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I don't get this argument. Demons can already enter the world physically through rifts, why would they want to go through the trouble of possessing someone?
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Actually, I think there's attraction to view specifically through our thoughts and eyes. The only demons that don't care to possess necessarily are Shades.
I don't get this argument. Demons can already enter the world physically through rifts, why would they want to go through the trouble of possessing someone?
They're in the world physically by force, not by their own choice/actions and iirc, someone mentioned that the demons are actually in pain because of it. Or something. I don't know. They're not 'alive' in the sense that humans/elves/dwarves/qunari are I think. I mean, I doubt your advisors are going batshit crazy "BECAUSE ABOMINATIONS" for no reason.
Plus, even if they don't need to possess someone, I'm sure the demons are either too stupid to realize they don't need to possess others or they believe they can get MOAR POWAH by possessing.
For me tis 2 reasons.
1. Cant have Tervinter in Red Cliff.
2. Dorian but mostly Dorian.
Still baffles me that some people find it logical to bring tasty demon-vessels to a demon-infested breach :'D
I mean, sure, I couldn't see any abominations but it just seems highly illogical to take that risk.
Also, mages told me to eff off (ok besides Shady McEvilpants Alexius), while some templars were working their butts off to get their comrades back to normal.
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Maybe because back in DAO it were always mages or magical demons/spirits that closed rips in the veil (see Avernus or Sophia Drydens demon posessed coprse in Wardens keep and Justice in the blackmarshes) whereas I don't remember a single instance where a templar directly influenced the veil itself.
All we ever see them do is kill the stuff that crawls out of the fade and they mostly suck at that as well (though admittedly they only suck at it when a main protagonist is around so that said protagonist can save their a*ses. Off screen they are described as being quite effective at killing magical beings.)
They're in the world physically by force, not by their own choice/actions and iirc, someone mentioned that the demons are actually in pain because of it. Or something. I don't know. They're not 'alive' in the sense that humans/elves/dwarves/qunari are I think. I mean, I doubt your advisors are going batshit crazy "BECAUSE ABOMINATIONS" for no reason.
Plus, even if they don't need to possess someone, I'm sure the demons are either too stupid to realize they don't need to possess others or they believe they can get MOAR POWAH by possessing.
Even if you do pick Templars, there is still an army of Red Templars opposing you.
The choice does not affect gameplay. It only unlocks a different set of side missions and figures into who the game chooses as Divine.
I assume it's a culmination of things, because many decisions I made were against Cassandra's wishes, and she still became Divine. I simply opted to support her in dialogue as well as a war table operation. I'm a bit torn as to which I'd actually prefer to be Divine though. I like Cassandra infinitely more than I like Leliana, but I can't help but feel that Cassandra would probably be happier being a soldier in the Inquisition or restarting the Seeker order than having to deal with those clerics.
It's disappointing that the red templars exist regardless, but that's par for the course for these major enemy types. They're essentially like the rachni.
You can get both mage and Templar agents by visiting the mages first and grab the mage agent and then do the templar Quest which would really ****** off the mages.
You can get both mage and Templar agents by visiting the mages first and grab the mage agent and then do the templar Quest which would really ****** off the mages.
So how does this play out? Is there like some kind of rap battle in front of the Haven Chantry or something?
Because Cullen was my LI and I will get an extra mission centered around him for choosing mages.
I always thought choosing the mages was a good step towards undermining the Templars and having the Inquisition supplant them as the de facto andrastian military order.
That - and I'm told the mages whine constantly in Skyhold... I'd regret their liberation every second.
Constantly? More like once. LOL, I liked Cassandra's reaction to that complaining mage, telling them they're now independent allies and they'll better start acting like it. "Deal. With. It." Indeed. Most appear to be quite happy though.
Seems more logical to me to get magic user's to help me close a magic hole in the sky.
Constantly? More like once. LOL, I liked Cassandra's reaction to that complaining mage, telling them they're now independent allies and they'll better start acting like it. "Deal. With. It." Indeed. Most appear to be quite happy though.
It's also worth reminding that this single mage complains to Cassandra at Haven, and the most you ever get from that very same mage is some comments on books in Skyhold's library, which he maintains.
I really only using them now to do romances but in one of my main 2 I chose Templars after meeting after meeting with alexius
One question I have the red templars are pretty much made against most of their will and fell under direct control of cory or samson somehow not exactly sure but do they ever say the venatori are more than a cult who are mainly there on their own accord but the slave are still probably happy after being bought and freed so in most of my playthroughs I would choose templars because if the mages really didn't to be with the venatori they could just leave so i don't feel as bad
A lot of people probably picked Mages because they don't cost any power, so it's faster
And really, once you see that short scene, you're have to either metagame or be (RPing) a complete moron not to side with the mages. Alexius' time magic is tearing at the fabric of reality. That is the biggest threat we have ever seen i...
That´s mettagaming stance, without knowing of what may happen or what is actually happening you have no idea that time traveling is in play, and when you choose templars it has still none impact on the main plot at all ignoring venatori-mages instead of red templars as a main fraction of Corrypheus army.
That´s mettagaming stance, without knowing of what may happen or what is actually happening you have no idea that time traveling is in play, and when you choose templars it has still none impact on the main plot at all ignoring venatori-mages instead of red templars as a main fraction of Corrypheus army.
Have you even seen that scene in Redcliffe with Dorian and Felix prior to committing to the mage side? They make it crystal clear what Alexius is doing and what is at stake. There's also a breach right before Redcliffe that features temporal distortions so that you know they're telling the truth.
I should be clear, I meant if you never visited Redcliff and went straight to the Templars.
I should be clear, I meant if you never visited Redcliff and went straight to the Templars.
What? Mages cost power. You can meet Fiona and Alexius in Redcliffe without spending power, but it costs 15 power to commit to the mages, same as the templars. You just don't get a short scene for free.
And really, once you see that short scene, you're have to either metagame or be (RPing) a complete moron not to side with the mages. Alexius' time magic is tearing at the fabric of reality. That is the biggest threat we have ever seen in Dragon Age. Corypheus, the Breach, the Blight, red lyrium, all of that pales in comparison to destroying reality itself. Alexius must be stopped, and that was the only time I really wanted to smack Cullen this game. "Sure, the evil archmage's magic is going to undo reality, but his castle is kinda hard to get into so let's ignore him."
The game really should've made you deal with Alexius right after even if you sided with the templars. He is a threat that should not be ignored, and the entire world being plot armored is the only reason anything still exists after players side with the templars and let Alexius run free. Ironically, a real templar would choose to go after Alexius and stop the mad wizard.
Played both choices and it definitely seems like mages are the canon choice. It just sucks that we can't launch Fiona's smug ass out of a trebuchet.
I chose the Templars because the mages were indentured to Tevinter - there is NO reason prior to accepting the mission to believe you will be able to liberate them, or if they even want to BE liberated, from Tevinter control.
In fact - I believed the best soluation against "unstable magic" used by Alexius and the Venatori - was a bunch of anit-magic warriors.
For me - there is absolutely zero reason to choose the already lost mages.
Meta-gaming... chosing Templars, your world isn't populated by giant crystal golems... choosing the mages released an entirely new nightmarish faction on Thedas.
That - and I'm told the mages whine constantly in Skyhold... I'd regret their liberation every second.
Actually there's no reason why the mages agreed to become slaves to Tevinter since we already saw that they felt strong enough to go it alone. Also, why wouldn't the mages not want to be slaves? Wasn't that the entire point behind rebeling against the Circles in the first place? To put an end to their enslavement? The entire Tevinter thing was way too forced and made too little sense when you really start to think about it. So I always go and rescue the mages from the horrible writing that makes them act as idiotic as Orsino at the end of DA2 when he decides to turn into a flesh golem and attack you even though you killed all the bad guys so he could be free and not turn into a flesh golem.
I also have a hard time siding with someone who came to Val R. for the sole purpose of punching a member of the Chantry in the face for no real reason other than to be a giant *******. Couldn't Bioware have just made him take a bite out of an apple instead?
What? Mages cost power. You can meet Fiona and Alexius in Redcliffe without spending power, but it costs 15 power to commit to the mages, same as the templars. You just don't get a short scene for free.
And really, once you see that short scene, you're have to either metagame or be (RPing) a complete moron not to side with the mages. Alexius' time magic is tearing at the fabric of reality. That is the biggest threat we have ever seen in Dragon Age. Corypheus, the Breach, the Blight, red lyrium, all of that pales in comparison to destroying reality itself. Alexius must be stopped, and that was the only time I really wanted to smack Cullen this game. "Sure, the evil archmage's magic is going to undo reality, but his castle is kinda hard to get into so let's ignore him."
The game really should've made you deal with Alexius right after even if you sided with the templars. He is a threat that should not be ignored, and the entire world being plot armored is the only reason anything still exists after players side with the templars and let Alexius run free. Ironically, a real templar would choose to go after Alexius and stop the mad wizard.
Should we also talk about how you sit around chatting up Alexius when you could have just shot him with an arrow and ended that scene as soon as it began instead of having to get thrown forwards in time?
I'm so sick of having to sit through ridiculous cut scenes that rob me of my agency when I know something easily preventable is going to happen because my character just stands there doing nothing for 5 minutes.
Generally my missions are purely for rp reasons but...
Tevinter Magister with highly unstable time magic kind of screams "NOT GOOD".
I do enjoy the templar mission a bit more, however, so if it wasn't for the roleplay thing I probably would choose the Templars again, and again, and again.
Can someone tell me if the nobles at least make snide remarks if you play a Dalish Elf? Unless Josephine is a miracle worker I have a hard time believing that ten noble families from Orlais would rally around an upstart elf.
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