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[tmp7704]

Tmp7704 i think you just discribed DA:I... Except its single player and has less story.

I think you haven't played DA:I if you think that description matches it. Either that, or SWTOR. Which is it?

[Elsariel]

If it wasn't for those of us who purchased Dragon Age Origins (and the original ME for that matter), the DLC, the expansions, there wouldn't be a Dragon Age Inquisition. Bioware completed shafted everybody who helped put them were they are today and have just tried to push a sub-standard, less than average generic please everybody type of game. They used to excel at certain things, ME3 and this have proved they just don't excel at anything anymore.

I was there for DAO and DA2. I loved both games, though I had some issues with them. I also adore DA:I despite some issues and disappointments. I don't feel shafted at all. I can understand you feel differently but please don't lump everyone else under that umbrella because we don't all agree.

[Dandynermite]

"Exactly the same"?

OK, i'll bite. Where in the Inquisition you are only given access to another zone after you complete the quests in the current one outleveling the content in the process, and where's the quest givers sending you from one camp to another after you are done with all quests in the most current camp?

Your idea of "exactly the same" couldn't be further from truth, which tells me you aren't really interested in having some actual discussion about it.

 

You played the game? Western Approach? Emperis du Po (or whatever its called), do this quest, wait several hours, "NEW ZONE UNLOCKED"! do some more quests, send operative on mission waiting several hours again "NEW ZONE UNLOCKED"!

[tmp7704]

You played the game? Western Approach? Emperis du Po (or whatever its called), do this quest, wait several hours, "NEW ZONE UNLOCKED"! do some more quests, send operative on mission waiting several hours again "NEW ZONE UNLOCKED"!

In addition to 6+ other zones you can open and visit in whatever manner and order you wish. Yes, this is exactly the same like the MMO theme park approach.

[paul paymond]

First off, there are many goods parts to Dragon Age Inquisition, I've just finished it with about 70 hours play-time, but there are some truly truly awful parts to it. There are 6 main points I'd love any Bioware person to explain.

 

1) Why was it an open-world attempt? It feels like I am playing a bad version of WoW when I have to get on a mount and go for ages to get from one side to the other. When people said Dragon Age 2 was too small, they meant too small on content, not time the maps by ten, add random mobs but don't actually increase the story/cutscenes etc.

 

2) Why on a single player game do I have times to advance to the story. It feels like I am playing a freemium mobile game? Lelliana is gone for 22 hours, I am just waiting for the "Spend 10 coins to finish instantly, buy coins for $x".... Really? Who even thought that would be a good idea?

 

3) Why do choices have absolutely no consequences? I sided with and freed the templars, doesn't affect the Red Templars being the main enemy for the entire game basically, if I side with the mages, templars still the enemy... These big plot decisions have absolutely no impact other than you saying "Oh, I saved the templars". I thought this was learnt after ME3 when your choices in dialogue resulted in the same outcome no matter what you chose. This is so far from DA:O, even DA2! it's unreal.

 

4) Why can't I click to move without going to tactical mode? That's plain stupid, the only way to go forward on PC is to hold W in 2014...

 

5) Why are there 3 slides at the end and that's it? Dragon Age Origins explained everything you did and the consequences, its a simple simple job that ends the story so well, yet it just doesn't happen...

 

6) Why is Skyhold never repaired? Holes in the walls, cobwebs, empty trashed rooms are never looked at yet I have the whole Inquisition there? VERY, VERY LAZY work.

 

Overall, whilst it looked very very promising it is ultimately worse than DA2. Never before on a Bioware game have I skipped zones because I am so bored of the rinse-repeat quests that Inquisition has for some reason resorted to. Exalted Marches or something like that I haven't even loaded because I know I'll get there, have to find this ring, close x amounts of rift, take over a keep I'm guessing? And how does it affect the story, it doesn't. So why would the inquisitor being doing it instead of the Inquisition army? They wouldn't be.

 

Some parts were really well done, the Winter Palace was a good change and cool, as were the follower quests (shame they didn't change their attitudes at all though or effect anything (go and play Origins and do Sten's sword quest or Morrigan's Grimore and you'll see what I mean)) but ultimately it's a shame instead of an RPG we got an offline MMO.

 

Infuriatingly, yet again, Bioware have added a completely needless Multiplayer to their game in an attempt to cash grab down the line. Imagine if that had been scrapped and the resources put into the actual game how good it may have been.

 

Ultimately, this will be the last Bioware game I buy, having purchased every one since Origins, it's a sad end to a once great gaming company.

To nummber 1: they could have put more stuff like more puzzles to do weapons armour & schematics to find and more range of quest like a monster hunt and they did take some stuff out of game before it came out because of time restraint befor relese like the extra stuff in the gameplay demos arnt in the game and they most likely have DLC planed to fill out the game more to put that demo content back in and add more stuff.

 

And to nummber 6: they are  most likely going to make a skyhold DLC involving things to do with the hold. If they put all the stuff they had planned in the game there would be loade more game bugs and a longer waiting time fore the game. And withe all there ideas in the game there may not be any future DLC but to me the game is good but not exalent and better than DA2.  

[scrutinizer]

From other news,

As we know, Bioware have got this wrong again. CD Projekt RED though, seems to get it right, as the release date of The Witcher 3 has been postponed to May 19th in order to add the much needed finishing touch and overall polish.

[Greetsme]

Lol. Metacritic user scores? Are you serious? There's no more whiney, hyperbolic and useless place on the Internet then user scores for video games.

 

I bet you a penny that if the metacritic user score was 9.9, then they would be good upstanding intelligent people, yes?

[AlanC9]

In addition to 6+ other zones you can open and visit in whatever manner and order you wish. Yes, this is exactly the same like the MMO theme park approach.

I don't pay much attention to MMOs. What's the "theme park" approach?

[Melca36]

First its NOT a true open world game like Skyrim.  Second...I really have no sympathy for those who constantly whine about it.  Its obviously they are lazy and want everything handed to them in games.    

 

For $70 I am getting my money's worth and am having fun and have the imagination to enjoy EVERYTHING and that is all that matters to me.    I don't want a linear game where enemies materialize from the ceiling and everything is handed to me

 

[dfstone]

I don't pay much attention to MMOs. What's the "theme park" approach?

 

I would assume that since this game isn't an MMO that its kinda irrelevant.

[Melca36]

From other news,

As we know, Bioware have got this wrong again. CD Projekt RED though, seems to get it right, as the release date of The Witcher 3 has been postponed to May 19th in order to add the much needed finishing touch and overall polish.

Everytime somebody sings the praises of the Witcher...I lose the desire to play it.

 

Oh and when the Witcher game developers decide to let women play as female characters in their games...I will consider them

[BroBear Berbil]

Definitely agree with #4.

 

Having to use a jarring and entirely separate "tactical" mode just to issue orders is tedious and a horrible change from previous games. Another horrible change in the same vein is that you can't select multiple party members; no shift F1 F3 etc., no drag to select, no select all hotkey - nothing. This change of function on the PC to mirror that of a console controller's is my biggest issue with this game. I hope it's fixed for Inquisition eventually and then never repeated in future Dragon Age games.

[Dandynermite]

Everytime somebody sings the praises of the Witcher...I lose the desire to play it.

 

Oh and when the Witcher game developers decide to let women play as female characters in their games...I will consider them

 

Solid 10/10 for Bioware fanboyism.

[dfstone]

Definitely agree with #4.

 

Having to use a jarring and entirely separate "tactical" mode just to issue orders is tedious and a horrible change from previous games. Another horrible change in the same vein is that you can't select multiple party members; no shift F1 F3 etc., no drag to select, no select all hotkey - nothing. This change of function on the PC to mirror that of a console controller's is my biggest issue with this game. I hope it's fixed for Inquisition eventually and then never repeated in future Dragon Age games.

 

Tactical mode was almost the same as combat in Origins.  They took it out in DA2 and people complained it was too FPSish, so they put it back in and now people complain.

 

This is why one never listens to the internets...its like pissing into the wind.

[Lianaar]

Everytime somebody sings the praises of the Witcher...I lose the desire to play it.

 

Oh and when the Witcher game developers decide to let women play as female characters in their games...I will consider them

I would be happy if they let me play as a normal man instead of a woman too, not like I never played male characters in my life before. Just... within good tastes. I couldn't manage so far. The books are way better then the game.

Alas, everyone to their own, no? If people enjoy it, it is their right. I am however happy there are different games then Witcher. Hrm, maybe my kids would be happier if there were only witcher games, for I'd not spend time with my computer

[Lianaar]

Solid 10/10 for Bioware fanboyism.

Nah, it is just Witcher is not really for women. It is not for another company, it is against a wasted potential of witcher.

I could cope with the terrible voice over of my own language, since I could undo it. I could accept the mediocrate voice acting. The books are great. The story is ok. But some aspects are so overdone that it ruin the fun for many of us. I don't ask for Witcher not to be. I am glad it gives fun to many people. Yay for them.

 

Just don't try to make the games I like into Witcher, please

[scrutinizer]

Everytime somebody sings the praises of the Witcher...I lose the desire to play it.

 

Oh and when the Witcher game developers decide to let women play as female characters in their games...I will consider them

Then you are missing on a great game simply because of a mere prejudice.

Besides, in Sapkowski's world, women cannot become witchers. If you consider this world flawed because of the fact, then I feel sorry for you.

[BroBear Berbil]

Tactical mode was almost the same as combat in Origins.  They took it out in DA2 and people complained it was too FPSish, so they put it back in and now people complain.

 

This is why one never listens to the internets...its like pissing into the wind.

 

I didn't need to zoom out just to issue orders in Origins, and when I did the camera wasn't claustrophobic. I played Origins mainly over the shoulder anyway, same as in DA2 where it was forced - wasn't a change for me. 

 

 

Nah, it is just Witcher is not really for women.

 

By that logic, Tomb Raider is not really for men.

[Elsariel]

Then you are missing on a great game simply because of a mere prejudice.
Besides, in Sapkowski's world, women cannot become witchers. If you consider this world flawed because of the fact, then I feel sorry for you.

I'm sure the game is great. I've heard lots of good things about it. But I, too, don't really have the desire to play that game. I won't lie, not being able to make my own female character is the #1 downer. I don't think a thing needs to change about the game though. Certainly lore takes precedence. I just don't think it's for me. My game time is limited as it is. I'd rather use that time playing games that suit my fancy.

[DetcelferVisionary]

My favorite Dragon Age to date.  My friends seem to agree as well.  

 

Yes OP:  When I think "very very lazy",  I think BIOWARE.  *rolls eyes*.

[Lianaar]

By that logic, Tomb Raider is not really for men.

Uhm, no? Because not all males in the game are male whores trying to get you into their bed in various degrees from open to outright offensive ways?

It has nothign to do with the protagnist gender. It is the way how I can NOT avoid having boobs shoved in my face at every corner. I have enough coping with the monsters, thank you, if I wanted the other side I'd not turn to video games but other avenues. I do admit if it was males who would attempt to crawl into the main character's bed all the time at every corner, that'd put me off from the game too. It is neither realistic (let's face it, people's taste just differ), nor appealing (to me at least). It is ok in a ****** house, and I have no issues there, and even ****** houses can be done tastefully in a game, I was totally fine with DA:2's institute of that nature. But actually, as far as I played witcher, the only women not wanting to lay with the guy were whores if not paid enough. Everyone else was just too eager. That didn't add to the game, but took from it.

 

I want to have diverse characters and npcs, that react in various/different manner to the protagonist. The point is, the people in the environment are not made on one-schematics, they have unique personalities. One is this style and other is that style.

 

I am not saying that the game is not good story wise, system wise. But the characters do lack in the game. Less so in the book.

 

But there is a perspective you are right in: Tomb Raider is not the best in character interactions and development, so it is pretty similar >.< (disclaimer: I did not finish playing Witcher, I played both to a certain degree until it was too much from one type of story element, so my statements can only relate to the parts I played. My husband enjoyed it, my friends, at least the male ones, loved it.)

[Merlik]

I am completely happy with how they did the maps, saying DA2 is better is blasphemy 

[scrutinizer]

Uhm, no? Because not all males in the game are male whores trying to get you into their bed in various degrees from open to outright offensive ways?

It has nothign to do with the protagnist gender. It is the way how I can NOT avoid having boobs shoved in my face at every corner. I have enough coping with the monsters, thank you, if I wanted the other side I'd not turn to video games but other avenues. I do admit if it was males who would attempt to crawl into the main character's bed all the time at every corner, that'd put me off from the game too. It is neither realistic (let's face it, people's taste just differ), nor appealing (to me at least). It is ok in a ****** house, and I have no issues there, and even ****** houses can be done tastefully in a game, I was totally fine with DA:2's institute of that nature. But actually, as far as I played witcher, the only women not wanting to lay with the guy were whores if not paid enough. Everyone else was just too eager. That didn't add to the game, but took from it.

 

I want to have diverse characters and npcs, that react in various/different manner to the protagonist. The point is, the people in the environment are not made on one-schematics, they have unique personalities. One is this style and other is that style.

 

I am not saying that the game is not good story wise, system wise. But the characters do lack in the game. Less so in the book.

 

But there is a perspective you are right in: Tomb Raider is not the best in character interactions and development, so it is pretty similar >.< (disclaimer: I did not finish playing Witcher, I played both to a certain degree until it was too much from one type of story element, so my statements can only relate to the parts I played. My husband enjoyed it, my friends, at least the male ones, loved it.)

You make it sound like the Witcher is an epitome of male chauvinism. Women in the Witcher are depicted the way they are, because male abuse their strength and position. Then again, the Sorcerers (mostly women) are a manipulative, envious, back-stabbing divas. Forcing equality would mean destroying the lore and the staples of this particular universe.

A shame really you abandoned your playthrough. I am a male and have no problem 'feeling' different characters; be that Geralt from the Witcher, Lara from Tomb Raider, Nilin from Remember Me, Jensen from Deus Ex and so forth. The gender does not pose an issue to me, since it's about understanding why a given character is the way he/she is, what's his/her motivations etc. I can easily 'get into' Lara, because I can see the concept behind her and the emotions that influence her. It has nothing to do with gender. We are all human beings and perceive concepts of love, justice, inequity etc. outside of gender. In the instance of Lara, even though I'm male, I could relate to her struggle of transforming from a fragile woman to a survive-at-all-cost hard-ass. All you need to do is look from different perspective.

 

Peace.

[Kentaris]

From other news,

As we know, Bioware have got this wrong again. CD Projekt RED though, seems to get it right, as the release date of The Witcher 3 has been postponed to May 19th in order to add the much needed finishing touch and overall polish.

Don't know where you got your information brah but witcher 3 is still set for release in feb not may..lol

[sophor]

6). There's a whole bunch of quests to gather materials for repairs. Did you do all of them? Just asking.

 

I've done the tower, courtyard, and garden quests. What others are there and where do I find them? Are they requisitions or regular quests?