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sirdario1986

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I was wondering what is the best mage stuff you can buy or craft.

 

I found the schematic for a very good staff, but for unknown reasons one of the materials will add Dexterity or Cunning, which is quite a nonsense to me.

 

Currently I'm using a Staff of the Void, which I got from a dragon loot, 66 electricity base damage and a 188dps with a superb demons rune.



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BroBear Berbil

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Seer Staff is the best schematic I've come across. 2 offensive leather slots and 1 offensive cloth slot.

 

Unfortunately it's really ugly though. The staff head is like a cat's skull.



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Bladenite1481

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Archmage has the highest attack chance, Seers and First Enchanter have the highest DPS, I have not checked out Sentinel which is another tier 3, its lower rung though..I used Archmage because of all the attack slots..lots of attack and crit chance with that one 



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sirdario1986

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Uhm, I may have the first enchanter one then, I bought the schematic from a vendor at EL.
Where can I find archmage or seer ones?

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I just found The Magister Fire Staff in the "In Hushed Whispers" quest. Anyone else have this staff? I'm only level 7, but it's 52 DPS and has a 50% chance to trigger immoliate.



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sirdario1986

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I just found The Magister Fire Staff in the "In Hushed Whispers" quest. Anyone else have this staff? I'm only level 7, but it's 52 DPS and has a 50% chance to trigger immoliate.


You'll definitely find better staves!

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I found the schematic for a very good staff, but for unknown reasons one of the materials will add Dexterity or Cunning, which is quite a nonsense to me.

 

Cunning actualy isnt nonsense, its a great stat to have since it increases your critical chance(especialy good if you play with fire passive that gives you nocd on cast whenever you crit)


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SpaceV3gan

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Good topic. Staves seem to be much behind other weapons in terms of damage (which is understandable) and also in upgrades.
I've only decide to play Emprise du Lion at level 20 and I got my current, and best staff schematic I've come across right there. The First Enchanter one. Before it I had been using loot staves, for tens of hours. It feels nice to have a crafted 'homemade' one now. But sadly it seems like I won't find any schematic upgrade above it.
For some reason I can't progress in the Iron Bull/Tallis' quests, so I might not get the Masterwork Archon schematic.



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Pi2r Epsilon

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  1. You can't buy ANY good staves*. Every staff that is for sale is inferior to something you can craft with easily available materials if you have the relevant schematic. The same goes for every staff you'll ever find or get as a quest reward, though at least during the early- and mid-game some of the purple staves you find/are rewarded will be better than what you can craft at the time because they use T2/T3 schematics while you are in T1/T2. (In fact, if you don't visit the T3 staff vendor until the end of the game and get the other T3 schematics either, you might be using the early quest reward Tyrdda's Staff and the Hinterlands dragon's Grand Enchanter staff through most of the game. :D)
  2. The best craftable staff depends on your ability build. The top three schematics are Superior Archon (war table mission, requires the Charges to die), Seer (random drop), and First Enchanter (available for purchase in Emprise du Lion), and which of these is best depends entirely on your needs.
  3. The Superior Archon Staff has 22 metal damage, 6 cloth utility (willpower, magic), 8 cloth offense (heal on kill, barrier damage, attack, crit damage), and 6 utility metal (strength, constitution) - this is a solid all round staff that is good for stacking attack percentage, and you can get it for free with the right mission choice.
  4. The First Enchanter staff has 22 metal damage, 6 leather utility (dexterity, cunning), 6 leather offense (crit, crit damage, flanking bonus, chance to bleed, armour penetration), and 6 cloth offense (heal on kill, barrier damage, attack, crit damage) - this is a staff that is good for crits as all the 12 leather slots grant it and you can get the schematic for a few thousand gold.
  5. The Seer Staff has 22 metal damage, 2x6 leather offense (crit, crit damage, flanking bonus, chance to bleed, armour penetration), and 6 cloth offense (heal on kill, barrier damage, attack, crit damage) - this is the staff that is best for crits as the 6 leather utility slots from First Enchanter have been replaced with 6 leather offense slots, and you get more crit% from crit%-materials than from cunning-materials, but acquiring it is at the mercy of the RNG.
  6. If you are a Rift Mage, go crit or go home. Rift Mages are often cooldown limited rather than mana limited, and stacking crit with flashpoint is the way to get around that for all Rift Mages regardless of what the rest of their build is, so for Rift Mages Seer > First Enchanter > Superior Archon. End of story.
  7. For other mages it depends on their spec. Just how important is crit% when compared to attack% for the spec?Are the extra hitpoints from the Archon staff important? Do you have an artificer rogue in the group that benefits from the other group members critting?
  8. As a simple rule of thumb, if your spec does not have flashpoint, then it is probably the case that Superior Archon > Seer > First Enchanter. If it does have flashpoint, well, that's when you need to really think the situation through.

 

* The same goes for all other weapons and all armour that is for sale in shops. NONE of it is as good as what you can craft, so long as you have a comparable tier schematic. The only thing you should ever need to buy from shops related to armour and weapons are schematics.


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You are over complicating it. Seer Staff is the best for every build because it has no wasted slots. Utility slots are garbage, and Seer Staff, unlike every other T3 schematic, has 3 offensive slots.

 

Archmage Staff could have competed (2 metal and 1 leather offense slots), but it inexplicably behind by 10% natural damage due to being a 20 metal slot schematic, so it works out to basically being a 2 slotter, i.e.1  metal and leather. Archon has 2 utility slots, which puts it behind on damage compared to Seer because you are working with 1.5 slots worth of damage boosting.


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Magma_Axis

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Which tier 3 chest that most likely have Seer Staff ? I found one early but the best i can get is Archmage Staff

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sirdario1986

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Woah, thanks guys, now it's all clear!

 

I'll build a good First Enchanter one and I'll look for the other 2!