Sorry, but I have to blow off some steam right now... I just fought Kaltenzahn for like 15 or 20 minutes, he is REALLY annoying after he is half dead, summoning all his Dragonlings all the time and stunning you and and and... and then finally YEAH he is dead. BUT - NO HE ISN'T!!! He stays at 0 life, won't move, won't die... thx for this bug, Bioware... 
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anyone had similar experience or did I just have some REALLY bad luck?
Just experienced this bug myself, apparently it's not specific to Kaltenzahn but can happen on any of the dragon fights... considering how long it takes to kill each dragon, this is just about the last place you'd want a glitch like this to occur. Would very much appreciate a fix or workaround.
I had the same thing happen with a giant in the Western Approach, but never with a dragon.Sorry, but I have to blow off some steam right now... I just fought Kaltenzahn for like 15 or 20 minutes, he is REALLY annoying after he is half dead, summoning all his Dragonlings all the time and stunning you and and and... and then finally YEAH he is dead. BUT - NO HE ISN'T!!! He stays at 0 life, won't move, won't die... thx for this bug, Bioware...
anyone had similar experience or did I just have some REALLY bad luck?
It took me a long, long time (as in I wish it was only 15 or 20 minutes. Guess I didn't have the optimum party) and I finally killed it. But. I. can't. loot. the. body. Yep, the body is well below the surface of the roof. I can ping it and that's all. There are also 3 or 4 dragonlings I can't loot because they are also under the roof or fell outside the colonnade perimeter/walk path. Any idea what I'm supposed to get and if there is a way to use the console somehow? I would rather not replay that fight.
That's my vent for the day.
What build are you useing and what team up?
Me? No warriors. My Inquisitor is a rogue archer and I had Varric with me, as well as Dorian and Vivienne, both equipped with fire staffs. Levels are 19-20, so maybe a little underpowered. Viv and Dor both have revival. I kept Dorian (stronger revival) just behind the rocks so he couldn't get ice blasted. When people died out of reach the poor guy had to run all the way downstairs so the dead could follow him. Kind of funny, actually. He could even fight the beast from down there, but then it would have been a really long fight.
I would definitly have a tank unless you control viv and tank her spirt blade, and are you dragon hunting or clearing an area before you move on to the next?
For dragon hunting i like to take blackwall, cass, and The Iron Dragon!!!.. i mean Bull!!! when im a mage or rouge, keeps the dragon off you or else if im clearing an area i just go for it with whatever party to see if its any harder
I had highlands ravager doing some awsome head banging had to throw on some death metal lmao
He looked like some crazies ive seen in mosh pits
This happened to me once with one of the Emprise du Lion dragons. Had to reload and kill it all over again, and it died properly this time. It wasn't that much of a problem for me tbh... I play as a Knight Enchanter and gave myself, Varric, Dorian and Bull fade-touched (the +5 guard on hit one) silverite medium/heavy armor, so we were pretty much all unkillable anyway.
I had already killed the other two Emprise dragons plus the one in the Storm Coast in under an hour so meh... it was annoying but I didn't rage over it. It would have been worse had it happened before my Knight Enchanter days
I personally didn't experience this bug, but 2 of the 10 high dragons went invisible before dying, had to kill them by spamming melee attacks where they were last seen 
Btw my party was Cass, Vivienne, Varric, tempest archer. In the late game I gave them all a gear piece with +5 guard on hit, used the appropriate resist potion and all the dragon fights were a breeze. I was controlling Vivienne, the rest was set to just autoattacks and buffs. If it was a dragon with weakness against fire, it died ridiculously fast (15k+ crits with Fire Mine).
But if someone wants to make the fights easier, use tempest's Thousand Cuts with assassin's Mark of Doom. I was doing some testing on nightmare on the last dragon (lvl 23), I myself was lvl 24. When I buffed my archer with everything I could think of, taunted the dragon with Cass, applied Mark of Doom, the dragon died just from the Thousand Cuts. That is 315k HP instagibbed. When I forgot one buff I had the time to detonate Mark of Doom... for 300k dmg.
Sorry, but I have to blow off some steam right now... I just fought Kaltenzahn for like 15 or 20 minutes, he is REALLY annoying after he is half dead, summoning all his Dragonlings all the time and stunning you and and and... and then finally YEAH he is dead. BUT - NO HE ISN'T!!! He stays at 0 life, won't move, won't die... thx for this bug, Bioware...
anyone had similar experience or did I just have some REALLY bad luck?
...because people were able to beat them pretty easily. Idk just a theory I suppose
Well they still can because BW sucks at balancing, always has. One KE can just lighstaber the dragons to death. Or you can IK the dragons if you wish you. Though I would advice against IKing them, they after all offer the best fights in the entire game.
In games where you could save during fights you usually could resolve this with a quick reload.
This is why I am not happy when games don't let you make a save during combats. You know, sometimes a bug triggers... or a crash suddenly happens...
In games where you could save during fights you usually could resolve this with a quick reload.
This is why I am not happy when games don't let you make a save during combats. You know, sometimes a bug triggers... or a crash suddenly happens...
IIRC no BW game has ever allowed this and I would prefer it stays that way. The game is already easy enough as is, especially DAI, where you can always just instagib your enemies if the fight bugs out and you would have to repeat it again. (or you know, instagib them all the time if you feel like it)
I had the same thing happen with a giant in the Western Approach, but never with a dragon.
same here
So do I need to Ally with the elves and later I will get to chance to drink from the well? Or do I need to take the we may need that well option?
Are you dual-wielding? Because you have not only necromanced a thread, but also posted a completely non-topic post at the same time. 
When my game was glitching on some of the giant fights and not letting me loot them, I went to a different area of the map - saved the game, turned it off, reloaded and went back and was able to pick up the loot.... this however doesn't always work and is not an ideal solution. >_<
It took me a long, long time (as in I wish it was only 15 or 20 minutes. Guess I didn't have the optimum party) and I finally killed it. But. I. can't. loot. the. body. Yep, the body is well below the surface of the roof. I can ping it and that's all. There are also 3 or 4 dragonlings I can't loot because they are also under the roof or fell outside the colonnade perimeter/walk path. Any idea what I'm supposed to get and if there is a way to use the console somehow? I would rather not replay that fight.
That's my vent for the day.
Have you tried highlighting and pressing f on the keyboard if you are on A PC.
Have you tried highlighting and pressing f on the keyboard if you are on A PC.
I appreciate the suggestion.
I ended up replaying the battle. More than once actually; what I discovered is that if you kill the dragon on different parts of the periphery instead of the main battlefield it can end up below the accessible surface. It doesn't matter how much you ping or use the interact key, or if you use the tactical camera. There've been some patches since then, so maybe this issue has been fixed. In more recent playthroughs I just make sure that when the fight gets close to the end my people are better placed.
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