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[BammBamm]

https://twitter.com/...954494053371904

 

 

Mike Laidlaw

Patching is slowed down by holidays on all fronts

 

8:40 AM - 10 Jan 2015

 

 

 

this one makes even me angry. you decided to release the game before holidays (to grab a little more money). and than the product have problems like some people cant even play it and you just say, **** it we go on holiday for 2 weeks? hell i got jobs that earned a lot less money than a software developer and got no winter holidays when **** hits the fan. and there is no sense of something could be wrong with this behaviour, this is just a really really bad attitude and alone for this i will not pay the full price for bioware games anymore (and i have no problems with da:i). vote with the wallet and this one is a downvote

[Amplitudelol]

this one makes even me angry. you decided to release the game before holidays (to grab a little more money). and than the product have problems like some people cant even play it and you just say, **** it we go on holiday for 2 weeks? hell i got jobs that earned a lot less money than a software developer and got no winter holidays when **** hits the fan. and there is no sense of something could be wrong with this behaviour, this is just a really really bad attitude

 

Actually **** hitting the fan is not that dramatic. Dont believe me? Check out Mythbusters:

http://www.discovery...fan-high-speed/

[BammBamm]

Actually **** hitting the fan is not that dramatic. Dont believe me? Check out Mythbusters:

http://www.discovery...fan-high-speed/

 

damn, really expected more out of it

[Tsunami Chef]

this one makes even me angry. you decided to release the game before holidays (to grab a little more money). and than the product have problems like some people cant even play it and you just say, **** it we go on holiday for 2 weeks? hell i got jobs that earned a lot less money than a software developer and got no winter holidays when **** hits the fan. and there is no sense of something could be wrong with this behaviour, this is just a really really bad attitude and alone for this i will not pay the full price for bioware games anymore (and i have no problems with da:i). vote with the wallet and this one is a downvote

I agree....How long is a holiday at bioware?

 

The worst part is it seems like he's being intentionally vague...which therefor seems like we're not getting a patch anytime soon since I think he'd opt for the more positive answer if it was possible.

[BammBamm]

I agree....How long is a holiday at bioware?

 

The worst part is it seems like he's being intentionally vague...which therefor seems like we're not getting a patch anytime soon since I think he'd opt for the more positive answer if it was possible.

 

yeah sounds so. i really could handle the silence (even understand it) but everytime i hear something from this laidlaw or this other guy from their beloved twitter i just think "oh shut up". they are just so disconnected to reality it hurts. these two guys are a PR desaster, somebody have to stop them

[Ashen Nedra]

dont use this to justify to be a dick! you want to make people with other opinions quiet and insult them and use what happened in france as an excuse? you small minded stupid jerk

 

 

Who is insulting whom, dear Bammbamm? Read my posts and his carefully again maybe?

 

This guy has been subtly trolling the thread for at least 4 months.

 

Also, I would ask you to kindly refrain from using this sort of language with me ever again.

[zeypher]

Wait then DO NOT release your game during holidays if you are not going to be there to support it. Release it in summer, oh this really rubs me the wrong way. SO basically every EA game during holidays i will wait to get it 2 months later so atleast patches will be out. Lesson learned. 

[Essorance]

https://twitter.com/...954494053371904

 

 

Mike Laidlaw

Patching is slowed down by holidays on all fronts

 

8:40 AM - 10 Jan 2015

 

He makes a good point, Christmas only just ended 3 weeks ago. New years (Of which one of those days is classified as a holiday in UK) was 2 weeks ago. We got valentine's day coming up so might as well remove all of February. Then March and April, who can ever remember when Easter Sunday is? Start of March? Beginning of April? Just take those two months out altogether to be safe.Then it's May, so let's see uhhh.. Mayday? Yeah. Better cancel any work in May just to err on the side of caution. Then of course we got Summer holidays! Get hype guys! Don't expect any patch details in June, July or August. Then it's September, and hopefully by then you guys will be either:

 

A ) Playing a different game

B ) Only caring about purchasing platinum to enhance your awesome multiplayer experience anyway

 

....

 

This guy is a joke. Not even any details on what to expect or when to expect. You know what, any decent guy would have given some, ANY, kind of detail. He's like "Nothing has been done cos of X". Yeah Mike, no shet, we fkn got that much. I know you think we're all a bunch of monkeys but the fact you guys have done pretty much fk all besides give us a patch which caused more problems than it fixed and then shut your collective mouths for over a month kinda gave it away, dontcha think?

 

Forget giving DAI Game of the Year 2014, give this cretin a Joke of the Year award 2014. Biggest joke I've ever heard. I woulda continued to give BW the benefit of the doubt. I would have (possibly) bought a DAI DLC and future titles of the BW franchises but fk it I can't be bothered anymore. Another dev for me to be blacklist out of principle by doing nothing but look to screw their consumer as hard as possible only after emptied all they can from their wallets. Biggest fall from grace in recent years for a gaming company imo.

[slayergrim]

I've sadly been burned out before game was ever patched, so sad.

[DarkAmaranth1966]

I agree that he should have added something like "So, we should be rolling out patches for our games this spring." At least we'd know they were trying to get it done before June, that's better than having to guess entirely. I still expect another patch in March or April, perhaps another hotfix for February. I don't expect SP DLC before June, something for the kids on summer break perhaps.

[Danoniero]

This guy is a joke. Not even any details on what to expect or when to expect. You know what, any decent guy would have given some, ANY, kind of detail. He's like "Nothing has been done cos of X". Yeah Mike, no shet, we fkn got that much. I know you think we're all a bunch of monkeys but the fact you guys have done pretty much fk all besides give us a patch which caused more problems than it fixed and then shut your collective mouths for over a month kinda gave it away, dontcha think?

 

He is probably a decent guy but probably another not so decent guy in the suit with EA PR trademark on his shoulder said to him to shut up or he will be forced to look for another job. Its not Bioware anymore, whoever thinks that is naive, Bioware just doing what EA tells them how people can not understand that. EA is publisher, they set the rules how game looks like, how many patches they can afford and at what speed fixes should be dealt with.

[KilrB]

Nothing good ever come out of Canada and this company reflect that.

 

Regarding EA people should boycott every game they put out so they will understand they cant treat costumers like this.

 

Let them learn the hard way I say.

 

Can't agree with you there.

 

A lot of good games came out of BioWare up until 2010.

 

And as far as Canada goes:

 

Gordon Lightfoot

Bruce Cockburn

The Guess Who

Niel Young

Rush

Bachman-Turner Overdrive

Triumph

Frank Marino

Aldo Nova

Tommy Chong

Leonard Cohen

 

... etc., etc.

[BammBamm]

He is probably a decent guy but probably another not so decent guy in the suit with EA PR trademark on his shoulder said to him to shut up or he will be forced to look for another job. Its not Bioware anymore, whoever thinks that is naive, Bioware just doing what EA tells them how people can not understand that. EA is publisher, they set the rules how game looks like, how many patches they can afford and at what speed fixes should be dealt with.

 

they are doing this for a long time now.

people complain about pc controls and lzy console port - still continue playing the game EVERYTIME with a controler.

people complain about controler optimized menues - denying it

people complain about no communication - celebration of goty awards on twitter

people complain about no patch - sure there is no patch we were in holiday.

 

to be honest, this is really disrespectfull to the customers at best. every single hot fix and workaround came from people and they didnt even managed it to collect them in a thread. there are people that cant play the game 2 month(!!!) after release, even better people that cant play the game after patch 2 anymore and this guy sits there and says "it will take a while because of holidays". wow, thats a lesson how not to do community managment

[Essorance]

Mike, do something, bro. Your tweets are managing to dispel the sorcery you've cast on even the most die-hard of Biotrash fanboys.

[Sartoz]

 Snip

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The state of the game and the refusal to fix it baffles me.

".. refusal to fix..."? Not true.

 

Unless there is a need for a HOTFIX, they will accumulate fixes into one "big" patch.... see list of fixes for Patch 2. This approach takes time, unfortunately.

[Sartoz]

Fresh news!

https://twitter.com/...984963442688001

27 DEC is fresh news?

 

Still, it's some form of confirmation that Bio is working on our issues.

[MarchWaltz]

It's sad when Ubisoft is faster at patching than Bioware...

 

Bioware: Please, yall make good games, but hire QA people who have an IQ above that of a goldfish.

[Danoniero]

they are doing this for a long time now.

people complain about pc controls and lzy console port - still continue playing the game EVERYTIME with a controler.

people complain about controler optimized menues - denying it

people complain about no communication - celebration of goty awards on twitter

people complain about no patch - sure there is no patch we were in holiday.

 

to be honest, this is really disrespectfull to the customers at best. every single hot fix and workaround came from people and they didnt even managed it to collect them in a thread. there are people that cant play the game 2 month(!!!) after release, even better people that cant play the game after patch 2 anymore and this guy sits there and says "it will take a while because of holidays". wow, thats a lesson how not to do community managment

Yeah thats right. I could not wait for the patch 3 and I finally bought the game yesterday but I am a bit afraid to play It:P. Actually I feel like 2014 was a big fail for most AAA games i hope publishers will learn something in the future.

[s1rrah]

[Sartoz]

Wait then DO NOT release your game during holidays if you are not going to be there to support it. Release it in summer, oh this really rubs me the wrong way. SO basically every EA game during holidays i will wait to get it 2 months later so atleast patches will be out. Lesson learned. 

Nov 18 was the launch date in North America. This time frame is the holiday season?

 

They came out with Patch 2 then a Hotfix. Obviously, they were high priority issues. With those taken care of, a more "normal" work environment resumes.

 

You have a point about getting a game some time after launch. This will also be my practice from now on. And, hey, if EA continues with thei holidays specials, we can get a game for 30% off in the future.... I'm thinking ME4 in 2016.

[NM_Che56]

Wanting hat flaps to go away.

[BammBamm]

Yeah thats right. I could not wait for the patch 3 and I finally bought the game yesterday but I am a bit afraid to play It:P. Actually I feel like 2014 was a big fail for most AAA games i hope publishers will learn something in the future.

 

just try it, i myself had nearly no problems with it. when its not what you want you can still wait till patch 3

[Captain Wiseass]

Nov 18 was the launch date in North America. This time frame is the holiday season?

One week before Thanksgiving in the US. The "holiday season" generally begins right after that. Yes, Bioware is in Canada, and their Thanksgiving is in October, I believe, but regardless, the "Christmas season" in most countries generally starts around the end of November, beginning of December. People get a lot busier in their personal lives, and as a result, productivity at a lot of companies goes down. My workplace, an accounting firm in NYC, was all but dead for the whole month of December. Even without that, you have to consider that the amount of resources and personnel devoted to a game always goes down after release. People are moved to new projects (or just let go), and only a core group remains for the patching team.

 

Patch 2 was released December 9, representing three weeks of work after release. Christmas was 16 days after that, and I feel pretty confident in saying Bioware all but shut down at close of business on the 19th, the Friday before. I doubt much of anything got done until the 5th, last Monday. That's just how the holiday season works. It sucks for people waiting on the patch, but it's just the way things are. As far as scheduling the release so close to the holiday season in the first place, take it up with the brass at EA; they had their projections for the point at which continuing development on the game became cost-ineffective, and they made their decision. (Releasing earlier probably wouldn't have done much good in terms of QA, either; just more bugs and stuff that would need to be patched/reworked.)

 

The idea that the developers don't care about fixing the game to the best of their ability, or imagery of them just counting money and laughing at you, is the product of petulant cynicism.

[Seraphael]

Wanting hat flaps to go away.

 

Not gone away, but you may prefer this retexturing mod to the original:

 

 

http://www.nexusmods...tion/mods/126/?

[zeypher]

Nov 18 was the launch date in North America. This time frame is the holiday season?

 

They came out with Patch 2 then a Hotfix. Obviously, they were high priority issues. With those taken care of, a more "normal" work environment resumes.

 

You have a point about getting a game some time after launch. This will also be my practice from now on. And, hey, if EA continues with thei holidays specials, we can get a game for 30% off in the future.... I'm thinking ME4 in 2016.

 Yup even inquisition was off by a bit during Christmas. So future by waiting 2 months i not only get the fixes and info but also save my self a few bucks. Since i am in for the SP only waiting a bit is no loss to me.