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[ShieldWarden]

So, after Here Lies the Abyss, you're given a choice on how to deal with the Grey Wardens. Personally, I decided to let them hang around and help against the Red Templars and Demons. While doing various War Table shenanigans, I noticed one pop up about a darkspawn attack is Southern Orlais.

 

After being cautious and finding out it was actually darkspawn and the GW's stepping in to save the day, I was given a choice. The GW's kept offering to help, and I kept sending them in. After they took a mountain to chase a corrupt noblewoman, the report told me that the last mission was costly. They fought valiantly, but now I would no longer be able to use them in battle; they were no longer a force to be reckoned with.

 

After I read that I felt horrible. I love the Wardens.

 

So my question is this... Do you think that will have far-reaching consequences? To the point where I effectively wiped out the Wardens?

[LilyasAvalon]

Er. Sort of.

 

There's not enough Grey Wardens that they could be considered a force in their own right. So, their forces have gone from, let's say, a few hundred, to maybe... a handful.

 

If it makes you feel any better... the Warden's essentially wiped themselves out of Orlais (I'm still not going to speak of Fereldan until I know WHAT happened to Sigrun, Ogrhen and Nate), what with the whole 'let's sacrifice our own men and summon demons' thing, at the very least, they would've been sent back to Weisshaupt to face whatever punishment (if any) the first Warden deemed.

[ShieldWarden]

Yeah, I thought about that, too. Most of the work was done by sacrificing themselves. And for some reason, I completely forgot about Weisshaupt and the fact that there are Wardens all over Thedas, not just in Orlais. I had this gut sickening feeling that I had just demolished them and it'd take decades to recover from. Still might, though, considering the ramifications  of HLtA.

[Lianaar]

And we know that something is terribly amiss at Weisshaupt, but no clue what.
If your hero of Fereldan lives, then (s)he is out looking for a cure for the calling too.
So their story is clearly not at its end.

 

3 wardens could stop the 5th Blight. That gives hope.

[LightningPoodle]

And we know that something is terribly amiss at Weisshaupt, but no clue what.
If your hero of Fereldan lives, then (s)he is out looking for a cure for the calling too.
So their story is clearly not at its end.

 

3 wardens could stop the 5th Blight. That gives hope.

 

One of those was a PC though so that kind off gives them an edge.

[Dandynermite]

If your looking at an actual gameplay story rather than plot story, its no worries, as nothing on the war table affects the game bar resources and influence. Plot wise there are loads of wardens in the Free Marches, Weisshaupt and still some about in Fereldan, they will rebuild

[hong]

What are the possible outcomes for the Wardens anyway? I recruited them into the Inquisition, then they got themselves killed in the war table operations where you face a demon-summoning Orlais noble. The survivors went back north, and apparently now there's a civil war raging in Weisshaupt between them and the Anderfels Wardens. What else could happen?

[azarhal]

What are the possible outcomes for the Wardens anyway? I recruited them into the Inquisition, then they got themselves killed in the war table operations where you face a demon-summoning Orlais noble. The survivors went back north, and apparently now there's a civil war raging in Weisshaupt between them and the Anderfels Wardens. What else could happen?

 

I exiled them (kept Hawke alive), they still went to Weisshaupt and started a civil war. The whole thing ended with the Wardens disappearing...again. Not sure if you sacrifice Hawke if something change in the epilogue.

 

Two things: 

1. For the Orlais/Ferelden Wardens to start a civil war with Weisshaupt, the HQ needs to be under the control of something bad after what happened in Southern Thedas.

2. All the Wardens disappearing less or more suggest that the next Blight is going to last a long while...

[Lianaar]

But maybe there'll be other ways to stop the blight from happening? It seems to me there is a huge race toward stopping the calling and the unblighted arch demons. So instead of being responsive to the blight, some notable people started to take the proactive approach and attempt to prevent the blight. Not necessarily due to wanting to prevent the blight itself, but the focus shifted to the archdemon's origins a lot.

[Medhia_Nox]

Well - it only took two to stop the last Blight... how many do we really need?

[Br3admax]

Considering the First Blight killed every single one, and there were hundreds. Probably a lot. The Fifth Blight was kind of small. 

[eternalshiva]

One can "Save the f**king world, if they're pressed." to quote "Blackwall". Honestly you only need one to kill the archdemon. The rest is NPC fodder to make a path to the dragon.

[ashwind]

 

I like the Wardens so much that I exiled them. Since they had a hand in causing the death of the divine and the demon crap they pulled... I thought sending them away is the only way to protect them from any repercussions... unfortunately according to the epilogue... I failed to save them as well.

[Teshayel]

Two things:
1. For the Orlais/Ferelden Wardens to start a civil war with Weisshaupt, the HQ needs to be under the control of something bad after what happened in Southern Thedas.
2. All the Wardens disappearing less or more suggest that the next Blight is going to last a long while...

Re: #1 - Something worse than Cory?

Hehe First game we had one arch demon, now we have an original magister + his pet, next we're probably going to get another magister + pet + Elven god, and to really spice things up, throw in a real Qunari invasion... Yay for DA4

Edit: Just to stay on topic. The Wardens are not wiped out after the war table missions. There are many left outside of Orlais

[katerinafm]

They die like flies. I think I accidentally wiped them out too.

[azarhal]

Re: #1 - Something worse than Cory?

Hehe First game we had one arch demon, now we have an original magister + his pet, next we're probably going to get another magister + pet + Elven god, and to really spice things up, throw in a real Qunari invasion... Yay for DA4

Edit: Just to stay on topic. The Wardens are not wiped out after the war table missions. There are many left outside of Orlais

 

I was personally thinking of the Architect because he was alive in my world state, and there was that weird Warden stuff in DA2 Act 3 if Nathaniel is alive, but that could be Cory at work.

 

Going by how Solas believes digging for the Old Gods is stooopid, the Wardens probably did something stooopid.

[Gill Kaiser]

Should have had Josie obtain some trebuchets.

[AtreiyaN7]

It depends on who you send on the war table missions. Supposedly, the wrong person on the wrong missions in that chain will lead to them pretty much being wiped out. I recall that someone listed the proper advisor to send on each mission in a different thread, but I don't really remember who was supposed to do what.

 

I believe it's supposed to be Josephine on the very last mission...but the other two, I dunno. Next time around, I may avoid those particular war table missions unless I can get a definitive answer, as I'd rather not be responsible for the deaths of the remaining Wardens after taking massive disapproval hits from almost everyone for sparing them - lol.

[BloodKaiden]

 
I like the Wardens so much that I exiled them. Since they had a hand in causing the death of the divine and the demon crap they pulled... I thought sending them away is the only way to protect them from any repercussions... unfortunately according to the epilogue... I failed to save them as well.

Maybe they didn't deserve to be saved. I'm done with the Wardens.

[Aimi]

Well - it only took two to stop the last Blight... how many do we really need?

Three. The Hero, Alistair or Loghain, and Riordan.

[Icinix]

I wouldn't put any stock in any of the war table fluff. It's purpose is a fun lore way of encouraging people to keep coming back to their game. It's the exact same elements that have made Facebook games so popular.
I'd be incredibly surprised if any of them had any affect on so much as a codex entry in future games.

[azarhal]

All I want to know is... where the hell are the Fereldan Grey Wardens? There're some scattered notes on the Storm Coast. And we're not even sure if it's the journal of an Orlesian Grey Warden looking for someone in Ferelden.

 

Where's Oghren, Nathaniel Howe, Sigrun, and Velanna? Are they still investigating the Primeval Thaig? Did they go to Weisshaupt when the Mage-Templar War broke out? Are they with the Hero of Ferelden searching for a cure to the Calling? What about the Architect and Avernus?

 

BioWare sort of ignored those plot threads and now they're just hanging. I hope these questions get answered.

 

In my game, it was said that the Ferelden Grey Wardens are with the Orlesian Grey Wardens.

[AlexMBrennan]

3 wardens could stop the 5th Blight. That gives hope.

The only reason you need Wardens is because the archdemon cannot be permanently killed otherwise - and there is no reason conventional forces can't help with that (get mages to hold it down or chop off the wings whilst you fetch the warden to strike the killing blow)