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Patch 3 is supposed to address quite a few things in the PC front. This "fix" will take time because of the console design. Any change in controls may have serious negative collateral effects.. ie: breaking the console controls.
Are paying customers getting a patch 3 to fix the party banter bug, UI issues and the multitude of other bugs? Or is this game done "as is" and in my case never to be played?
Woooow. It's it has been a month already. 8th week after the release. I want to move to Canada! They have holidays break sooo looong.
Still no news. Someone in the PR department must have truly adorsed caved in tactic, probably because of that WWI game that people were playing lately.
Someone in the PR department must have truly adorsed caved in tactic, probably because of that WWI game that people were playing lately.
and in English, this translates to....?
I dunno, I'm just astonished he's complaining about something besides male elf arms.
and in English, this translates to....?
Meditate on this.
How exactly would any change in the PC controls break, or affect at all, the console controls?
They're totally seperate systems.
Three AMD platforms, yes. However, I suspect because it's the same hardware, the data structures would be common for all three with only one source code for the game.
For example:
At compile time you can pass compile time parameters to the compiller via macro directives such as "&compile=PC". This will generate the PC executable. A compile directive &compile=PS4 will generate the executable for the PS4.
However, the game source itself has many common data structures. Changing or adding KB control elements automatically changes the data structure for all three platforms, which may cause problems. BIO has no choice but to QA the changes on all three platforms to ensure you don't fix one and create another.
Which is why I am unsurprised at the length of time it takes to do fixes and PC UI improvements.
EDIT: Oh, and there is something called version control. Because team1 works on XB1 and team 2 works on PS4.. etc and because of common data structures you certainly want control and approve who is doing what and when.
In other words, you can't make simultaneous changes compile and test. If you do it this way, you have a nightmare on your hands. Elementary diagnostic procedures is the ability to control the test and be able to reproduce it. The "fix" must be tested on all platforms.... Look at recent Microsoft or McCafee... they shoved a fix out there and caused chaos...
Are paying customers getting a patch 3 to fix the party banter bug, UI issues and the multitude of other bugs? Or is this game done "as is" and in my case never to be played?
"..Banter bug" still out there?
I never encoutered this with my three characters.
Three AMD platforms, yes. However, I suspect because it's the same hardware, the data structures would be common for all three with only one source code for the game.
For example:
At compile time you can pass compile time parameters to the compiller via macro directives such as "&compile=PC". This will generate the PC executable. A compile directive &compile=PS4 will generate the executable for the PS4.
However, the game source itself has many common data structures. Changing or adding KB control elements automatically changes the data structure for all three platforms, which may cause problems. BIO has no choice but to QA the changes on all three platforms to ensure you don't fix one and create another.
Which is why I am unsurprised at the length of time it takes to do fixes and PC UI improvements.
EDIT: Oh, and there is something called version control. Because team1 works on XB1 and team 2 works on PS4.. etc and because of common data structures you certainly want control and approve who is doing what and when.
In other words, you can't make simultaneous changes compile and test. If you do it this way, you have a nightmare on your hands. Elementary diagnostic procedures is the ability to control the test and be able to reproduce it. The "fix" must be tested on all platforms.... Look at recent Microsoft or McCafee... they shoved a fix out there and caused chaos...
What I don't understand is why there's this excuse being thrown around that Bioware CAN'T just "patch the game" because they can only do so many releases/patches, etcetera. Why is there a limit on patches for a PC game? You want to throttle console patches? Do that. If this is a PC game, fix it and immediately release said fix. The problems are going to be different and so are the teams independantly working on said fixes for each platform regardless.
The state of the game and the refusal to fix it baffles me.
Why is there a limit on patches for a PC game?
Because each Patch costs money. And EA is NOT keen on spending a single cent more than absolutely necessary.
Because each Patch costs money. And EA is NOT keen on spending a single cent more than absolutely necessary.
Hell, they didn't spend enough to get it done right in the first place!
I don't know what their budget was, but judging from the product there's got to be enough of that money left for patches.
If not, somebody needs to be called to account for wasting a whole lot of $$$.
Edit:
Man, that must have been some year-end party at BiowEAre ...
I'm beginning to wonder if it's a new EA money making policy.
Release game and initial game patch.
Create one patch to make the game playable (just playable) for the majority of customers.
Move on to next project, let the community fix the game ... it doesn't cost us a cent.
The attitude of the lead developers has been very reassuring when it comes to patches for this game, saying that they are going to support, maintain and patch this game for a long time to come.
There's no "limit" on patches, no hard limit anyway indicated.
You have one of the most joyful personalities while simultaneously being extremely condescending and rude.
The contrast is amazing.
Oh seriously f... off. Go make a sushi or something with a fake Tempest dagger you will happily preorder on Eaware's goodies shop, a marvelous shop that you can access on Origin.
You are a troll and a fanboy.
With what happened in France, my beloved country, last week, I simply have no patience left for easily manipulated people and people who blow on embers for their own amusement.
Oh seriously f... off. Go make a sushi or something with a fake Tempest dagger you will happily preorder on Eaware's goodies shop, a marvelous shop that you can access on Origin.
You are a troll and a fanboy.
With what happened in France, my beloved country, last week, I simply have no patience left for easily manipulated people and people who blow on embers for their own amusement.
dont use this to justify to be a dick! you want to make people with other opinions quiet and insult them and use what happened in france as an excuse? you small minded stupid jerk
does every discussion here must lead to calling people dicks/jerks?
/sigh
if combat was more tactical/challenging on higher difficulties, would that be such a bad thing? you could still play on normal/casual and have fun. other people (masochists) would have a blast with it on NM and wouldn't ridicule the game for the combat
Because each Patch costs money. And EA is NOT keen on spending a single cent more than absolutely necessary.
Hmn.. Yet moders can make patches/fixes/mods for free, especially when they have access to SDK..
Nothing good ever come out of Canada and this company reflect that.
Regarding EA people should boycott every game they put out so they will understand they cant treat costumers like this.
Let them learn the hard way I say.
Nothing good ever come out of Canada and this company reflect that.
Regarding EA people should boycott every game they put out so they will understand they cant treat costumers like this.
Let them learn the hard way I say.
Baldur's Gate series and Mass Effect series are among the top of my all time favourite games. Dragon Age...not so much. Didn't complete the first game, hardly played the second, but have logged over a 100 hours in Inquisition. Just sayin' to reflect a little nuance in the doom n' gloom of this thread.
The attitude of the lead developers has been very reassuring when it comes to patches for this game, saying that they are going to support, maintain and patch this game for a long time to come.
There's no "limit" on patches, no hard limit anyway indicated.
Remember that these are the same developers that assured us the same things about "Origins" and "#2", and told us that "Inquisition" was "made for PC gamers by PC gamers" and that it was "going back to it's roots".
>gag<
Where are they? Here in the discussions raging on their own forum?
No, they are on other social media patting themselves on the back.
No, their attitude so far is not reassuring at all.
does every discussion here must lead to calling people dicks/jerks?
/sigh
Yes It have to lead to verbal violence we are animals after all:).
Remember that these are the same developers that assured us the same things about "Origins" and "#2", and told us that "Inquisition" was "made for PC gamers by PC gamers" and that it was "going back to it's roots".
They doing that becouse Majority of mindless players still preordering the damn games just to cry on the forums later and wait long time for a patch making some idiotic theories. And after they finally finish the game they will preorder next game from the same studio. EA is treating gamers like idiots couse they are idiots.
https://twitter.com/...954494053371904
Patching is slowed down by holidays on all fronts
8:40 AM - 10 Jan 2015
Pretty much what we all knew. Would have been cool with someone informing about it in this thread too through.
https://twitter.com/...954494053371904
Patching is slowed down by holidays on all fronts
8:40 AM - 10 Jan 2015
Pretty much what we all knew. Would have been cool with someone informing about it in this thread too through.
Just what I have said. I wish to move to Canada. They do holiday-hard there!
For some reason, they could not visit this place and write an update, nope.
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