4- Also, for those who believe in the spiritual dimension, comitting abuses is a violation of the laws of nature and costs you something. That cost will be felt upon some area of your life. Maybe not now, but in the future. A son who gets a fatal illness, a wife that dies during childbirth, asf.
Luciferians try to manipulate the so-called "energy of life" to try and turn fate to their advantage, but that supposedly has nothing to do with satanism.
5- So, back to the fantastic world of Thedas and out of all that satanic ****, killing the Divine has multiple meanings. Cory is literally killing the reason for there to be peace in the world. He's also killing something pure, a woman that will work for the rgeater good, an innocent who is about to bring a bonus to the spiritual world, since the Conclave will prevent further war. Cory knew what he was doing and the whole shedding of Justinia's blood has deep esoteric meaning.
I hope I helped somehow to clarify that issue, disturbing as it is.
Pride is a big theme in the game, which goes for Corypheus too.
Transferring some of his soul to his dragon, leaving a vulnerability fo himself and sacrificing the divine er nothing more that statements because Corypheus is still quite human.
"Look what I can do, nah-nah-nah-nah NAH!" is his chain of thought.
She would be the first one to oppose him as a new god in the south. Might as well take her out early.
How was it a good plan lol?
It got foiled by a completely random person strolling in through the door...
I mean, the place was brimming with powerful mages, templars, seekers, soldiers, who knows who else...
And his master plan is to make an extended ceremony right there and then, with no freakin door guards etc.
It was a pretty weak plan lol.
More importantly, it's some questionable writing. Diablo 3 style.
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Also, the whole mage-templar mage conflict, so much talked about and so "impossible to solve"...
You sorta handle it in about 20 minutes, by doing one quest.
Finally, someone mentioning this! Let's waltz in a temple full of mages and templars and Grand Clerics and Nobles, who probably have personal body guards, and kidnap the Divine. What could possibly go wrong? I'm just surprised that it was only the Inquisitor who showed up during the ritual. Where was everyone else at that time?
Speaking of personal body guards, the better question is, why was either Leliana or Cassandra not with Justinia at the time? Given the tension of the war and the importance of the Conclave, shouldn't at least one of them be with Justinia 24/7????
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As for the mage-templar conflict, let's not forget that this is after you raid a mage camp and a templar camp in the Hinterlands, which is after you kill every single mage and every single templar wandering around the Hinterlands. Granted those were rebels, I would have imagined an attempt to reason with them first, or at least detain them.
Divine Justina may have been a peacemaker, but she also represented the authority to call Exalted Marches. And the nations of Southern Thedas would have answered the Divine's call even if the Seekers and the Order did not. It might have actually worked out better for Corypheus to do it in this way, but he was probably hoping for a quicker, cleaner victory.
Someone probably already said this but the timing and place was simply perfect. The Mages and Templars were at war with each other already and causing a massive explosion that kills the leaders from both sides would only ruin any chances of diplomacy. Getting rid of all the higher rank Chantry members - the other governing power in Thedas would create more chaos that, in theory would have prevented anyone from rallying an army that could challenge him.
Killing the Divine, who was both a powerful figure and a symbolic icon for a majority of the populace was also another method of inspiring fear. When people become afraid they look to their faiths for hope. The Divine's death only told everyone that nobody was safe.
Makes sense that Cory chose the meeting place of the Mages, Templars, and Chantry to start it all. Using the Divine as the sacrifice was poetry at its finest.
Also, the whole mage-templar mage conflict, so much talked about and so "impossible to solve"...
You sorta handle it in about 20 minutes, by doing one quest.
Sooo. Question for the loremongers around here, since I'm somewhat new to Thedas and missing a bit of the background most here probably take for granted.
Is there a non-deus-ex-machina reason Corypheus selected the Divine as his sacrifice?
Blood magic being blood magic, I'd have thought he could've pulled an urchin off the street with more or less the same effect. Nobody would have noticed. Evil: 1, Good: 0, no overtime. Hurrah! Or is that too simplistic?
This question has been raised several times in the last couple of weeks. The shortest answer is "It never gets explained." A better answer (theory, really) is found in the speculation here. I think Corypheus was making a statement by using the Divine.
So, I think a big part of Cory's motivation is that he's pissed that the Black City turned Black (before he got there, he says) and that there was no God for him to meet, and then he wakes up and there's this whole big religion that formed and has major ideas about what he saw (Seat of the Maker, etc) and he uses the Divine in multiple ways.
1. A blood sacrifice
2. A way to stick it to these foolish people who believe in the Maker
3. A way to cause chaos that will benefit him
4. A way to attract the Maker if he does exist (Cory seems to desperately want there to be a God and seems pissed there isn't one)
5. A way to stick it to the Maker, real or not
It's possible that someone like Justinia might have very powerful blood as well (we honestly have no idea if that's a thing). But those things are more interesting to me than that possibility. I find it interesting how obsessed Cory is with there being no God; he not only wants to be one, but he desperately feels the lack of one from the way he speaks about it, both here and briefly in the DLC before, when he mentions it was already Black when they got there, etc,etc.
He is has come from being a servant of Dumat to being a servant of the plot.
Anything he does no matter how nonsensical is either because he is crazy or arrogant or both.Take your pick.
Maybe the writers will spend as much energy making the villain as they do with companions in the next game,I'm not expecting it though.
if you're gonna destroy the world, you might as well go big or go home... and what better way to appease all the religion haters on the bsn than to blow up the thedas equivalent of the pope?
I think Jaws of Hakkon revealed so much about spirits and fade and power that explained how can having so many believers in anything in Thedas, would reflect in forming strong equivalent in the fade, and bring such power in the world of dreams.
So yes, the faith plays important part in this world the dragon age writers created, and the divine have significant meaning in Thedas and the Fade, like how Hakkon formed first time, and Avvar keep forming him many other times again. Not the same entity, but the same concept.
It's not newly introduced concept to DA actually , DA:O had the spirit of the forest, who was "formed" somehow ..
A reflection for things/beings/meanings/feelings of the mortal world in the fade, that's most of the strong spirit are. So the Divine you meet in the Fade, it's that. Maybe not only Justinia, but all the divines accumulated over the ages. Or even if she is Justinia, the spirit didn't form upon her death, but upon her coronation most likely, and she watched, and fed from all the faithful and from the Divine herself, making her that strong, and that helpful, and that faithful.. Not strong enough to beat Cory on her own, but enough to be the catalyst of his demise, helping the inq, twice. Or maybe even more, by letting people think he/she is herald of Andraste .. etc?
Probably for the same reason the Qunari tried to blow up all the world leaders who showed up to tell the Inquisition off in Trespasser: to get rid of all the world's spiritual leaders, leave the world in a state of chaos (especially since he'd planned to assassinate Celene, raise a demon army, and enslave both mages and Templars soon after) so they'd be disorganized and vulnerable to a full-scale attack, conquer and enslavement.
Cory is not just random bad guy #682. He is/was the high priest of Dumat. For a religion that worshipped Dragons, I am pretty sure their ceremonies were full of pomp and grand gestures. Do you offer your Dragon God the blood of some random lowly peasant... Or the blood of the high priestess of an opposing religion?
Solas might've even worked out to be a stronger sacrifice than the Divine. Why doesn't Corypheus turn into an actual villain and back-stab the one who gives him the artefact? 
The common, and most likely answer is simply this:
Killing the Divine would cause chaos, as well as serve as a symbolic butchering of a 'false' religion that dismantled Old God worship. Not only would it all but forsake peace between mages and Templars, but her murder would cause dissent among the rest of Thedas's people. We all saw how much the Chantry faltered when she and her potential succsessors were removed. Causing such chaos only aided Cory's plans.
But there are theories.
One prevalent among them is that the Divine's "faith fade power" helped fuel the orb that Cory wields. That, in conjunction with the red lyrium beneath the temple, would serve as a sufficient replacement to the supplies used the last time he tried to enter the fade in the flesh. That is to say, instead of using thousands of slaves and roughly one third of the empire's lyrium supply to enter the fade/black city, he decided to use supper charged versions on both. Why use a lot of blue lyrium when he can have the red lyrium. Why use thousands of slaves when he can potentially use one that is super charged with the faith of half a continent.
Another theory also suggests that maybe the Divine's murder was a mandatory perquisite to using the orb (also tying into "faith fade power" theories).
What I don't UNDERSTAND is his concept of the end game; there are literally so many demons coming through rifts they've run out of sacrifices to bind them. This whole situation had probably been worse than a Blight. Bring back the glory of the Tevinter Imperium? Really? With the whole world wrecked, it seems they'd be entrenched in constant demon battle just to friggin visit the bathroom. There's nothing to rule if you destroyed it all.
His end game didn't involve the breach. The breach was an accident, that Corypheus never wanted to happen in the first place. He either didn't knew his ritual would create it or it wouldn't have done that without the Inquisitor disturbing the ritual in the first place. In the bad future Corypheus was initially sucessful in summoning his demon army, assassinating Celene and conquering Orlais and Ferelden, however without the Inquisitor around the breach widened and more and more demons came pouring through, starting to f*ck things up for the Venatori as well. Alexius diary states that Corypheus has tasked him to somehow go back in time and prevent the breach from happening, since it's basically destroying all of Thedas. However as Alexius notes it's simply impossible to do that because time travel only works within the timeframe where the breach exists and therefore he can't travel back to before the breach.
His end game didn't involve the breach. The breach was an accident, that Corypheus never wanted to happen in the first place. He either didn't knew his ritual would create it or it wouldn't have done that without the Inquisitor disturbing the ritual in the first place. In the bad future Corypheus was initially sucessful in summoning his demon army, assassinating Celene and conquering Orlais and Ferelden, however without the Inquisitor around the breach widened and more and more demons came pouring through, starting to f*ck things up for the Venatori as well. Alexius diary states that Corypheus has tasked him to somehow go back in time and prevent the breach from happening, since it's basically destroying all of Thedas. However as Alexius notes it's simply impossible to do that because time travel only works within the timeframe where the breach exists and therefore he can't travel back to before the breach.
Oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo. Wow, I read that as a grab for Cory to prevent the anchor from being given to the Inquisitor, not that he was actually unhappy with the Breach situation.
It could be either. Go back to before the Breach, then the anchor has not yet passed to the Herald but also go back to before the Breach so you can control the manner of its creation and prevent it going bad as it did in the dark future. I still think the former was the chief reason. The whole reason they want to trap the Herald is because Cory thinks it will enable him to recover the anchor. When Alexius sends him off into the ether without recovering the anchor, then Cory wants to return to the point where the Herald never got it.
Cory always wanted to open the Breach because it was his means of getting to the Black City. He actually wanted to use the orb and anchor (they are in fact a pair) in the same way that Solas did, except that in Solas' case he wasn't just going to open the Veil to enter the Fade but in order to tear it down. I rather wonder if Solas just arranged for Cory to find the orb because he thought he would just activate it blind without knowing what it did. However, it would appear he wasn't aware that the ancient Tevinter had used orbs before, Cory was aware of this (if Dorian knew about it then Cory certainly would) and thus he "read" the orb to acquire knowledge of how to use it before he activated it. It was not enough simply to enter the Fade; Cory wanted to enter it at a specific place and due to the shifting nature of the place, he needed the anchor to fix him there. Remember he reached the Black City last time only to be coughed back out again. That is why things aren't going to plan for Cory in the dark future because not only is the material world being slowly destroyed by the Fade and its creatures but he is still no nearer to entering the Black City, which he seems convinced is necessary for him to truly assume the power of godhood.
The sacrifice of the Divine may have been necessary to opening the Fade or it may simply have been a highly symbolic gesture to show people that the Maker was a false, powerless god, they had placed their trust in and he was the true god who had usurped his power.
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