As the codex entry in DAI says, the Seven who entered the Black City took names that signified their role in the ritual.
"The Architect" fits this criteria.
It would be ironic that if the Old God he represented amongst the Seven was Urthemiel.
Quite. Perhaps the Architect is the one who actually designed the ritual.
If the architect was a magister surely when the warden killed him he would have transferred into a warden's body.
It only take a body with the taint, doesn't need to be a warden, and distance is not a factor according to Morrigan+Well of Sorrows whispering.
Going by how the Wardens in my DAI ending started to disappear again (from everywhere), I get the feeling that there is another Magister (or two) around who saw what Cory did and went "Super Good Idea Dude!" and the Architect was alive in the world state I used.
Someone on BRN gave me an interesting idea - what if every Old God was corrupted by his own priest? Dumat by the Corypheus, for example? The Architect accidentaly corrupted the Urthemiel and he might as well be his priest (the God of Beauty and an architect - seems fitting). Etc
Meaning that there might be two magisters left. Who probably lost their memories just like the Architect
Entirely possible. Corypheus was captured only after the First Blight. He was active during it.
But if things match so perfectly even when the Magisters don't intend them to; like with the Architect who didn't intend to corrupt Urthemiel; then the Chantry needs to write a new verse for the Chant entitled "Irony is how the Maker gets His kicks."
I miss the Architect. Was a cool guy.
Also that intelligent darkspawn you can spare.
Cory being active during the first Blight is another reason why amnesia isn't out of the question here; Corypheus remembers his life up to breaching the Black City, but by all appearances doesn't remember the two hundred years of being a darkspawn that came after.
In that regard, the Architect(assuming he is a magister for the sake of argument) is something of his opposite; he remembers his existence as a darkspawn, but none of what came before.
Entirely possible. Corypheus was captured only after the First Blight. He was active during it.
But if things match so perfectly even when the Magisters don't intend them to; like with the Architect who didn't intend to corrupt Urthemiel; then the Chantry needs to write a new verse for the Chant entitled "Irony is how the Maker gets His kicks."
This possibility makes the Magisters even more dangerous than the Old Gods to some extent. Old Gods are powerful but can be destroyed with a single soul. The magisters don't die even if killed by the grey wardens. It's a good thing the Architect seems to be a good guy and also unaware of his powers. Like, just imagine if he was nasty and knew about it... Immortal enemy?
As the codex entry in DAI says, the Seven who entered the Black City took names that signified their role in the ritual.
"The Architect" fits this criteria.
It would be ironic that if the Old God he represented amongst the Seven was Urthemiel.
Wasn't Urthemiel the dragon of love or something like that... He would be "the lover" not the architect in such case.
In any case, it seems to me like Cory and Architect have different powers. For example, The Architect can awaken darkspawn which is in truth a power to reckon with. Corypheus on the other side, although resistant, he's more on the leagues of The Messenger and The Mother, his only perk being capable of jumping bodies and being a tevinter nutjob (tevinter insanity always have followers).
I'm more interested in seeing how would a match Architect vs Corypheus (Blight vs Demons) would be.
If the architect was a magister surely when the warden killed him he would have transferred into a warden's body.
And it's quite possible because he had Utha and Velana's sister nearby, so why not? (if warden kills him, of course)
I totally agree with the point of view that the Architect is one of the magisters, this idea crossed my mind as well. Plus Cory and the one that died in the deep roads, we have 4 left.
Entirely possible. Corypheus was captured only after the First Blight. He was active during it.
But if things match so perfectly even when the Magisters don't intend them to; like with the Architect who didn't intend to corrupt Urthemiel; then the Chantry needs to write a new verse for the Chant entitled "Irony is how the Maker gets His kicks."
I believe since DAO that the Taint/Blight is a mind control/compulsion magic that makes people infected do things as if they believe it is the right thing to do until their mind collapse and they become "drones". DAI reinforced that theory to me.
Having the Magisters corrupting the "old god" they served would make sense if they are subtlety mind controlled by the taint.
You have a very different definition of proof than the rest of the world. He doesn't control the Taint, although since even Avernus can do that, it would mean nothing. Cory can actually influence minds. He doesn't look like a magister, he just dresses like a mage. He has no unique magical abilities. Everyone has a unique backstory once they get a name and five minutes of screentime. That's great. Until the opposite, I'll go on believing he isn't. Especially with slim to nil in favor of it.
Same.
Seems pretty obvious he isn't.
What? It seems pretty obvious he IS.
So does the Mother. It's just a name. And not even a Tevinter one.
The Awakened Darkspawn don't call him the Architect. They call him the Father.
And corypheus and architect are both greek words, architect has just been coopted into modern english, whereas corypheus has been replaced with conductor.
Wasn't Urthemiel the dragon of love or something like that... He would be "the lover" not the architect in such case.
Urhtemiel was the Dragon of beauty, which you can certainly say an architect strive towards. However, what the dragon represented is not neccesarily what they named themselves after, but rather their role in the ritual. The Architect, may have been the mind behind the ritual.
The Awakened Darkspawn don't call him the Architect. They call him the Father.
No they do not. The Children call him that.
And corypheus and architect are both greek words, architect has just been coopted into modern english, whereas corypheus has been replaced with conductor.
Architect is not a greek word. Arkhitektōn is. If they wanted to use that, they could have easily.
Corypheus means conductor?
Well, encountering him is going to be slightly more humorous this playthrough then.
Wasn't Urthemiel the dragon of love or something like that... He would be "the lover" not the architect in such case.
He was the Dragon of Love and Beauty. An Architect could build beautiful things.
Really, it could be as simple as him being the one that built the structure that would allow them to spill the blood of hundreds of slaves over a ton of lyrium. The name is only the part they played in the ritual.
For instance, Corypheus is the "conductor", meaning, he was probably the one who lead the others through the magic required.
Unless one interprets conductor as in the one leading an orchestra, it is not related to Dumat, the Dragon of Silence.
No they do not. The Children call him that.
Architect is not a greek word. Arkhitektōn is. If they wanted to use that, they could have easily.
Arkhitekton also doesn't sound very cool. Corypheus does.
And again, the Architect significantly predates Corypheus in the development process. It's possible that the decision to use the greek versions of the titles wasn't made until after the Architect's introduction way back in The Calling.
And the amnesia angle works pretty well here; The Architect doesn't remember his pre-darkspawn existence, so perhaps Arkhitekton was his title as a magister and as a darkspawn, he only remembers an echo of it, which he took as his name.
He was the Dragon of Love and Beauty. An Architect could build beautiful things.
Really, it could be as simple as him being the one that built the structure that would allow them to spill the blood of hundreds of slaves over a ton of lyrium. The name is only the part they played in the ritual.
For instance, Corypheus is the "conductor", meaning, he was probably the one who lead the others through the magic required.
Unless one interprets conductor as in the one leading an orchestra, it is not related to Dumat, the Dragon of Silence.
Personally, were I to hazard a guess, I'd peg the Architect as an acolyte of Zazikel. An Architect builds to bring order to chaos, which has the same kind of poetic irony as a conductor of silence.
Archie being a magister is fertile grounds for storytelling that I wish Bioware would exploit. Then again, they've surprised us with Flemeth although fan speculation made it pretty obvious that she was something. It wasn't an Old God or Andraste, but it sure wasn't far from the mark. I'd be very surprised if he didn't make a return or if Bioware flat out refused to answer any questions about him considering the possibilities.
Also part of me hopes that our prayers for a Darkspawn companion will be answered.
Personal theory, Architect is the Magister that was killed and eaten by another. The victorious one ate the Architect's remains to steal his memories (probably through blood magic), so when the Architect respawned he had no idea of who or what he was.
Actually do we have any rough idea of when the Architect's memories begin?
Best guess would be after the first blight given that he remembers awakening in the Deep Roads, presumably after the dwarven empire had fallen. Aside from that, no idea; he makes a point of how little the passage of time really matters underground.
I'm confused about the body jumping. Didn't Cory need the dragon to jump bodies? Or was the dragon just also a backup plan to jump into if there are no wardens nearby?
Cory didn't die, you threw him into the Fade...I've also suspected the Architect was one of the magisters who usurped the Golden City but the architect believes himself to be darkspawn not a magister - unlike Cory - They look so similar tho, perhaps because Cory is half darkspawn himself, but in that case that could still mean the architect is a magister, they both suffer from memory loss and confusion js its possible. We still have DLC to wait for and 2 more DA's so anything can happen I guess lol :/
Yea, but you send him into the fade by opening a rift inside his body, there by tearing him inside out. That'd kill him.
I'm confused about the body jumping. Didn't Cory need the dragon to jump bodies? Or was the dragon just also a backup plan to jump into if there are no wardens nearby?
He never needed the dragon. But the had "enchanted" the dragon with part of himself, mostly because he's dumb and thought "I'll make this dragon look like me because I'm awesome" and for some reason doing that made him vulnerable.
Think of it like the, whatweretheycalled? Crusifix? from Hary Potter; Voldemort.
I imagine the Architect being a dreamer, one whose job was to shape the fade when they arrived.Quite. Perhaps the Architect is the one who actually designed the ritual.
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