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[Colonelkillabee]

Sera said it best. Neither. **** them both.

[Enesia]

I wish there was an option to get the Templars to aid in the Redcliffe mages, or something like that and be able to do both the Mages and Templars quest. But nooooo. Only one or the other.

[raging_monkey]

I wish there was an option to get the Templars to aid in the Redcliffe mages, or something like that and be able to do both the Mages and Templars quest. But nooooo. Only one or the other.

gaider really hated the geth/qurian peace deal thats the main reason but it fits the lore

[Artillis22]

So after playing a couple games were i did templars on one and mages one one i have to say the mage one was best, freeing the templars seemed holo to me because you still ended up dealing with red templars through out the game.  I was half expecting to deal with red mages instead of red templars when i freed the templars, but nope not the case.  Freeing the mages was more interesting story wise overall in my opinion. 

[Efvie]

I don't give a  damn about killing Alistair's mother, and as a matter of the fact the Inquisitor doesn't know she was Alistair's mom, and even if the Inquisitor knew there is no reason to stop the Inquisitor from killing Fiona. You're metagaming then if you're going to side with the Mages, and spare Fiona because she was Alistair's mom, the Inquisitor doesn't know that, hell even Alistair doesn't know that. I couldn't care less if she was Alistair's mom anyway.

 

Leliana knows.

[Lady Artifice]

I don't give a  damn about killing Alistair's mother, and as a matter of the fact the Inquisitor doesn't know she was Alistair's mom, and even if the Inquisitor knew there is no reason to stop the Inquisitor from killing Fiona. You're metagaming then if you're going to side with the Mages, and spare Fiona because she was Alistair's mom, the Inquisitor doesn't know that, hell even Alistair doesn't know that. I couldn't care less if she was Alistair's mom anyway.

 

 

Hey, Aeducan. Do you care that Fiona is Alistair's Mom? 

[Hazegurl]

I find it funny that I killed both Alistair and his mom. At least they can meet each other by the Maker's side. lol!

[MisterJB]

Alistair's mom is a ******,
she's a big magic ******,
she's the biggest ****** in the whole wide world
She's a stupid ******,
If there ever was a ******,
She's a ****** to all the boys and girls.

[Dean_the_Young]

I know they won't pull another "inquisition", but that more or less solves Orlais' corruptasfuck problem (depending on choices) without Orlais falling.

 

I'd find it interesting (and amusing) if a Tevinter arc balanced two or three different points of reform against eachother in a zero-sum scenario- a case of where no matter what the player does, in the process of siding with one reform another loses out.

 

What would you pick in a trade-off between, say, a democratic reform of the magesterium ('one mage, one vote!') or the abolishment of the foreign slave trade abroad (with all the costs and burdens to the economy and war effort associated with ending the dependence)?

 

The typical answer would obviously be slavery, but provide some Bioware writing to give context and different moral justifications for each...

[Treacherous J Slither]

I'd find it interesting (and amusing) if a Tevinter arc balanced two or three different points of reform against eachother in a zero-sum scenario- a case of where no matter what the player does, in the process of siding with one reform another loses out.

 

What would you pick in a trade-off between, say, a democratic reform of the magesterium ('one mage, one vote!') or the abolishment of the foreign slave trade abroad (with all the costs and burdens to the economy and war effort associated with ending the dependence)?

 

The typical answer would obviously be slavery, but provide some Bioware writing to give context and different moral justifications for each...

 

Ending slavery will always win out. There is no superior alternative. I can't imagine one anyway.

[Warden Commander Aeducan]

Leliana knows.

And how's that make me want to spare Fiona when she attacking me at Haven.

 

Hey, Aeducan. Do you care that Fiona is Alistair's Mom? 

[Colonelkillabee]

I'd find it interesting (and amusing) if a Tevinter arc balanced two or three different points of reform against eachother in a zero-sum scenario- a case of where no matter what the player does, in the process of siding with one reform another loses out.

 

What would you pick in a trade-off between, say, a democratic reform of the magesterium ('one mage, one vote!') or the abolishment of the foreign slave trade abroad (with all the costs and burdens to the economy and war effort associated with ending the dependence)?

 

The typical answer would obviously be slavery, but provide some Bioware writing to give context and different moral justifications for each...

Democracy's not as great as people think. It's not something that would work for everyone, especially in this setting. Slavery abolishment easily. No brainer.

Hell, we in the US don't even have a real democracy, we have a representative democracy, so evidently we don't really think much of the idea ourselves.

[Corbinus]

So after playing a couple games were i did templars on one and mages one one i have to say the mage one was best, freeing the templars seemed holo to me because you still ended up dealing with red templars through out the game.  I was half expecting to deal with red mages instead of red templars when i freed the templars, but nope not the case.

Seriously? I kinda thought saving templars prevents Red ones from appearing and replaces them with Red mages or venatori troops or something. I wondered what will happen in Emprise since templars won't mine red lirium there. So I will have to deal with them anyway? Screw the templars, then.

 

Besides Fiona + Divine Leliana equals free and respected mages. Does templars have any good ending?

[Ranadiel Marius]

I wish there was an option to get the Templars to aid in the Redcliffe mages, or something like that and be able to do both the Mages and Templars quest. But nooooo. Only one or the other.

I rationalize the situation as my character, on the way back from recruiting the Templars, swung by Redcliffe with a small squad of templars to use to beat the fudge out of the Tevinter goons, but by the time we got there the mages had already left so were just out of luck due to travel times.

 

 

Seriously? I kinda thought saving templars prevents Red ones from appearing and replaces them with Red mages or venatori troops or something. I wondered what will happen in Emprise since templars won't mine red lirium there. So I will have to deal with them anyway? Screw the templars, then.

 

Besides Fiona + Divine Leliana equals free and respected mages. Does templars have any good ending?

They have good endings, but it all depends on your definition of good.

[Boost32]

Seriously? I kinda thought saving templars prevents Red ones from appearing and replaces them with Red mages or venatori troops or something. I wondered what will happen in Emprise since templars won't mine red lirium there. So I will have to deal with them anyway? Screw the templars, then.
 
Besides Fiona + Divine Leliana equals free and respected mages. Does templars have any good ending?

Yes they have, all the templars decided by unanimous decision to stay in the Inquisition, to me its the best ending.

[dragonflight288]

 

 

So no i don't believe i'm wrong, i believe you are overstating having the Dwarves undergrounds importance.

 

Fair enough, but it does show that they are holding the darkspawn back right there, and it also shows the Grey Wardens need. The Grey Wardens vanish because they all think they're going through the Calling, and in the areas the Grey Wardens abandoned we have darkspawn on the surface. 

 

The darkspawn are advancing constantly, they simply aren't organized except during blights. 

 

But even without the darkspawn, dwarves are the only ones who can relatively safely mine lyrium. Without them, there would be no templars, mages wouldn't have something to boost their power in rituals, except for blood magic, and there wouldn't be any enchanting either. Or any Grey Wardens at all because the Joining itself requires lyrium. 

 

Even if the dwarves are dismissed on the front of importance for holding back the darkspawn, they are still directly responsible for the amount of templars there can be at any given time by selling lyrium to the surface, how much lyrium circle's have at their disposal, whether Grey Wardens can even exist or not, so the dwarves do play a role of great importance. 

 

Now that I've safely sidetracked the entire point of this thread, I'll stop now. Umm, dwarves help make templars, so there wouldn't even be a mage/templar issue without them. Go dwarves. 

[dragonflight288]

I'd find it interesting (and amusing) if a Tevinter arc balanced two or three different points of reform against eachother in a zero-sum scenario- a case of where no matter what the player does, in the process of siding with one reform another loses out.

 

What would you pick in a trade-off between, say, a democratic reform of the magesterium ('one mage, one vote!') or the abolishment of the foreign slave trade abroad (with all the costs and burdens to the economy and war effort associated with ending the dependence)?

 

The typical answer would obviously be slavery, but provide some Bioware writing to give context and different moral justifications for each...

 

It would probably be more interesting if we had to choose between ending slavery and bringing in templars who could negate magic, and thus put a check on the magisterium's power and keep them from abusing it too much. 

[Milan92]

But let's say we manage to abolish slavery. What would happen with all those slaves? Where would they live?

 

Most will probably end in poverty.

 

Which then raises the interesting question Dorian asked; Is inescapable poverty truly beter than beign a slave?

[raging_monkey]

But let's say we manage to abolish slavery. What would happen with all those slaves? Where would they live?
 
Most will probably end in poverty.
 
Which then raises the interesting question Dorian asked; Is inescapable poverty truly beter than beign a slave?

lol this

[Goldarmy]

Ending slavery will always win out. There is no superior alternative. I can't imagine one anyway.

And not just for moral reasons. Abolishing slavery makes the path to industrialization a bit more easier.

[herkles]

And not just for moral reasons. Abolishing slavery makes the path to industrialization a bit more easier.

my rp character in the tevinter thread views slavery as something that makes the empire soft. She doesn't care about morality, she just thinks it is a practice that makes the empire weaker; though she generally doesn't voice her complaints that often since well it would make her loose her postion

 

I do know a few people who think Tevinter is fine as it is and that removing slavery would ruin what Tevinter is. To which I kind of agree, as it is the evil empire, a rather interesting empire though.

[PorcelynDoll]

I like the Templars best this time around. I think their quests are better plus Teagan gives me a mine and you get super awesome Ser Barris. Plus I only like Dorian if I meet him at Haven's gate. I tried the Mages and I found he was obnoxious and didn't take the situation seriously. The first thing he did was insult Fereldan, my precious Bann Teagan's home, dogs and wolves all in one sentace. So I went back in time (reloaded a save) and chose the templars and I haven't looked back.

[Br3admax]

African Americans endured slavery and bigotry, they struggled through poverty and overcame it. If your only choice is either die a slave or die free( in poverty ) I think most would choose freedom.

Ugh, where to even begin....