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#26
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I think there was a study about sales in movies over the past decade or so and they rose with raising priracy numbers. So at least one could argue that while it may not actually boost sales, it does not hurt sales.

 

Some companies at least realized that the age-old idea of "one more copy means one less original sold" doesn't hold true. Companies who simply ditched any kind of copy protection (CD Project Red with The Witcher 2) or refused to go after illegal downloads (HBO with their Game of Thrones series, also acknowledging their lacking distribution of the series outside of the USA) did not suffer at all. They sold well, they made a ton of money and got the positive feedback from the community as a big bonus.

 

Because while piracy probably doesn't boost sales, good relations to your customers certainly does. I'm sure of it.

I also believe piracy does not hurt sales that much, but it certainly hurts. There are people that wouldn't buy the game either way (I am one of these people sometimes), but there are also others that are so hyped about a game that will buy the game if they don't have a pirate version. If they have the pirate version however, they might buy the game later on sale or not at all...

 

But in the end, piracy is still wrong. If I make something and sell it, I want to be paid for it.



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crytek said games are pirated 9 times for every one sale. That logic didn't hold up very well with the denuvo secured fifa though... it barely sold more copies than last years.

Pirating-wise, DRM only affects pirates with no patience to wait for it getting cracked, no idea what % of pirates those are. Companies seem to center themselves on launch sales and not to give much thought in long term ones, so I guess from their POV DRM works even if it gets cracked within weeks.



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Well, I for one wouldn't be surprised if denuvo hampers the game. I had ill luck with both late DA titles. I had to "pirate" them both. Whats more I still have A TON of problems with it. Like they don't appear underneath my avatar for one, legacy BW page doesn't recognise my DA2 title although both are on my Origin account - which I had to activate and "reclaim" through support. I couldn't activate neither DAO nor DA2 on the launch day (or whenever I bought them). I had more than many problems with running the game while it had connectivity issues with servers. I was pissed, d/l the cracked version and LO AND BEHOLD! - both games run like a dream!

Some month ago I wanted to do another DA2 play-through - none of my choices were stored on the servers achievement-wise and I lost all saves... so I'm trying to drag myself through it again - guess what? The textures are missing. Like EVERYWHERE! Especially in convos. Imagine the nightmare talking to Anders without his skin, or fighting Qunari with no legs :) or... oh gods, you name it...

What did I learn from this example? No to buy BW games on day one. And if I cant take advantage of achievements and other crap why bother? If the game is causing problems I download pirated version and be done with the original.

 

Considering all this I have a fair amount of "I worry" that DAI too will be insufferable pile of mess. But I'm patient, I'll wait for  some info regarding the subject.

 

EDIT: to be clear - I did buy the games, just couldn't run them so I d/l cracked versions.



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This thread still open?



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Well, I for one wouldn't be surprised if denuvo hampers the game. I had ill luck with both late DA titles. I had to "pirate" them both. Whats more I still have A TON of problems with it. Like they don't appear underneath my avatar for one, legacy BW page doesn't recognise my DA2 title although both are on my Origin account - which I had to activate and "reclaim" through support. I couldn't activate neither DAO nor DA2 on the launch day (or whenever I bought them). I had more than many problems with running the game while it had connectivity issues with servers. I was pissed, d/l the cracked version and LO AND BEHOLD! - both games run like a dream!

Some month ago I wanted to do another DA2 play-through - none of my choices were stored on the servers achievement-wise and I lost all saves... so I'm trying to drag myself through it again - guess what? The textures are missing. Like EVERYWHERE! Especially in convos. Imagine the nightmare talking to Anders without his skin, or fighting Qunari with no legs :) or... oh gods, you name it...

What did I learn from this example? No to buy BW games on day one. And if I cant take advantage of achievements and other crap why bother? If the game is causing problems I download pirated version and be done with the original.

 

Considering all this I have a fair amount of "I worry" that DAI too will be insufferable pile of mess. But I'm patient, I'll wait for  some info regarding the subject.

 

EDIT: to be clear - I did buy the games, just couldn't run them so I d/l cracked versions.

The only problem I had was Origin not wanting my money XD

I wanted to buy the game before EU release (21/11) and I was always getting errors. Fortunately I was able to buy it before midnight (20/11).

 

Other than that, the game downloaded and ran like a charm.



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And we are done here.