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[Gamyu]

And we know that something is terribly amiss at Weisshaupt, but no clue what.
If your hero of Fereldan lives, then (s)he is out looking for a cure for the calling too.
So their story is clearly not at its end.

 

3 wardens could stop the 5th Blight. That gives hope.

 

Well - it only took two to stop the last Blight... how many do we really need?

The Fifth Blight wasn't much of a Blight though.  We stopped it before it can pick up steam.  Just look at the 1st Blight.  After 90 years of Blights, it took 100 years for the newly formed Grey Wardens Order, filled with veteran warriors, to stop it.

All I want to know is... where the hell are the Fereldan Grey Wardens? There're some scattered notes on the Storm Coast. And we're not even sure if it's the journal of an Orlesian Grey Warden looking for someone in Ferelden.

 

Where's Oghren, Nathaniel Howe, Sigrun, and Velanna? Are they still investigating the Primeval Thaig? Did they go to Weisshaupt when the Mage-Templar War broke out? Are they with the Hero of Ferelden searching for a cure to the Calling? What about the Architect and Avernus?

 

BioWare sort of ignored those plot threads and now they're just hanging. I hope these questions get answered.

Well, Stroud said only Orlesian Wardens were hearing the fake Calling, (which actually was created by the Fear Demon, something I just learned). The Ferelden Wardens are small in numbers, and people tend to forget about Wardens when there isn't a Blight. So they could been in the Deep Road fighting Darkspawns for all we know, or just out there but people don't care about them.

[Andreas Amell]

So, after Here Lies the Abyss, you're given a choice on how to deal with the Grey Wardens. Personally, I decided to let them hang around and help against the Red Templars and Demons. While doing various War Table shenanigans, I noticed one pop up about a darkspawn attack is Southern Orlais.

 

After being cautious and finding out it was actually darkspawn and the GW's stepping in to save the day, I was given a choice. The GW's kept offering to help, and I kept sending them in. After they took a mountain to chase a corrupt noblewoman, the report told me that the last mission was costly. They fought valiantly, but now I would no longer be able to use them in battle; they were no longer a force to be reckoned with.

 

After I read that I felt horrible. I love the Wardens.

 

So my question is this... Do you think that will have far-reaching consequences? To the point where I effectively wiped out the Wardens?

I was shocked too when I got that. But I still found Wardens around Skyhold when I walked around. I don't think it holds much consequence to the future of the game.

[TEWR]

All I want to know is... where the hell are the Fereldan Grey Wardens? There're some scattered notes on the Storm Coast. And we're not even sure if it's the journal of an Orlesian Grey Warden looking for someone in Ferelden.

 

Where's Oghren, Nathaniel Howe, Sigrun, and Velanna? Are they still investigating the Primeval Thaig? Did they go to Weisshaupt when the Mage-Templar War broke out? Are they with the Hero of Ferelden searching for a cure to the Calling? What about the Architect and Avernus?

 

BioWare sort of ignored those plot threads and now they're just hanging. I hope these questions get answered.

 

Considering all of those characters can die, I wouldn't be surprised if Bioware used this plot with Adamant to kill them all off neatly.

 

Which would suck ass and annoy me.

[Warden Commander Aeducan]

Maybe they didn't deserve to be saved. I'm done with the Wardens.

Keep believing that until the next Blight begin, and there are no Wardens to stop it.

 

[rpgfan321]

I accidentally did that, too   Thought I was choosing the logical option, but nooooo..... 

 

I don't think they are entirely wiped out, but dwindled the Southern faction of Grey Wardens to a point that they can't really be considered a military force? I'm guessing the numbers were like back in Origins. 

 

I was kind of sad when I read that report, and thought "well, what was the point of giving them a second chance if I can't use them in the future main quests?" Yeah, I felt bad. Oops ._.

[BloodKaiden]

Keep believing that until the next Blight begin, and there are no Wardens to stop it.

Oh please, at the end of the day all we would need is the Hero of Fereldan. There is no need for a whole organization when two members were able to end the Blight. Be pro-Warden all you want but really you only need one Warden every decade or so to end the Blight, not an entire organization.

[Decepticon Leader Sully]

Short answer...Nope

Long answer Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooope

they are a nebulous order and i doupt that there are only arround 30 of them.

[Teshayel]

I was personally thinking of the Architect because he was alive in my world state, and there was that weird Warden stuff in DA2 Act 3 if Nathaniel is alive, but that could be Cory at work.

 

All my saves were screwed when I imported them into DA2, and Nathaniel never showed up   He was alive and well when I finished Awakening.

 

It would be nice to at least get some DLC that reveals the fate of the Architect

[Mr.House]

This is why you send Josie....

[Br3admax]

Actually it's Cullen, Leliana, Leliana, Josephine, Josephine. 

[Notshauna]

Honestly the Orlesian Wardens are SEVERELY weakened no matter your actions, to the status of the Ferelden Wardens come the Fifth Blight. Hell, that's pretty global, even as a unified force the Wardens are weaker than say the Denerim Guard and have been since the the Fourth Blight. The fact of the matter is the fifth blight certainly increased enrollment but it's shortness lead to the lack of a overwhelming amount of Wardens being recruited.

[Warden Commander Aeducan]

Oh please, at the end of the day all we would need is the Hero of Fereldan. There is no need for a whole organization when two members were able to end the Blight. Be pro-Warden all you want but really you only need one Warden every decade or so to end the Blight, not an entire organization.

I take it you didn't know how bad the previous Blights are, it almost destroy the entire nation, and it took a large group of wardens and alliance nations to stop it. Be a hater if you must, but it's unwise to dismiss the entire organization while there are two more Blights, and Darkspawn is still around.

[Gamyu]

Oh please, at the end of the day all we would need is the Hero of Fereldan. There is no need for a whole organization when two members were able to end the Blight. Be pro-Warden all you want but really you only need one Warden every decade or so to end the Blight, not an entire organization.

Of course you just one Grey Warden to land the killing strike on the Archdemon, but how is s/he alone going to land the strike on a flying dragon with the sea of Darkspawns between them?

I really starting to hate this "2 Wardens ended the Fifth Blight thing;" hearing Vivienne said it in game made me hate her too. The Fifth Blight was much of a Blight, it barely pick up steam by the time of the Battle of Denerim. If you want a real Blight, look up the First Blight through Fourth Blight. The First Blight itself took 192 years with thousands of Wardens until that one Warden you need finally land that strike.

But with how things are going for the Grey Wardens Order, you might get your wish with the next 2 Blights.

[thesuperdarkone2]

I wonder how many people exiled the Wardens and killed the Architect because you just doomed Thedas if another blight occurs.

[Gamyu]

I wonder how many people exiled the Wardens and killed the Architect because you just doomed Thedas if another blight occurs.

Uhh.....the Southern Wardens numbers are in the low dozens now, yes, but there are about 1,000 Wardens stationed in Weisshaupt, and dozens or few hundred in other nations. Thedas is not doomed if another Blight starts, although the numbers of Wardens are indeed not that good, but it had been 400 years since the 4th Blight, a real Blight that people remember the importance about Grey Wardens, after all. Something is going on in Weisshaupt though...

[thesuperdarkone2]

Uhh.....the Southern Wardens numbers are in the low dozens now, yes, but there are about 1,000 Wardens stationed in Weisshaupt, and dozens or few hundred in other nations. Thedas is not doomed if another Blight starts, although the numbers of Wardens are indeed not that good, but it had been 400 years since the 4th Blight, a real Blight that people remember the importance about Grey Wardens, after all. Something is going on in Weisshaupt though...

The exiled wardens ending pretty much says all southern and northern wardens are recalled and the grey wardens will likely stop existing as a result of the exile. Also, considering that some characters believe the wardens are a relic of the past even 10 years after the blight pretty much shows that even after a recent blight, people are ungrateful SOB's who think the grey wardens should stop existing altogether.

[Chronoreaper]

can blame people like Loghain(before he becomes a warden) about that they push for this as the Wardens are a easy political target by saying how theres not gonna be another blight or that theres only so more that can happen then what then? basically people hate the Wardens as they are slandered by NPCs or even just hated by common people normal reaction in a rough guess(laughed when I wrote this if I was to hear it ingame) 'why didn't wasn't the blight ended sooner? the wardens aren't doing there job right'

[Blackstork]

after completing that darkspawn mission i have dudes left, and there are plently of GW in Keep by end of the game. I think around 15-20 hanging around with Templars and Orlesian Chevaliers. So no worries, they are not wiped, you have alot of them in the Keep.

Go and walk and look for guys in blue armours with GW sign on it. There mages and Warriors. 

[LilyasAvalon]

One of those was a PC though so that kind off gives them an edge.

 

Plot armour, ******.

 

If anyone has read the Last Flight, the Warden's at Weisshaupt are up to something in their own right.

 

Spoiler

They've been looking at records that show talking darkspawn and darkspawn controlling their own wardens. This could've just been really shitty foreshadowing for Corypheus, but ... let's not forget, he didn't go into the Golden City alone. And there's still the Architect. Also, Griffon's are back. Just one clutch, but it's hope.

 

I'm hoping for an expansion or DLC.

[BloodKaiden]

I take it you didn't know how bad the previous Blights are, it almost destroy the entire nation, and it took a large group of wardens and alliance nations to stop it. Be a hater if you must, but it's unwise to dismiss the entire organization while there are two more Blights, and Darkspawn is still around.

 

Not at all, I realize how terrible and brutal the previous Blights were. I just don't believe the Wardens are as relevant as they once were in the past. The Wardens are not the only ones with the ability to fight Darkspawn, sure they hold advantages to combat them via immunity to the taint and the ability to sense but I have never hold them on a pedestal as being the supreme heroes Thedas citizens think they are. I'm not a hater just because the Wardens don't give me a hard on every time they are on screen.

 

Of course you just one Grey Warden to land the killing strike on the Archdemon, but how is s/he alone going to land the strike on a flying dragon with the sea of Darkspawns between them?
I really starting to hate this "2 Wardens ended the Fifth Blight thing;" hearing Vivienne said it in game made me hate her too. The Fifth Blight was much of a Blight, it barely pick up steam by the time of the Battle of Denerim. If you want a real Blight, look up the First Blight through Fourth Blight. The First Blight itself took 192 years with thousands of Wardens until that one Warden you need finally land that strike.
But with how things are going for the Grey Wardens Order, you might get your wish with the next 2 Blights.

So you need an army of Grey Wardens rather than having nations of Thedas band together to end a Blight? Sorry, imo you just need a handful of Wardens to combat a Blight effectively if the treaties call forth the alliances its suppose to. Currently the Grey Warden Order is a joke and I really don't see Bioware having another game focus on the Blight. Especially with the time period between such conflicts. Viv can be a ****** but she makes a lot of valid points when it comes to both the Circles and maintaining order to Thedas.

[hong]

The exiled wardens ending pretty much says all southern and northern wardens are recalled and the grey wardens will likely stop existing as a result of the exile.

It sounds like that's the epilogue for the Wardens regardless of your choice. At least noone's mentioned any other outcome.

[Fishy]

Oh please, at the end of the day all we would need is the Hero of Fereldan. There is no need for a whole organization when two members were able to end the Blight. Be pro-Warden all you want but really you only need one Warden every decade or so to end the Blight, not an entire organization.

 

But not everyone is the Hero of Ferelden ! Grey Warden who were supposed to be fantastic warrior are dispatched quite easily by my Inquisitor( Who I think is more of a leader than a fighter. It even pointed out by some companion and npc several time). 

[BloodKaiden]

But not everyone is the Hero of Ferelden ! Grey Warden who were supposed to be fantastic warrior are dispatched quite easily by my Inquisitor( Who I think is more of a leader than a fighter. It even pointed out by some companion and npc several time).

True, yet most of the Grey Wardens we fought shouldn't have been worthy of being GW's anyway. I dont have an issue with the use of blood magic, I have an issue with them being stupid about it.

[ashwind]

I wonder how many people exiled the Wardens and killed the Architect because you just doomed Thedas if another blight occurs.

 

I did. Not exiling the Wardens is pretty dumb imo. You cannot keep the fact that the Wardens had a hand in the Divine's death forever. If they remain, they are at risk of being prosecuted by some zealots. They will also put the Inquisition in a very difficult position. Not to mention that they are susceptible to Corypheus. 

 

Blights do not happen every 10 years. Without the Architect waking up Archdemons, I am pretty sure I can afford to give the Warden a vacation.

[Iakus]

It sounds like that's the epilogue for the Wardens regardless of your choice. At least noone's mentioned any other outcome.

Indeed.  I allied with the Wardens, and Weisshaupt still goes silent.