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[Greetsme]

I do wish people would not make up excuses for them.  They gave us a bugged, unfinished game, then weeks, not days later, patched it with a broken patch.  If you really want to see this trend end, then you need to put the blame where the blame is justly deserved.  

No one in their right mind could say any of this was a mistake or a oversight,  they knew exactly what they were doing, weather EA pushed them to do this or that, it doesn't mater, it is not our fault that they signed up with the devil in the first place..

[Jaron Oberyn]

The PC persecution complex in this thread is strong. 

[SSV Enterprise]

They didn't "lower the graphics to solve performance". There was a bug at launch that caused the shader quality to stay at ultra, even when it was switched to a sub level. Basically people would set shader quality to low, yet it would still be ultra. This was the cause of performance issues on inferior machines. You can't blame the developers for why the game runs poorly on insufficient hardware. That blame is solely on the consumer who didn't bother to read the minimum and recommended requirements of the game. Too many people with microwave ovens are trying to run this game at high/ultra settings and then come here to complain when they get a 2 fps slideshow. 

 

Now as far as the QA is concerned, you're on point. There is no logical reason as to how this could have slipped past quality assurance. The fact that people are having their inquisitor facial appearances change drastically, among other things is unacceptable. But I also blame people pressuring Bioware to release a patch asap for this. People need to understand that bug fixing takes time, and that fixing one bug most often introduces others as we have seen. It isn't as if they decided "hey lets muck up these features while we're at it". The game pre patch 2 was playable for me on pc, the only bug I encountered was the voice change. No problems with stability, or any other issue. So fortunately I don't have any inclination to update at the moment. 

I do agree that issues the patch introduced, like the hair glitch, should have been easily caught in QA.  It's unacceptable that they're in the patch.  But there's no conspiracy going on to lower your game settings, and in the grand scheme of things it's not unprecedented for patches themselves to have glitches.  BioWare's done it before themselves, partcularly with the DAO 1.3 patch.  BioWare quickly provided a workaround for this issue, a hotfix is pending, and keep in mind patches are free.  People acting like this is the worst thing ever, piling hate on BioWare and saying they deserve their money back are being unreasonable.  Calm down, use the workaround, and wait for the hotfix, people.

[Steve236]

People are surprised Bioware is incompetent? Shouldve saved our money for Witcher 3.

[Kinvarus]

Did anybody else have a problem with scars after the patch went through? The ones on my Inquisitor disappeared, and none of them show up in the character creator anymore (there's still the slider, but none of them appear).

Yes they did, but the workaround that Bioware offered up fixes that issue.

[Halcyon Lavellan]

DarkTI, I completely agree with your statement however the workaround is literally at the top of the first post in this entire thread, which co-incidentally is the Patch Notes. 

 

Aside from the patch download being a prompt for reference to this, I don't feel that BW could make it any clearer to check, short of, as per my previous post, sticky-ing that post such that it appears at the top of every page of this topic so no-one could miss it.

 

Pennifer, when you used the workaround, did you change all graphics settings to Ultra? Have you tried using the workaround with "High" input instead of Ultra (with a corresponding change to Mesh Quality) and with other Graphics Settings at an appropriate level for your system specs? Are your drivers up to date (includes AMD's drivers released in the last 24 hours, if appropriate)?

 

I'm hoping some of that might be helpful at least; I've noticed a nominal amount of stuttering (say 0.2 sec in a complicated boss fight) however I know that this is more than likely due to me forcing the game to run at a slightly higher level of Graphical detail than I should - but that's a personal decision for which I accept full responsibility.

[dewayne31]

i know there were others posted bout this. anyonre figure out the freezing and unfreezing? i tried the workaround still had the issue

[DarkSinestra]

The PC persecution complex in this thread is strong. 

 

What possible reason could you have for saying this other than to stir the pot? People spent upward of 70 bucks on this game. Expecting to actually be able to play it and not have it broken three weeks after release isn't unreasonable. I can't think of a product on the market where this sort of thing would be considered acceptable. I could deal with the graphics issue, even though it's annoying and makes the game look like crap. But when you've used the workaround they posted and still can't play the game without stuttering and freezes you DID NOT HAVE before the patch plus new issues you DID NOT HAVE before the patch, you, as a customer, have a right to be annoyed and vent your frustration with the situation, which many people here are doing without flaming or resorting to ridiculous threats. Get off your high horse and stop acting like Bioware can do no wrong and the unwashed masses have no right to be irritated when they screw up. It's not helpful. At all.

[Dr. Agona Georigins]

From the start  I had very little trouble bugwise with the game compared to many others. Despite the atrocious controls, the terrible menus, mmo style farm quests and a plethora of other inconviniences I persevered and tried to enjoy the game as much as possible.
Then they "patched" it. After I managed to get the game to display like it was supposed to again i tried to continue playing but I quickly noticed diffrences. It did not run any smoother though I didn't have any trouble with smoothness or framerate before. I also did not experience more or less crashes.  The change I got is that my loading times easily quadrupled. While before I barely had time to read even one sentence of the displayed codex entries while loading, now I finally have enough time to read all three. This enriched my experience and enjoyment of the game thoroughly. Thank you.

[Grieving Natashina]

For those that have AMD graphics and didn't know, 14.12 is out.  I got that going the other night before the patch and it helped immensely.  Between that and the patch, it's helped me a lot.   I'm not sure if Nvida has put another driver out or not.  I'm not trying to be condensing to those that have looked, just trying to offer a suggestion.

 

For those still struggling, good luck.    

[SSV Enterprise]

I do wish people would not make up excuses for them.  They gave us a bugged, unfinished game, then weeks, not days later, patched it with a broken patch.  If you really want to see this trend end, then you need to put the blame where the blame is justly deserved.  

No one in their right mind could say any of this was a mistake or a oversight,  they knew exactly what they were doing, weather EA pushed them to do this or that, it doesn't mater, it is not our fault that they signed up with the devil in the first place..

 

All games have bugs. That doesn't make them unfinished. Even the most patched game you can think of has bugs lying around somewhere, be they graphical or with gameplay.  Nevermind huge, complex, expansive RPGs like DAI.  If you were to try to make a bug-free game, it would never be released.  Even when you fix bugs, there's a good chance you'll cause more.

[Luisen75]

I must be the only one who the game works better after the patch... O_o

 

Anyway (just for your information) there are three kinds of patches in the world of the videogame:

1 - The patch to fix bugs which breaks the working things.

2 - The patch to fix the chaos of the previous patch and which breaks the last working things.

3 - The patch with new & exciting™ content for try to forget the two previous patches..

4 - Goto 1...

[CeruleanPax]

For those that have AMD graphics and didn't know, 14.12 is out.  I got that going the other night before the patch and it helped immensely.  Between that and the patch, it's helped me a lot.   I'm not sure if Nvida has put another driver out or not.  I'm not trying to be condensing to those that have looked, just trying to offer a suggestion.

 

For those still struggling, good luck.  

 

I updated my drivers (AMD 14.12) before Origin forced the patch to download, it didn't seem to do much. At least I know that what is wrong isn't on my end. Graphics is one thing but my character playing the freeze/unfreeze game is quite unplayable not to mention the screen flickering to desktop at every loading screen. 
I'll wait for the hotfix, I hope it comes soon. DA:I is an amazing game without its flaws. 
 

[Ero_the_Great]

People are surprised Bioware is incompetent? Shouldve saved our money for Witcher 3

 

After Witcher 2?

Not buying that one at full prize money.

[Thule99]

Yes that's why i said that, in origin mechanic was so good we could realy decide each action for all group and make strategy even its no turns.

on DA3  as we see on video, the most interesting is to play one character like any rpg game (love tps or fps action rpg too) and let your team mates do the job by themselves.

it's not bad if u expect that game. For me, i expect more a game like the DA1.

now i know that i will play like DA3 like any tps action rpg and that's all. but still disppointment for me

 

It is possible to play all in tac cam, I am doing it.

To force characters to hold their positions, make sure you set tactics to "defend (name of that character)" for all characters. And then proceed to turn off AI in all ranged characters. So far I have it on for melee characters and is ok, of course I still select most of the skills for them too (I am only using one melee character, a tank in the party) and is working well enough.

Once you do that, they respect much more the hold position order. If you are unsure when to pause again, just keep an eye to see when the skill you ordered is done, they will go to basic attack, time to set another one.

[Grieving Natashina]

 

I must be the only one who the game works better after the patch... O_o

 

Nope, not the only one.  Mine runs better as well.

 

I do feel bad for the folks that have had their game break though.  

[DarkTl]

Oh well, at least they seem to fixed gender swapping. I'm going to start a new game, and hopefully MC won't be an androgyne this time.

[Cervin]

Nope, not the only one.  Mine runs better as well.

 

I do feel bad for the folks that have had their game break though.  

yep same here.

 

even the cutscenes is lag free too ^^

[Sarogoba]

Nossa, é no minimo engraçado como por causa de um probleminha de shader a maioria agora detesta a bioware...antes nao havia estas reclamaçoes. Fiz o patch e funcionou perfeitamente. Muito bem bioware, bom trabalho. Falhou apenas no problema dos shader mesmo. A AI e a camera tatica estao otimas agora.
Recomendo auqem teve estes problemas em reinstalar e  atualizar o drive de video. nao esqueça de fazer os procedimentos na primeira pagina.

 

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Wow, that's the funny least as because of a little problem shader most now hates bioware ... before there were no such complaints. I did the patch and it worked perfectly. Bioware well, good job. Failed only the problem of same shader. The AI and the camera tactic station excelent now.
Recommend auqem had these problems reinstall and update the video drive. not forget to do the procedures in the first page.

[Jaron Oberyn]

What possible reason could you have for saying this other than to stir the pot? People spent upward of 70 bucks on this game. Expecting to actually be able to play it and not have it broken three weeks after release isn't unreasonable. I can't think of a product on the market where this sort of thing would be considered acceptable. I could deal with the graphics issue, even though it's annoying and makes the game look like crap. But when you've used the workaround they posted and still can't play the game without stuttering and freezes you DID NOT HAVE before the patch plus new issues you DID NOT HAVE before the patch, you, as a customer, have a right to be annoyed and vent your frustration with the situation, which many people here are doing without flaming or resorting to ridiculous threats. Get off your high horse and stop acting like Bioware can do no wrong and the unwashed masses have no right to be irritated when they screw up. It's not helpful. At all.

My reasoning for saying that? Shame, given that I am a PC player myself. If you actually bothered to read my posts, you'd see I've not shied away from giving bioware their due blame. There is no excuse for the QA team letting these issues pass. I don't however agree with this ignorant notion that Bioware is somehow out to screw all PC users. 

 

Now in regards to the patch, if you've played any game that has had an update before DAI then you'd know that there is always a possibility that amidst the fixes somethings can go wrong. This is precisely why I ensured that my origin was set to manual updates, and I checked the forums before even attempting to patch. This holds true for any software update. Unfortunately for that to work, there must be hamsters who take the shot. Just chalk it up to a lesson learned. Hopefully you'll not make the same mistake in a future patch, and not just for this game but anything software related. That's the nature of the beast. 

 

That being said, there are ways to revert. Someone posted a way to do it via folder properties or something a few pages back, and you can always reinstall the game and still use your saves, just don't auto update this time.

[Greetsme]

People are surprised Bioware is incompetent? Shouldve saved our money for Witcher 3.

 

If only it was released, at least we would have a alternative, and what I have seen of it so far, a good alternative.

[NesSelene]

I'd just like to say that before this patch I at least was able to play this game normally, despite low settings, enduring shiny hair and all that. (I'm a PC gamer).

 

After this patch I have (so far) come across these issues:

* I cannot summon my mount anymore, despite being out of combat and in an area where it should be summonable.

* The second I enter combat, ALL of my characters including my own seem to be running, but they aren't able to go anywhere. They stay in their spot while trying to go to the enemy they should kill. This means I can't run anywhere, not even to safety, or to come closer to put an AOE spell under their feet.

When the combat is over and my characters relax, I can run normally again with them all.

* The animals/critters in the game have the same issue as previously mentioned. They barely move forward while they appear to be running fast.

 

I hope that will be fixed very very quickly, because if this stays I suddenly can't play a game which I could before.

[glosoli]

Witcher 3 will be released on May 2015. I believe DAI will be more stable by then.

[Thule99]

I didn't patch, I was waiting to see how it went. I already have Origin in offline mode, no automatic updates etc, all the time, and as expected, didn't ask to update.

I'll wait until all is clear.

[Sarogoba]

 

I must be the only one who the game works better after the patch... O_o

 

Anyway (just for your information) there are three kinds of patches in the world of the videogame:

1 - The patch to fix bugs which breaks the working things.

2 - The patch to fix the chaos of the previous patch and which breaks the last working things.

3 - The patch with new & exciting™ content for try to forget the two previous patches..

4 - Goto 1...

 

Man, the ONLY problem I had here was in relation to the same shader. Resolved on the first page command line. Most claims and not pay attention in the simple solution.

 

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Cara, o UNICO problema que tive aqui foi em relaçao ao shader mesmo. Resolvido na linha de comando da primeira pagina. A maioria reclama e nao presta atençao na soluçao tao simples.