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[Aramintai]

you do realize that in our own history individuals of highly oppressed minority groups have garnered much respect and leadership, through charisma and hard work, right? Females in highly patriarchal and misogynistic societies, have lead powerful countries and have commanded the loyalties of millions upon millions of people across the ages. If for example you are a powerful and charismatic, dalish mage, then yes, you will be able to command the respect of people who might be prejudiced at first, its hardly as unplausible as some of you are making it out to be. Phoolan devi, known as the "bandit queen" was a poor little girl in a very poor indian village, who was sold to a man much older for livestock, then escaped and ended up raped by a **** ton of men in a village, then made her -own- group of outlaws, all male, who followed her loyally and she went back had all the men rounded up and slaughtered in that village and then became a politican at the end of her "career" as a bandit!  People are capable of doing extraordinary things, even the most oppressed and downtrodden. If real extremely oppressed people without magical powers are capable of becoming great leaders then why shouldnt those with powerful magic at their disposal be able to?

 

Have you seen me berate elves in here? Your wall of text is unneeded. I never said they don't fit because they're the dirt of society who need to prove something to the rest of the world, I said they don't fit because they are poorly written into being at the Conclave (probably because other races were the last year addition) and being dalish are detached from the human world problems. You clearly have a dalish headcanon for yourself, which is fine, but don't try so hard to impose it on others, because they have their own.

[Scerene]

Have you seen me berate elves in here? Your wall of text is unneeded. I never said they don't fit because they're the dirt of society who need to prove something to the rest of the world, I said they don't fit because they are poorly written into the being at the Conclave (probably because other races were the last year addition) and being dalish are detached from the human world problems. You clearly have a dalish headcanon for yourself, which is fine, but don't try so hard to impose it on others, because they have their own.

ugh these "human world problems" have a great impact on the dalish elves, who are trying to ljve in this "human world", where much of the fighting between the mages and the templars occurs, so yes, they have a pretty good reason to be concerned about the outcome of the conclave, even though i agree it was lazily described. Tbh i was also responding to the people who suggested it would be impossible for an elf to be the leader of the inq simply because of their oppressed status, whether or not you are one of those, i cant recall. My point is, there is nothing to stop very oppressed people, especially when they have great magical power at their fingertips to make extraordinary accomplishments. If an extremely poor girl, can rise from child abuse, to group rape, to leading a group of outlaws and then be accepted into parliament, then yes, an elf can become the leader of the inquisition.

Im not trying to impose my canon on you, i was just responding to the idea that oppressed people can never achieve high levels of leadership, by proving it is false.

[llandwynwyn]

Using a lot of elf lore near the end of the game and having a romance with an elf god doesn't make the story elf-central.

 

The source of your power is from an elven orb.

[Master Race]

I don't see the elf inquisitor fitting any better to be honest. They sound/act like a human 90% of the time, need Morrigan to translate, are constantly called herald of andraste and lead an organization that all though not exactly part of the chantry is still very andrastian with the vast majority of its members loyal andrastians who believe you blessed. The human interacting with all the elven lore and such makes more sense since they would not know much about it and ask lots of questions/need help from somebody like Morrigan or Solas.

[errantknight]

A dwarf has the same connection to the story that a human warrior has in that it's a surface dwarf, living in the surface world and if they're anything like most surface dwarves, probably Andrastian.  The Quanri have a vested interest in the worlld not ending and have an interesting 'outsider' pov. I had no trouble with my human warrior not feeling connected at all.

 

It works for all types. They're good writers, so....

[llandwynwyn]

Of course it makes a difference.

 

History will write the Inquisitor as the Herald of Andraste, blessed powers by the Maker, but the truth is that underneath it all was Elven Power at play. Thematically, at its center DAI is very elven focused.

 

Even if we ignore the main quest. Exploring all the regions and you'll find most of the wonders of the world are elven. Many mementos of a glorious elven past that are succumbing to the present.

[Aramintai]

Of course it makes a difference.

 

History will write the Inquisitor as the Herald of Andraste, blessed powers by the Maker, but the truth is that underneath it all was Elven Power at play. Thematically, at its center DAI is very elven focused.

 

Even if we ignore the main quest. Exploring all the regions and you'll find most of the wonders of the world are elven. Many mementos of a glorious elven past that are succumbing to the present.

Ha! By your logic Tolkien also should have made an elf as a protagonist in LOTR, just because there's so much elven lore there. And yet he made him an ignorant hobbit, lol.