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[Korva]

I really liked this guy from the word go. And then ... he died on me. I was honestly upset. Fast forward many hours later, and I was even MORE upset when I learned that I could have saved him! Can't remember the last time I felt so guilty and down over letting a video game character die. Honestly, I came this close to just reloading that much earlier save and making sure to keep him alive -- but it would have meant too much wasted playtime, sadly, because I'm a ridiculously slow player.

 

Honestly, I was rather disappointed for the setup of the templar quest, which feels way less "personal" and immediate of a threat compared to the mage quest. But the quest itself is brilliant, and Ser Barris rocks as a great example of what a real templar can and should be. I'll honestly have a hell of a hard time picking the mages over the templars in any future game. Fiona is an effing moron, good riddance to her.

 

I will definitely need to save Barris in a future playthrough and let him shine as the new leader of the order.

[Ceoldoren]

He's a templar. His death, or probable conversion into a red lyrium fiend and subsequent death, is unmourned in my playthrough.

Have you actually met Barris ? He's probably the nicest Templar I've ever met. 

[Ceoldoren]

I conscripted the templars but never got any choice about promoting him, or even talking to him again at all. Is he even a npc in skyhold? I could not find him. Could some detail the requirements to be able to promote Barris?

 

Do you raise the flags at the beginning? Because if you don´t, then the orlesian noble survives, and you judge a red templar officer. Maybe that takes the place instead of promoting Barris?

If you recruit the Templars you should get a bunch of war table missions involving Barris leading missions. Keep doing those and eventually you'll get a quest to promote him. 

[Ceoldoren]

I really liked this guy from the word go. And then ... he died on me. I was honestly upset. Fast forward many hours later, and I was even MORE upset when I learned that I could have saved him! Can't remember the last time I felt so guilty and down over letting a video game character die. Honestly, I came this close to just reloading that much earlier save and making sure to keep him alive -- but it would have meant too much wasted playtime, sadly, because I'm a ridiculously slow player.

 

Honestly, I was rather disappointed for the setup of the templar quest, which feels way less "personal" and immediate of a threat compared to the mage quest. But the quest itself is brilliant, and Ser Barris rocks as a great example of what a real templar can and should be. I'll honestly have a hell of a hard time picking the mages over the templars in any future game. Fiona is an effing moron, good riddance to her.

 

I will definitely need to save Barris in a future playthrough and let him shine as the new leader of the order.

Just remember to go back to the Hall if it gets to around 50 % and he'll be fine. 

[herkles]

Have you actually met Barris ? He's probably the nicest Templar I've ever met. 

you are refering to xil

xil is a mage zealot who thinks all templars swear an oath to opress mages and be evil knighs who cackle and plot to be evil while being evil.

[Ceoldoren]

I actually notice something... When Haven's attacked & you allied with/conscript Templars, Fiona is one of the bosses that you have to kill.

 

But, if you ally/conscript Mages, Knight-Captain Denam is the boss that you'll have to kill. In my PT I didn't see Ser Barris, it was Denam all right.

 

So... Does this mean whatever happens, whoever you ally with, Barris survives?

 

I sense a disturbance in the Force. Maker willing, he'll be on the next game...

It's more likely that he resisted and was killed before he could be turned honestly. 

[Ceoldoren]

When the war started, is what I meant. When the Order went off the rails and attacked the mages.

 

 

And had a good person been there, I might have minded.

How about you actually know the character you're talking about rather than blindly spouting your nonsense ? 

[Ceoldoren]

you are refering to xil

xil is a mage zealot who thinks all templars swear an oath to opress mages and be evil knighs who cackle and plot to be evil while being evil.

Than he/she should probably get out of a thread about a Templar. 

[herkles]

Here is a question, do you think barris could return in DA4 even if it does head north to Tevinter? other countries like Rivain, Antiva, Nevarra, or the Anderfels I can see as all of them are under the southern chantry but what of Tevinter?

[PrinceLionheart]

Really wishing Barris, or someone like him, was a companion.

[MoonDrummer]

I thought he died inmine

[Ceoldoren]

Here is a question, do you think barris could return in DA4 even if it does head north to Tevinter? other countries like Rivain, Antiva, Nevarra, or the Anderfels I can see as all of them are under the southern chantry but what of Tevinter?

It's not impossible. I just worry that because he can die that we'll never see him again. And that would make me really sad. 

[ArvinDulku]

When the war started, is what I meant. When the Order went off the rails and attacked the mages.
 
 
And had a good person been there, I might have minded.

 
He never partook in the war against anyone, he stood by what he believed was his duty and stayed in Val Royeaux protecting what was left of the Chantry.

 

And quite rich to say the order went off the rails, considering the mages declared war in Val Royeaux, the seat of the Sunburst Throne and The White Spire itself. 
 
Barris only left join the Templars at Therinfal Redoubt when directly ordered, to his face btw, by Lord Seeker Lambert (or rather the Envy Demon wearing Lambert's face) whom he considers his commanding officer where he was one the main parties questioning why they were holed up and shirking their duties when demons were falling from the sky.

 

So steadfast he was, and those drawn under him I presume (and I am quite certain, considering how easily they defer to him), that the Red Templar faction decided against even trying to corrupt him at all, deciding his death would serve them better.

 

And yes, he is a good person, and worthier of respect in comparison to anyone in the ill fated mage rebellion.

[Ranadiel Marius]

Here is a question, do you think barris could return in DA4 even if it does head north to Tevinter? other countries like Rivain, Antiva, Nevarra, or the Anderfels I can see as all of them are under the southern chantry but what of Tevinter?

I think he could and that it would be awesome, but it is extremely unlikely that he would take an important position since he can die. I know Leliana- did so, but she also died in a mountain of lyrium.

[Ceoldoren]

 
He never partook in the war against anyone, he stood by what he believed was his duty and stayed in Val Royeaux protecting what was left of the Chantry.

 

And quite rich to say the order went off the rails, considering the mages declared war in Val Royeaux, the seat of the Sunburst Throne and The White Spire itself. 
 
Barris only left join the Templars at Therinfal Redoubt when directly ordered, to his face btw, by Lord Seeker Lambert (or rather the Envy Demon wearing Lambert's face) whom he considers his commanding officer where he was one the main parties questioning why they were holed up and shirking their duties when demons were falling from the sky.

 

So steadfast he was, and those drawn under him I presume (and I am quite certain, considering how easily they defer to him), that the Red Templar faction decided against even trying to corrupt him at all, deciding his death would serve them better.

 

And yes, he is a good person, and worthier of respect in comparison to anyone in the ill fated mage rebellion.

Couldn't have said it better myself. 

[Steelcan]

OP is wrong, his name is Knight Commander Barris

[Ceoldoren]

OP is wrong, his name is Knight Commander Barris

Most will know him as Ser Barris since a lot of people won't get to promote him. But yes, he is most certainly Knight-Commander Barris to me. 

[Jazzpha]

Barris is amazing, and a really awesome surprise for my first ever pro-Templar run. I would have loved for him to be a secret companion, but I also feel like he'll do better work for Thedas allied with the Inquisition and head of the Order.

And since the Seekers are basically done for, Barris is head of the only military arm of the Faith that still exists. No one else I'd rather have in charge. He's a quintessentially good person, and I grinned like an idiot promoting him. Really makes me glad I didn't conscript the Order.

Looking forward to including him in every piece of fanfiction I ever write for DAI, in ways large or small.

And as was said earlier, Barris is going to make it really, really hard to side with the Mages, ever.

[Xilizhra]

 
He never partook in the war against anyone, he stood by what he believed was his duty and stayed in Val Royeaux protecting what was left of the Chantry.

 

And quite rich to say the order went off the rails, considering the mages declared war in Val Royeaux, the seat of the Sunburst Throne and The White Spire itself. 
 
Barris only left join the Templars at Therinfal Redoubt when directly ordered, to his face btw, by Lord Seeker Lambert (or rather the Envy Demon wearing Lambert's face) whom he considers his commanding officer where he was one the main parties questioning why they were holed up and shirking their duties when demons were falling from the sky.

 

So steadfast he was, and those drawn under him I presume (and I am quite certain, considering how easily they defer to him), that the Red Templar faction decided against even trying to corrupt him at all, deciding his death would serve them better.

 

And yes, he is a good person, and worthier of respect in comparison to anyone in the ill fated mage rebellion.

His failure was in obeying the commands of a warmongering order. I owe him nothing.

[Ceoldoren]

His failure was in obeying the commands of a warmongering order. I owe him nothing.

If I'm not mistaken, the mages started the war. Barris never fought a mage the entire war. Hell, he almost got killed protecting a falsely accused blood abomination.

 

How many mages would of the done the same for a decent templar ?  

[Mr.House]

Making Ser Barris Knight Commander was a awesome scene. He deserved it so much after all his actions and achievements. Him and CUkllen(in regards to breaking the lyruim leash) are templars that others SHOULD look up to and learn.

[Ceoldoren]

Barris is amazing, and a really awesome surprise for my first ever pro-Templar run. I would have loved for him to be a secret companion, but I also feel like he'll do better work for Thedas allied with the Inquisition and head of the Order.

And since the Seekers are basically done for, Barris is head of the only military arm of the Faith that still exists. No one else I'd rather have in charge. He's a quintessentially good person, and I grinned like an idiot promoting him. Really makes me glad I didn't conscript the Order.

Looking forward to including him in every piece of fanfiction I ever write for DAI, in ways large or small.

And as was said earlier, Barris is going to make it really, really hard to side with the Mages, ever.

Please do ! I'm considering writing a fanfic centered on him and my Inquisitor. Though right now it's just a thought. 

[Steelcan]

His failure was in obeying the commands of a warmongering order. I owe him nothing.

the mages started the war

[Ceoldoren]

the mages started the war

Indeed, literally one branch of the entire Templar order attacked mages first. And that was led by a crazy woman whom the Templars helped defeat.

 

 

And to be fair...I'm pretty sure just about every mage in Kirkwall was a blood mage. 

[ArvinDulku]

His failure was in obeying the commands of a warmongering order. I owe him nothing.

 

Warmongering? Weird, considering the mages fired the first shot.

 

But of course you'll support a bunch of selfish d-bags who sold themselves into slavery that somehow helps them...escape supposed oppression? Yeah, you really know how to pick em.

 

And lets not forget stabbing in the back a nation that granted you sanctuary by inviting a hostile foreign force unto their nations soil while displacing the local lord and his people.

 

Right, I am done here.

 

Knight-Commander Barris is Awesome ****, and that is just the way it is.