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[romuloresende]

YES!! The workaround fix the graphics, but it DIDN'T fix the freezing every step we take. The menu is freezing A LOT. I was playing JUST FINE before the patch. Now the game is stuttering every second. I understand when a patch doesn't solve the problems, but make them worse? I've never seen this my entire life. And they say "We're working on getting a hot fix out for the PC graphics issue"! What about the ****** stuttering that makes the game completely unplayable? Please don't fix the graphics and keep the freezing!

[eno detah]

Oh dear... I hope not. I am now trying to restart the game. 

The weird thing is that when I started it up today it seemed to be working just fine.

And then it suddenly popped in my game, screwing things up. 

Hopefully, if reinstalling really is necessary, I can save my games. Otherwise it's a loss of 107 hours.

 

I've not yet seen a post from anyone claiming to have corrupted save files (not impossible of course but doesn't seem to be happening), so your 107 hours should be safe. Just make sure to backup the Save folder/directory before repairing/reinstalling to be safe.

[Neon Rising Winter]

...which is still anecdotal evidence.

Heavens. Anecdotal data. On a gaming forum. Designed by its very nature to be a whopping great collection of anecdotal data. If you're after deep statistical analysis that will stand up to academic peer review you'll be needing to try a more appropriate location.

 

Also I thought it was unplayable. In that it irritated me so severely I ceased to play and came here for a whinge instead.

[Darcy101]

Try the fix by zepher on page 83 at the top. It worked for me! I had tried the workaround first and it didn't help but when I followed zepher's instructions and added the 60 fps limit to the target line workaround the lag and freezing during start menu, option menus, gameplay, and cut scenes was gone and the freezing was drastically reduced making my game playable once again.

[glosoli]

Corto made a claim about there being a "huge amount of people" with problems bad enough to make the game "unplayable".  i was asking to see if there was any evidence for that.  So far, any evidence cited has been anecdotal.

 

And in case you haven't been paying attention iorveth, I'm trying to help.

 

Anectodal evidence is being defined as "made up" or "not based on facts".

 

What do you call the dev comments on possible fixes, do you believe they are not based on facts? If they are not, why Bioware quickly stated that there will be a hotfix soon? A hotfix would not be needed otherwise.

 

Screenshots like this one can be found in the thread. Grass, ice, weather all look terrible now.

[SSV Enterprise]

I find the lag unplayable right now. (Note: It wasn't unplayable last night, and yes, I did patch and I did use the work-around. But now is oddly different.) Definitely not anecdotal.

 

That's the very definition of anecdotal.  Anecdotal means based on individual accounts, rather than statistical data.  It's enough to show that there is a problem, but not that a "huge amount of people" are experiencing the problem.

 

Do you want a scientific poll on the amount of people having issues? A lot of people are, this is just nitpicky.

 

If you want "a lot of people" to actually mean anything, then yeah, something like a poll of all the users of the BioWare forum would be necessary.

[Xhaiden]

...which is still anecdotal evidence.

 

So....you have 95+ pages here with people showing screenshots and even videos. Two threads on Reddit that total around 1000+ comments ( Also with screenshots, etc ). Articles on Kotaku, Incgamers, Gameranx, Softpedia and DSOG and that's just a cursory Google search....

 

Anecdotal. I do not think you know what the word means. >.>

[Greetsme]

Can anyone recommend a good MMO to play while I'm waiting?

[SSV Enterprise]

Anectodal evidence is being defined as "made up" or "not based on facts".

 

What do you call the comments dev comments on possible fixes, do you believe they are not based on facts? If they are not, why Bioware quickly stated that there will be a hotfix soon? A hotfix would not be needed otherwise.

 

Screenshots like this one can be found in the thread. Grass, ice, weather all look terrible now.

No, that's an incorrect definition of anecdotal.  Anecdotal evidence is still based on real events, facts, etc, but not statistical evidence.  Statistical evidence is needed to make broad statements like "a huge amount".

 

And the hair glitch is the main issue I think BioWare is addressing with the hotfix.  Performance and graphics degrading to the point of "unplayability" does not seem to be the reason.

[NesSelene]

I've not yet seen a post from anyone claiming to have corrupted save files (not impossible of course but doesn't seem to be happening), so your 107 hours should be safe. Just make sure to backup the Save folder/directory before repairing/reinstalling to be safe.

I have ran the repair (noticed this current post too late about back up) and it seems to be working now. I'm keeping my fingers crossed, but so far so good.

[Oryctolagus]

So....you have 95+ pages here with people showing screenshots and even videos. Two threads on Reddit that total around 1000+ comments ( Also with screenshots, etc ). Articles on Kotaku, Incgamers, Gameranx, Softpedia and DSOG and that's just a cursory Google search....

 

Anecdotal. I do not think you know what the word means. >.>

 

Anecdotal does not mean "illegitimate".  It means it is unquantifiable, that's all.  You have to have data to reproduce an issue.  It's used correctly.

[justin25]

Are you really that self-centered?

 

The game is literally unplayable for a huge number of people.

 

...

 

I played Skyrim at launch without one single problem.

I do realize, however, that a huge number of people had massive issues.

 

Just because YOU aren't having issues doesn't mean those issues aren't there for other people.

 

It's amazing. I'm having to repeat this like 4 times in this thread.

The lack of support among gamers, the lack of empathy, is exactly why companies these days release patches like this.

 

Wow!  I SAID some people are having issues.  You clearly never played AC4, or else this game would be a godsend, bugwise. Clearly some people can not read properly.

[Neon Rising Winter]

So....you have 95+ pages here with people showing screenshots and even videos. Two threads on Reddit that total around 1000+ comments ( Also with screenshots, etc ). Articles on Kotaku, Incgamers, Gameranx, Softpedia and DSOG and that's just a cursory Google search....

 

Anecdotal. I do not think you know what the word means. >.>

No, he's right on that, it's anecdotal. The problem is confusing anecdotal with worthless. Several hours ago a few developers had their heads buried in this game, burning the company's money, based on a load of anecdotal data. Anecdotal data while inappropriate in say an academic paper is really bloody useful.

 

For reference 'a huge amount' is a great term to use in anecdotal data. If someone presents it to you in a serious statistical analysis ask them to print it out. Take the print out, roll it up, hit them over the head with it and send them away to select a more appropriate term.

[SSV Enterprise]

So....you have 95+ pages here with people showing screenshots and even videos. Two threads on Reddit that total around 1000+ comments ( Also with screenshots, etc ). Articles on Kotaku, Incgamers, Gameranx, Softpedia and DSOG and that's just a cursory Google search....

 

Anecdotal. I do not think you know what the word means. >.>

 

See Chewbacca99's point about monitoring a customer support line on the last page.  This thread is an inaccurate representation of the user base in general as relates to performance issues and bugs, because the reason people are likely in this thread at all is for performance issues and bugs.

[eastkaraturcompany]

Ok. Seems you have to have meshes to ultra now or the game just looks terrible. Washed out colour and severe pop-in of just about everything (except npcs despite the description, and despite them being the thing that seems to kill fps).

 

Bioware, if you're listening and want changing settings to have meaningful improvement for people - just add a setting that only reduces the draw distance for npcs. Or just reduce their draw distance in redcliffe (and skyhold and haven too perhaps thought they're not nearly so bad). Don't tie that to a general quality setting which makes the game look wretched.

[glosoli]

No, that's an incorrect definition of anecdotal.  Anecdotal evidence is still based on real events, facts, etc, but not statistical evidence.  Statistical evidence is needed to make broad statements like "a huge amount".

 

And the hair glitch is the main issue I think BioWare is addressing with the hotfix.  Performance and graphics degrading to the point of "unplayability" does not seem to be the reason.

 

We can't do the statistical duty here but EA can. They can check the servers about how many people was online on DAI after the patch and compare it to today. Or in any other way they can, that we do not know. 

 

As an international trader/sales ex. who has education in commercial law I can say that the provided data throughout the web is enough to take action for EA/Bioware. There are measurables and unmeasurables. Users of major websites on this industry are all commenting on the same words: graphics, low, stuttering, hotfix.

[justin25]

I've not yet seen a post from anyone claiming to have corrupted save files (not impossible of course but doesn't seem to be happening), so your 107 hours should be safe. Just make sure to backup the Save folder/directory before repairing/reinstalling to be safe.

 

Yup, this isnt a Ubisoft game; saved games arent a issue

[SSV Enterprise]

No, he's right on that, it's anecdotal. The problem is confusing anecdotal with worthless. Several hours ago a few developers had their heads buried in this game, burning the company's money, based on a load of anecdotal data. Anecdotal data while inappropriate in say an academic paper is really bloody useful.

 

For reference 'a huge amount' is a great term to use in anecdotal data. If someone presents it to you in a serious statistical analysis ask them to print it out. Take the print out, roll it up, hit them over the head with it and send them away to select a more appropriate term.

 

I'm not saying the anecdotal evidence in this thread is useless.  I just don't think it's enough to justify claims of a "huge amount" of players experiencing unplayability.  Even if we take this thread as evidence, the amount of people complaining about problems here is small compared to the overall player base of DAI.

[pdusen]

The game is literally unplayable for a huge number of people.

 

Citation needed.

 

I'll grant you a huge number of people in this thread, but I haven't had any problems playing the game since the patch dropped, just for example, so you'll need to provide some evidence that a significant percentage of PC players are even running into those kinds of issues.

 

Of course, that's not counting the graphical bug, which the workaround fixed for me and is probably going to get hotfixed, but to say that issue makes the game unplayable is utterly ridiculous.

[Deamo]

Has Bioware said if the "hotfix" will be a few days, or is this going to take several weeks again? Prior to patch my game was 99% stable. 1 crash in dozens of hours of play, now with the new "patch" it's been crashing constantly, every 3-5 minutes :/

[pdusen]

Just read the thread from the beginning. You will see.

 

The contents of this thread are about as far from a representative sample of all PC players as you can get.

[SSV Enterprise]

Has Bioware said if the "hotfix" will be a few days, or is this going to take several weeks again? Prior to patch my game was 99% stable. 1 crash in dozens of hours of play, now with the new "patch" it's been crashing constantly, every 3-5 minutes :/

They haven't given a time frame for when the hotfix will be out, no.

[Oryctolagus]

You guys are arguing two distinct things.  SSV Enterprise is arguing how representative of the issue the forums are, and everyone else is arguing that there's a problem.  And then semantics got introduced into it.

 

You're both saying correct things, but in two different conversations.

[glosoli]

Citation needed.

 

I'll grant you a huge number of people in this thread, but I haven't had any problems playing the game since the patch dropped, just for example, so you'll need to provide some evidence that a significant percentage of PC players are even running into those kinds of issues.

 

Of course, that's not counting the graphical bug, which the workaround fixed for me and is probably going to get hotfixed, but to say that issue makes the game unplayable is utterly ridiculous.

 

Unplayable here is a different term for every individiual. Some people thinks the graphical problems are nothing to worry about and play the game but may complain about some NPCs freckles are missing, ice looks like a carton. "Game breaking" is not about the performance or being able to run the game.