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[Dragenlady89]

I play a female inquisitor, mage. Started a romance with Cullen and I really dont know what to do when the cutscene and topic about Cullens Lysium adiction comes up again. Can Cullen die or go mad if he does not take Lyrium?

[SpiritMuse]

Well, there is a good chance that he'll end the relationship if you have him take it, so that's also something to take into account. It may be possible to continue it if you choose the right dialogue options, but I'm not sure.

[Deanna]

Nothing will happen if he doesn't take it, you'll hear Leliana ask him how he's doing at the war table and he says 'just a headache' or something like that. If you are romancing him you can tell him to temporarily take the lyrium and it wont end the relationship but you have to promise him that yall will find a safer way after Cory is dealt with.

[CizzyChaos]

Hm.. That's disappointing. 

Isn't it supposed to be a very painful process to stop taking lyrium?

That he dies or goes mad would probably be a bit too far.. But just nothing? That's really lame

[Deanna]

I thought so too but Cullen has strong willpower and well, mind over matter right? I think they should've at least showed him becoming worn down and struggling with the withdrawals if he completely stops, I mean him stumbling and complaining about a headache seems pretty light compared to the lyrium deprived templar you find in the dungeons in Denerim in origins. They could've made him snap at someone out of irritation or SOMETHING lol

[eternalshiva]

He struggles quite a bit during the story, he speaks to Cassandra, flips his s**t in his office, has nightmares - talks about it during the Samson mission. If you let him take the Lyrium again, his whole attitude changes and his own personal disapointment and his reliance on the stuff really shakes him.

 

There's no tortured scene of withdrawl, if that's what you're looking for, but it's spoken and seen in his quests, comments from other people and in the epilogue, if you choose the templar path, it's mentioned and also the rescued templars follow suite with his decision to stop taking Lyrium.

[Deanna]

That's right, duh. *facepalm* I guess I was expecting a bit more if he stayed off the stuff. It was still hard seeing him go thru all that I was scared for him poor Cullen.

[MightyZan]

It's probably not all hardcore also because it's been almost a year.  All the really bad detoxing would have already happened.  He would still have a hard time, and struggles, and pain, etc, but it wouldn't be to the level that the first month or so would be.

[Moirin]

He ends the relationship if you make him take it again? Interesting. I didn't know that.

[Cerulione]

He ends the relationship if you make him take it again? Interesting. I didn't know that.

 

Yes, he basically agonizing on the choice of "gaining control of his life" (stop lyrium) or his duties for the inquisition which require his full attention (take lyrium). If you force him to take lyrium again he'll basically dump the romanced Inquisitor because "both of them must focus on their duty" and the relationship becomes more or less distant. It feels like making him a robot.

 

Well, at least that's what I saw on my PT, I romanced him & reload & told him to take Lyrium... that was harsh, I just can't do that even if I told him that's because I don't want to see him die.

 

However if you tell him that "take lyrium now & we'll find safer way later" he'll not dump the inquisitor but still that's weird & much more angsty than if you just encourage him to not taking it.

[Eggplant Hell Princess]

Does anyone have a video of Cullen dumping the Inquisitor? I keep hearing about it and I am so hungering for the juicy drama.

[Deanna]

Yea I would like to see a video as well I don't think I could stand seeing Cullen break up with my inquisitor </3

[Mistress9Nine]

Yeah. I had him stop taking the lyrium and thought there may be consequnces, but then realized that he has plot armor. i was proven right when he later thanked me for making me stop him and it all turned out for the best with zero consequnces. I guess it'd have been a bad moral to let an addict destroy themselves for the sake of their comfort? Who knows, maybe in DA4 we will hear about him going crazy, just to spite us.

[CENIC]

I told him to keep taking it until the war was over.

During the final cutscene with Cullen before the final battle, he mentions the fact that he's still taking lyrium and how he feels like he's broken his promise to himself. And after the final battle, when you talk to him at the party in Skyhold, you can pick the option "I made you a promise" to bring up helping him quit. That was actually pretty sweet, because the Inquisitor said "It's a good time for a fresh start."

[MuhidinSaid]

It's been said that templars may not even need to take lyrium to develop their abilities, I know it's not really related to Cullen's case but it's more or less used by the Chantry to control the templars.

[zeypher]

Nope, templars need to take lyrium. They got no powers without it. Only seekers do and that is completely another sack of cats. 

[frylock23]

Hmph! Not everyone who struggles with stuff does so in an open and angsty dramatic manner for all to see.

 

Some of us keep our pain to ourselves because we have willpower.

[Shinobu]

Nope, templars need to take lyrium. They got no powers without it. Only seekers do and that is completely another sack of cats. 

 

Was this retconned from DA:O? Alistair didn't take Lyrium, nor did the Warden if he taught her the Templar specialization.

[DarkKnightHolmes]

He'll probably be nuts or dead by the time DA4 rolls around.

[errantknight]

Was this retconned from DA:O? Alistair didn't take Lyrium, nor did the Warden if he taught her the Templar specialization.

Apparently it was, in one of the comics. I either missed it or was so offended by such a massive and inexplicable retcon that I blocked it from my mind.

[ctd757]

Well he said he stopped once he left the Templars so it's been months

[frylock23]

I'd imagine it has to do in part with how much you took, how often and how prone you are to being addicted. Different people are going to have different degrees of trouble getting off the sauce.

[Hazegurl]

He'll just magically get better because...happy ending for everyone!

[Korva]

Apparently it was, in one of the comics. I either missed it or was so offended by such a massive and inexplicable retcon that I blocked it from my mind.

 

Ugh. In a way I suppose it makes sense, but a retcon like this remains annoying no matter what. My Warden was a templar/champion, and I hesitated to go for the former precisely because I didn't want her to turn into a broken addict. Being a Warden is a heavy enough burden as it is. Makes me wonder how the two managed to secure enough lyrium for all the anti-magic nuking they did during the Blight.

 

 

That's right, duh. *facepalm* I guess I was expecting a bit more if he stayed off the stuff.

 

"I was hoping/expecting for a bit more" is pretty much the summary for all the companion/advisor interaction and development in the game ...