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[Ieldra]

I read the descriptions and then decide based on what suits my interest best or seems most likely to have a desirable outcome.

 

For instance, in one mission I chose Cullen (who wanted to sent soldiers in) because Leliana said she could use her scout for delaying tactics but it was a risk - and avoided a personal disaster some others have been getting. 

 

In another mission, I could influence the succession of a noble house, one of the candidates was a Chantry puppet and my advisors supported different candidates. I chose the one who made the Chantry puppet rescind her claim. Really neat, she retreated to a cloister, the other one came to rule, everyone was happy, and I had my desired outcome.

 

So....I find the war table operations a great roleplaying tool. Where the outcome doesn't appear to matter I choose for style - I prefer Secrets to Diplomacy to Force with my current Inquisitor - and otherwise I try to be smart about things.

 

Leliana's shoes recommendation was obviously a half-joking reference to her obsession with footwear in DAO (it made me chuckle, so it worked), but at the same time not altogether stupid. Good or bad footwear can have an impact on morale. I usually choose Cullen for that one though, thinking he's got better insight into the current state of our troops and what they need most.

 

I may add that the war table operations work like mini-quests for me, and work much better in that capacity than many of the quests I tend to personally, because as the Inquisitor I don't have an interest in doing many of the sidequests on the maps, I do them because they're there and because I get xp/influence/power for them. The war table operations, those give me something to care about.

[XMissWooX]

I don't go by the timing at all, instead I prefer to choose based on the individual mission. Generally I will use the following rules:
If it involves manpower, such as building or fighting, I will choose Cullen.
If it involves trading or making alliances, I will choose Josephine.
If it involves being discreet and I don't want our actions traced back to the Inquisition, I will choose Leiliana.

[DanAxe]

...Why?

 

Soldiers are generally happier when their feet aren't bleeding from the massive blisters caused by improper footwear during wartime.

 

If I'm not mistaken thats a mission to raise morale for the soldiers in the Western Approach because its not easy to be stationed in the middle of the desert for long periods of time. I dont think new shoes would help in the slightest tho haha. I did lol at it hard, brought back the days of discussing shoes with Leliana in Origins, the sarcastic dialogue options for those conversations were truly epic.

Josie tho wants to send books and make a library which is also lol. I guess the soldiers in the desert working while sweating like pigs under an unforgiving sun would be much happier if they had books to read - "take their minds of it" lol.

Cullen is definitely the best option - send a chef to make yummy dinners haha well at least that combined with wine should make their nights bearable.

 

This little things make for a very welcome surprise when your reading thru all the possible missions you can go at.

[Sylentmana]

One of the worst ones I saw was where Cullen suggested I send troops to more or less threaten my own Dalish clan.

[KneeTheCap]

I made the mistake of looking at the timers at first, I just assumed that no matter what I choose the outcome would be the same. I was wrong. So very, very wrong. This will be remedied on my second playthrough for sure

[Ieldra]

One of the worst ones I saw was where Cullen suggested I send troops to more or less threaten my own Dalish clan.

Eh...did we play a different version? I read that he sents the troops as support. There is a pre-release version published somewhere where he does appear to threaten, but not in my game.

[Jester]

Eh...did we play a different version? I read that he sents the troops as support. There is a pre-release version published somewhere where he does appear to threaten, but not in my game.

He wants to send them to show that the Inquisition is serious.

[Sylentmana]

Eh...did we play a different version? I read that he sents the troops as support. There is a pre-release version published somewhere where he does appear to threaten, but not in my game.

He mentions that he could send troops to tell them you're safe and let them know that the the Inquisition should be taken seriously, as if they wouldn't.  They already believe you to be taken prisoner.  This option came across as a threat in my opinion.

[Ieldra]

He mentions that he could send troops to tell them you're safe and let them know that the the Inquisition should be taken seriously, as if they wouldn't.  They already believe you to be taken prisoner.  This option came across as a threat in my opinion.

Oh...that's a different operation. I never chose Cullen for that. I was referring to the later one where the clan is threatened and I can have Cullen send troops in for support to avoid an undesirable outcome. 

[Maverick827]

My only complaint with the war table is that it acts like gathering intelligence (Leiliana) is a decision. I should be gathering intelligence to inform my decision. This makes me want to use Leiliana a huge majority of the time.

[Sylentmana]

Oh...that's a different operation. I never chose Cullen for that. I was referring to the later one where the clan is threatened and I can have Cullen send troops in for support to avoid an undesirable outcome. 

I did that on too. It seemed like the best way to protect them.

[Quaddis]

I lol'd at the mission where Leliana wanted to raise soldiers's morale at a keep by buying them new shoes.

 

That is actually best option of them all. Boots with nice ankle and arch support that nicely fit on long patrols do not result in usual crying at night camp about blisters and pain.

[Abaddon_86]

The differences became fairly evident with the Wardens series of operations. At first, I thought, yeah, Cullen and sometimes Leliana make the most sense as they also had the lowest time required. Thing is, the Wardens perished and I never even made it to operation series' end. Reloaded and used Josephine most of the time, et voila, not only did I get an additional operation but they also never perished but remained a fighting force.

[Shellsh0cker]

My only complaint with the war table is that it acts like gathering intelligence (Leiliana) is a decision. I should be gathering intelligence to inform my decision. This makes me want to use Leiliana a huge majority of the time.

 

Yeah, seems like a lot of the time the game's asking you to pick between a "good cop" or "bad cop" approach, and the fact that I can't do both is a little annoying. Like the one you get from Ser Morris to negotiate a deal for weapon plans. I went with Josephine, who tried to reason with the interfering noble, but when that didn't work out, I don't see any reason why I shouldn't be able to say "OK, we tried being nice about it; Leliana, you're up."

 

One that I really liked was where some Tevinter magister had information we wanted—I think it's part of the operation chain Dorian gives you—and your options were bribe, threaten, or infiltrate. (You get one guess as to which advisor proposed which.) For me, that was a perfect example of how I thought a War Table operation should work: one problem (we need this information), one solution (we get the information), but three different ways of tackling the problem to get that solution. Personally, I thought there were a few too many operations where the advisors weren't just proposing different approaches, but different solutions altogether.

[Maverick827]

Depending on circumstances, soldiers would probably kill for good shoes.  I'm reminded of Valley Forge or the Confederates.  No shoes or crappy thin-soled shoes that rub blisters are agony when you have to march or patrol all day in the elements.

Like someone else said, I think Cullen would know best what the troops would need. If his sugguestion is not also footware, then I'm content assuming the Inquisition already has that covered and my soldiers are well shoe'd.

[corporal doody]

For Grunts....fresh socks are a guarantee moral booster!  truth.

[Aurok]

Sometimes relying on the local knowledge of your allies seems a better option than sending your own people to fumble around in terrain they don't know.

[M Hedonist]

I'm always confused when someone's approach to a mission is to 'do nothing'. Why does it take them 50 minutes to do nothing?

[Shellsh0cker]

Sometimes relying on the local knowledge of your allies seems a better option than sending your own people to fumble around in terrain they don't know.

 

Now that is a good point. I just wish Josie would've pointed it out.

[KneeTheCap]

I'm always confused when someone's approach to a mission is to 'do nothing'. Why does it take them 50 minutes to do nothing?

 

They have to think how they'll break the news to you

 

"Cullen, how did the assignment go?"

"My lord inquisitor, we uh....we... we did nothing, sir. Absolutely nothing."

[StarcloudSWG]

What's really tricky is that the advisor who takes the least time is not always the best option. Some operations are chained in sequence; if you pick the wrong advisor, the chain stops and you don't get the next operation. And in many of these chains, the time taken to complete it is a poor indicator of which one works best.

 

There was one where the advisor who took the longest was actually the best one because the ops chain stopped if you chose anyone else. I think it was the first mission in the Ben-Hassrath chain that ends with the fire ship.

[Degenerate Rakia Time]

One of the worst ones I saw was where Cullen suggested I send troops to more or less threaten my own Dalish clan.

i love that option......but my elf hates her clan. Also as much as i dislike Cullen for me he is the god of the war table - **** diplomacy, we have SWORDS

[Grieving Natashina]

OP, I never thought I'd see someone use a quote from Yuna from FFX-2 as a thread title.  Well done.  

 

It depends upon the mission.  Usually if it's military, Cullen is up.  Josie handles anything dealing with nobles for the most part and Leliana is great for any sneaking around.  For some quests, I took the longer route instead of the quick fix.

 

Spoiler

Like with Josie's personal quest.  I choose to elevate the nobles instead of having Leliana's crew break into the House of Repose.  I had a feeling it was going to end very badly if I decided to let Leliana handle it.