Cole has a banter with Blackwall about it, apparently. Not that I've been able to get it to trigger.
That also makes it sound like Josephine is interested in him. Cole wants people to be happy. Why would he encourage Blackwall if she wasn't interested? And he knows what she's thinking, so it's not like it could be a mistake.
Rainier is more a stalker than a courter according to the banter about it. Vivienne even flat out calls him as such, and she is one of those "hurt you with truths" people.
Pure? She's a former Bard from the game who killed a boy she went to school with. Yeah she was sorry after the fact, but she is not innocent or naive.
You know not all bards operate like Marjolaine and Leliana did, yes? She killed one person in both self defense and on accident.
Vivienne is definitely the person to go to if you want a good opinion, and not everybody else, including the boy who can read everybody's minds and knows what's up, or even the person in question who is being "stalked".
Vivienne is definitely the person to go to if you want a good opinion, and not everybody else, including the boy who can read everybody's minds and knows what's up, or even the person in question who is being "stalked".
Yes, the same Cole who talks about how Rainier likes to imagine what Josephine would look and feel like under her dress while staring at her from a distance. There is nothing stalker-like about that at all.
Rainier is more a stalker than a courter according to the banter about it. Vivienne even flat out calls him as such, and she is one of those "hurt you with truths" people.
You know not all bards operate like Marjolaine and Leliana did, yes? She killed one person in both self defense and on accident.
Has she killed? Did she willing take part in the game knowing full well what it was? She had no remorse or regret in the least about hustling Cullen.
She can be reformed, she can sit behind a desk in all the puffyness that she wants..but unless she gets re-educated she is not innocent or naive, she's just choosing not to be a part of it anymore.
He does start climbing a mountain once every week to get flowers and she fully knows where the flowers come from, so I wouldn't say it is "nothing." It just is not a physical relationship. It is all very Orleasian.No, they don't hook up. Nothing ever happens between them.
Yes, the same Cole who talks about how Rainier likes to imagine what Josephine would look and feel like under her dress while staring at her from a distance. There is nothing stalker-like about that at all.
Yes, the same Cole who tells Blackwall that he should pursue Josephine because he knows that she's actually interested in him.
Yes, the same Cole who talks about how Rainier likes to imagine what Josephine would look and feel like under her dress while staring at her from a distance. There is nothing stalker-like about that at all.
C'mon, you can't fault Blackwall for that. That's pretty much what anyone is thinking if they're attracted to someone; it's just that most people don't have some creepy spirit dude airing all their stuff out for everyone to see.
Has she killed? Did she willing take part in the game knowing full well what it was? She had no remorse or regret in the least about hustling Cullen.
She can be reformed, she can sit behind a desk in all the puffyness that she wants..but unless she gets re-educated she is not innocent or naive, she's just choosing not to be a part of it anymore.
I don't consider causing someone to die by accident while defending yourself from being killed by that person as 'killed', no.
She didn't know what it was really like. She had a romanticized vision of it but when she began she realized it wasn't what she thought it was.
Why would she feel remorse by Cullen losing his clothes when he agreed to gamble them?
Um, what are you referring to by using such terms as 'reformed' and 're-educated'?
He does start climbing a mountain once every week to get flowers and she fully knows where the flowers come from, so I wouldn't say it is "nothing." It just is not a physical relationship. It is all very Orleasian.
Fair enough. I meant nothing physical happens between them. Like I said earlier, it is like the Carver/Merrill or Bethany/Sebastian pairings. One or both like the other, but nothing physical happens.
Yes, the same Cole who tells Blackwall that he should pursue Josephine because he knows that she's actually interested in him.
He never tells him he should pursue it. He just says he should know what Josephine thinks of him. Remember, this is the same Cole who has no idea what sex is or why people do it. He's not going to be a matchmaker.
C'mon, you can't fault Blackwall for that. That's pretty much what anyone is thinking if they're attracted to someone; it's just that most people don't have some creepy spirit dude airing all their stuff out for everyone to see.
Sure I can. It's his thoughts. Someone else didn't insert them into his mind. Thus I can fault him for those thoughts. And I'd say the same of anyone else who has those thoughts.
Yes, the same Cole who talks about how Rainier likes to imagine what Josephine would look and feel like under her dress while staring at her from a distance. There is nothing stalker-like about that at all.
Can anyone tell me where in that video is the talk about Josie?
He never tells him he should pursue it. He just says he should know what Josephine thinks of him. Remember, this is the same Cole who has no idea what sex is or why people do it. He's not going to be a matchmaker.
We know that Cole encourages people to make their feelings known for each other when it's mutual. We see him do this several times in the game. Including in his personal quest where he does it more than once. He's doing it here too. He's asking if he thinks he's going to speak to Josephine and thinks he should know what she thinks of him. It's clear given what we know about Cole that this means that she's interested in him back.
Sure I can. It's his thoughts. Someone else didn't insert them into his mind. Thus I can fault him for those thoughts. And I'd say the same of anyone else who has those thoughts.
What's to "fault"? He's thinking about the person who is attracted to. Nothing to fault there.
Josephine and Rainier.
Probably. I think it was purposely left ambiguous.
Pure? She's a former Bard from the game who killed a boy she went to school with. Yeah she was sorry after the fact, but she is not innocent or naive.
You can be pure without being innocent or naive.
We know that Cole encourages people to make their feelings known for each other when it's mutual. We see him do this several times in the game. Including in his personal quest where he does it more than once. He's doing it here too. He's asking if he thinks he's going to speak to Josephine and thinks he should know what she thinks of him. It's clear given what we know about Cole that this means that she's interested in him back.
When does he do it during his personal quest?
What's to "fault"? He's thinking about the person who is attracted to. Nothing to fault there.
That is a bit puritan. Wondering how the person you're crushing looks naked, how it would be to kiss them , etc isn't stalking. It's a normal occurance and they were private thoughts that just happened to be made public.
If you're attracted to someone, it's perfectly normal to fantasize about things like that.
According to Cole Rainier wonders, and I quote: "Sweet, soft, silky. Her dress, and also under her dress."
So he is literally imagining what she feels like under her dress. That is tantamount to going "I wonder what her boobs feel like?" for example. If said out loud, that is a sexual harassment charge. So why should thoughts be treated different than words, since thoughts are just expressions or words you keep to yourself?
Probably. I think it was purposely left ambiguous.
Not really. I got the whole "No relationship forms" thing from someone who worked on the character after I asked about it.
Sure I can. It's his thoughts. Someone else didn't insert them into his mind. Thus I can fault him for those thoughts. And I'd say the same of anyone else who has those thoughts.
This is ridiculous. What exactly is there to fault? Sexual attraction is far beyond anyone's ability to control; the only thing that matters is how you react to these feelings. Unless you're totally devoid of any sexuality, you yourself have these same kinds of thoughts, and there's nothing you can do about them, all you can do is show discretion in what you say and how you behave. If anyone's at fault, it would be the Inquisitor for allowing Cole to stick around, despite his rather invasive ability to sift through people's inner thoughts and then blab them to everyone.
The way we think is not the way we sit and write a journal. These thoughts manifest themselves spontaneously in our minds and we can't erase them.
Mmmmmmm… nope. Not as cute as Dorian and Iron Bull.
How would that even look? So mis-match.
Not really. I got the whole "No relationship forms" thing from someone who worked on the character after I asked about it.
Bummer. I liked the idea of it being ambiguous.
How would that even look? So mis-match.
Somehow they manage.
When does he do it during his personal quest?
If you encourage him to be more spirit like, you go to an inn in Orlais with him. He disappears and reappears several times around the inn encouraging people with his words. On at least one of those, confident, and I think two of them, they were about unrequited love or a romantic relationship. One, specifically, was something to the effect of, "You wonder if she feels the same about you. You should talk to her because she does....." Or something to that effect. It's totally Cole's M.O. to try to make people happy. I cannot imagine any other reason for him to ask Blackwall if he's going to pursue her and then tell him that he should hear what she thinks if he wasn't encouraging him. And, given that we know that he knows what she's thinking, it's because she's interested back. I can't imagine any other way to interpret that scene.
According to Cole Rainier wonders, and I quote: "Sweet, soft, silky. Her dress, and also under her dress."
So he is literally imagining what she feels like under her dress. That is tantamount to going "I wonder what her boobs feel like?" for example. If said out loud, that is a sexual harassment charge. So why should thoughts be treated different than words, since thoughts are just expressions or words you keep to yourself?
I'm not really sure how to respond to this. If you are insinuating that simply thinking about someone in a sexual way is the equivalent of harassment, then I'm just dumbstruck. Seriously.
Not really. I got the whole "No relationship forms" thing from someone who worked on the character after I asked about it.
"No relationship forms" is not the same thing as "Josephine is uninterested in Blackwall". You seem to be interpreting the former as the latter.
According to Cole Rainier wonders, and I quote: "Sweet, soft, silky. Her dress, and also under her dress."
So he is literally imagining what she feels like under her dress. That is tantamount to going "I wonder what her boobs feel like?" for example. If said out loud, that is a sexual harassment charge. So why should thoughts be treated different than words, since thoughts are just expressions or words you keep to yourself?
"No relationship forms" is not the same thing as "Josephine is uninterested in Blackwall". You seem to be interpreting the former as the latter.
Actually... Josephine IS interested in Blackwall. Like a lot. How do I know that? Well... After hearing one of these conversation, Inquistor can talk with Josephine about that. And I think there is a way to brought them together, but only if Blackwall is freed.
According to Cole Rainier wonders, and I quote: "Sweet, soft, silky. Her dress, and also under her dress."
So he is literally imagining what she feels like under her dress. That is tantamount to going "I wonder what her boobs feel like?" for example. If said out loud, that is a sexual harassment charge. So why should thoughts be treated different than words, since thoughts are just expressions or words you keep to yourself?
If said out loud, absolutely.
But it's not. It's just a thought, kept to himself and not acted upon. It's a harmless fantasy. The same as any number of people think when they see someone they are attracted to. And talking to Blackwall, it seems his attraction to her is more than simply physical anyway.
It's actually kind of sad for him, as the shame of his past may very well be what's keeping him from talking to Josephine.
If none of us every thought about what another might be like in a sensual, sexual way, the species would not ever propagate. You only get together with a significant other because you feel attracted to them and with that attraction comes those sensual thoughts. It's part of what your pheromones and hormones do to you. Part of being human is learning how to control those thoughts and urges and how they manifest in your actual behavior to everyone else. When thoughts and urges become action is when the boundaries can be crossed. Everything else is your own private world ... unless you have someone like Cole to air them for you.
I think Blackwall and Josie is rather cute. Definitely got the feeling that she was interested as well. I like to imagine that they start seeing each other after the game. Josie likes to take things slow, so it makes sense that not much happens initially.
I don't consider causing someone to die by accident while defending yourself from being killed by that person as 'killed', no.
She didn't know what it was really like. She had a romanticized vision of it but when she began she realized it wasn't what she thought it was.
Why would she feel remorse by Cullen losing his clothes when he agreed to gamble them?
Um, what are you referring to by using such terms as 'reformed' and 're-educated'?
Fair enough. I meant nothing physical happens between them. Like I said earlier, it is like the Carver/Merrill or Bethany/Sebastian pairings. One or both like the other, but nothing physical happens.
He never tells him he should pursue it. He just says he should know what Josephine thinks of him. Remember, this is the same Cole who has no idea what sex is or why people do it. He's not going to be a matchmaker.
Sure I can. It's his thoughts. Someone else didn't insert them into his mind. Thus I can fault him for those thoughts. And I'd say the same of anyone else who has those thoughts.
So....you've never had pervy thoughts about ANYONE???? Ever?
Man.
Can't be faulted for the thinking, only the action. (And if it's a welcomed action, can't fault that either.)
Otherwsie you're getting into Thought Police territory.
And if that's the case.....I'd better turn myself in to the Puritans now.
So hoping to see Blackwall/Josie and Dorian/IB related banters in this playthrough.
Actually... Josephine IS interested in Blackwall. Like a lot. How do I know that? Well... After hearing one of these conversation, Inquistor can talk with Josephine about that. And I think there is a way to brought them together, but only if Blackwall is freed.
Woah, really? This is so disappointing! I have the banter bug, and I can't get these dialogues to unlock! Augh! Can't wait for them to fix this so I can do another play through and set these two up.
Does anyone have like, a video of this maybe? People record the darndest things and I'd love to see it.
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