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Is it me or are medium-high level staves *exceptionally* rare? Regardless of quality


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Phentos

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As the title says, is it just my horrid luck? (have yet to get an ilevel 10+ staff, not even a common)

 

I've gotten a couple of uniques, an ilevel 10 greataxe and an ilevel 16 dagger from chests. The only staves I get are ilevel 1-6. My mages are in dire need for upgrades XD.

 

With that said, I have prestiged once (only have about 40 hours into MP), and I still get mostly low-mid level stuff. I do threatening runs every time, unless I have a character to level up to ~10. Have yet to try Perilous (lack of high level weapons).

 

tl;dr... Are high level staves unusually rare, and when do I start getting higher level items from chests? 

 

 



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IamTheAttack

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Just bad rng dude! I am rank 256 and i ve got tons of blue staff lvl 22/23 rare (lots of duplicate). Beside that, i am still sticking with common dagger and common 1handed weapon. In fact, after more thank 400K gold spend, i ve never dropped a rare/unique one handed above lvl 15   :)


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Just bad rng dude! I am rank 256 and i ve got tons of blue staff lvl 22/23 rare (lots of duplicate). Beside that, i am still sticking with common dagger and common 1handed weapon. In fact, after more thank 400K gold spend, i ve never dropped a rare/unique one handed above lvl 15   :)

 

Almost the exact opposite. I seem to get one/two handers far more often than decent staves. 



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It almost seems as though the class you are playing is intentionally trolled by chests/ the store, so Archers always get staves and dual wield daggers while Mages get two-handed weapons and bows, etc. However I am sure this is just a "perception-filter".

I had the same issue until last night, when I finally got a level 16 common staff. I almost lost it, as I have been playing for about the same amount of time as you, Phentos, although admittedly mostly on Routine, so far less efficiently gold-wise. However, when I asked my friends who are playing other classes whether they had any staves with better stats, they did not. This leads me to believe that while RNG is RNG, that perhaps there is a smaller pool of staves than other weapons in the total inventory possible and so they generate less frequently?

Also the damage on staves does not seem to vary as much between levels as it does on other weapon-types. Maybe this was done intentionally to keep Mages from being able to Super Nuke everything at low levels if they did happen to get a level 23 purple staff in their first chest.

Just pure speculation on my part, but in the absence of statistical data... A boy can speculate, can't he? ;)

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I have exceptional difficulty getting any weapons above item level 6. I know it's all supposed to be RNG and stuff and I can handle rare and unique stuff being, well, rare and unique, but when you roll a 20 sided die 100 times and only roll above 5 about half a dozen times, you start to suspect the die is loaded.

 

This wouldn't be much of an issue if your survival in MP weren't so dependant on the damage of your weapon. Kinda sucks trying to take down an enemy with several thousand health and the most you can hit him for is 100-200 with an ability or less with normal attacks.



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simpatikool

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I primarily play Warrior and Mage. I seem to have every flipping purple dagger in existence. But, the best staff I have is a common grey with 96 DPS. Sad.



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I would gladly trade my level 20 unique staff of the void for the level 23 unique 2-handed greatsword.

 

The staff is sick, esp on an Arcane Warrior.  It has a 10% chance of proc'ing walking fortress for 2 seconds.  Spirit Blades will Proc the Walking Fortress.  Like the Arcane Warrior needed anymore protection.  


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gravemind_z

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Just bad rng dude! I am rank 256 and i ve got tons of blue staff lvl 22/23 rare (lots of duplicate). Beside that, i am still sticking with common dagger and common 1handed weapon. In fact, after more thank 400K gold spend, i ve never dropped a rare/unique one handed above lvl 15   :)

I'm at 206 and got Evanura in my 5th chest back at prestige lvl 4, still have only rng'd 1 nice staff.



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Staffs in general are rare as ****, I'm constantly out of cloth to craft while sporting ridiculous amounts of metal/leather



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So I'm a staff user, looking for lvl 22+ rare or better. Have lvl 21 Rare (Staff of the Dynamo) and lvl 21 common (Archon Fire Staff).

Since I found those two, I've opened about 50 chests (ok more like 30) and found tons of lvl 22 rare gear, but no staff.

I also have a stack of 30 superb runes... only one of which can be used on a staff. I'm saving it for that better staff out there... XD

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Spirit runes are also extremely rare. I've only gotten two in about 30 hrs of playtime. Fire runes, on the other hand, are popping out like crazy.

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Geth Supremacy

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I've played a bit and I've bought a lot of boxes....have some pretty nice stuff.  I still use a white staff........(its pretty good to be fair....but still)

 

I've never even got a blue or purp one worth equipping on a character.



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Iandayen1

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As far as what i have seen, the highest purple staff is lvl 21, and the lvl 20 is the best. I have gotten 2 of them, walking fortress procs are awesome.

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If this this spreadsheet is comprehensive(which it likely isn't yet granted, but it's almost there) we've got something around 50 bows, 70 daggers, 50 1H weapons, 50 2H weapons, and 45 staves(not to mention mods, runes, shields, etc.) not only do staves have the fewest weapons(far as we can tell), they're the only weapon that covers an entire class. If you need leather and bows aren't dropping you might get a dagger, if you need swords aren't dropping you might get a greatsword or a shield. If you need clothe and staves aren't dropping for you, well you're SoL.
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Ixxa

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The above spreadsheet can't be very updated, it's lacking many things like Mhemet's War Hammer (just lvl 19 unique 2h but I enjoy using it, have gotten like 6), Purity's Light (must be the most common OK-ish blue staff, I must've salvaged a dozen but I prefer my FotV). Who is the maintainer and how can we get access privileges?



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Tielis

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I keep getting blue and purple staves that are nowhere near as good as my level 20 grey one.  :(



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ChaosBlades

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Staves and bows for me. Never get any blues above level 7. Been using level 20-23 common bows and staves for a long time now.

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although admittedly mostly on Routine, so far less efficiently gold-wise.

OT here, but actually it is not that far off efficient gold-wise, but it's quite far off being efficient xp-wise.

I think I got Staff of the void on prestige 50-something. Its not the one I'm using...

I guess RNG gods favor me.



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GourdTwitch

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As the title says, is it just my horrid luck? (have yet to get an ilevel 10+ staff, not even a common)

 

I've gotten a couple of uniques, an ilevel 10 greataxe and an ilevel 16 dagger from chests. The only staves I get are ilevel 1-6. My mages are in dire need for upgrades XD.

 

With that said, I have prestiged once (only have about 40 hours into MP), and I still get mostly low-mid level stuff. I do threatening runs every time, unless I have a character to level up to ~10. Have yet to try Perilous (lack of high level weapons).

 

tl;dr... Are high level staves unusually rare, and when do I start getting higher level items from chests? 

 

The highest basic whites appear to be 53 damage. They are "Seer" and "Battlemage" They're all you need, once modded. Get the max attack% you can and a purple spirit rune on one.

 

This isn't Diablo, or WoW. The loot isn't random, it's the same for everybody and nothing is "rolled." The term "ilevel" shouldn't be used. 



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GourdTwitch

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So I'm a staff user, looking for lvl 22+ rare or better. Have lvl 21 Rare (Staff of the Dynamo) and lvl 21 common (Archon Fire Staff).

Since I found those two, I've opened about 50 chests (ok more like 30) and found tons of lvl 22 rare gear, but no staff.

I also have a stack of 30 superb runes... only one of which can be used on a staff. I'm saving it for that better staff out there... XD

 

You should be harvesting duplicate and redundant runes for cloth. They can generate the rare tier 2 and 3 cloth mats. Don't use these for armor.

 

Just keep enough to mod up any major improvement over your current weapons. So maybe a pair at each tier and dissolve all below Master once you've got those in each element.