeaux, but I will amend my statement

 

Alexius used time magic to appear directly after the Conclave, meaning it would have been before the withdrawal to Therinfal was even called, let alone the regrouping at Val Royeaux.

 

As much of a loathsome pustule as Fiona is, selling herself and the mages into slavery to a magister who just happened to walk by just because is beyond OOC, given her origins.



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Why would they bring it up, when Solas does it for them? "Because it's important."

 

Seriously though... That's it? LMAO

 

Couldn't she have approached the Inquisition at Haven or something?

 

"Hey, I'm the super important person that represents my side in a war. Let me go to the capital city where I'm most reviled at the exact same time all of the leaders of my enemy faction are there - alone. They'll never expect it."