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[Chari]

The Warden, of course

I feel conflicted about both Hawke and the Inquisitor

On one hand, Hawke seems more interesting because the Inquisitor is blank even for a blank character. There is not much roleplaying or established personality. Shepard was a better blank voiced character than the Inquisitor is. It's actually fun playing Hawke because she/he feels like an actual character. and it's more interesting to play as the Warden because I can actually imagine myself in her place or give her whatever personality, expression I can imagine. Lots of dialogue choices which are sometimes pointless but good for RPing. The Inquisitor is way too... neutral

On the other hand, after Hawke's little trash speech about the Wardens and acting like a total jerk I just want to punch her in the face. I ain't even kidding, I used to joke about Hawke because I was annoyed solely by DA2's bad writing, pacing etc, now I'm actually annoyed by Hawke. If I didn't care about Carver and Fenris I'd just leave her to die in the Fade. Plus, getting this "THE CHAMPION" title pushed into my face and not getting actual explanation why the heck this title even matters is getting on my nerves. What Champion? Champion of what? Kirkwall? Unless Hawke sided with Templars he/she failed the citizens of Kirkwall. She/he didn't really accomplish anything to be regarded as a famous hero. Killing people does not make one famous, that is not unique. I get it, Bioware, you love Hawke for whatever reason. I don't

 

So far: 

The Warden>The Inquisitor>The Serault guy/gal>The Hawke

[TheLittleBird]

Plus, getting this "THE CHAMPION" title pushed into my face and not getting actual explanation why the heck this title even matters is getting on my nerves. What Champion? Champion of what? Kirkwall? Unless Hawke sided with Templars he/she failed the citizens of Kirkwall. She/he didn't really accomplish anything to be regarded as a famous hero. Killing people does not make one famous, that is not unique. I get it, Bioware, you love Hawke for whatever reason. I don't

 

Hawke was the Champion of Kirkwall because of him/her saving the city from the Qunari. Whether or not the title actually still holds any meaning post-DA2 is debatable.

[Tarvesh]

Warden>Inquisitor>Hawke

The Warden was taken from their home and gets a Blight, a Civil War, and army of abominations/demons, quest for the Holy Grale (ashes of Andraste), a mystery of ancient elves and werewolves, and an Archdemin thrown at them. The Warden tears through every challenge right out of the box. Superior power and story for me.

The Inquisitor survives a giant explosion that basically destory's a mountain, ends the Mage/Templar conflict, raises an army, and kills an ancient Magister (which apparently just translates to power Mage) who uses elven artifacts and a tainted dragon.

Hawke's biggest story accomplishment was waking up an ancient magister. He killed a tough Qunari and a lyrium maddened Templar.

There's a reason Cassandra and Leliana hunted for the Warden first. There's no questioning the badassery of the Warden.

But when they couldn't find the Warden, They defaulted to Hawke because they thought he was the cause of the war so maybe he could stop it.

Luckily, they stumbled into the Inquisitor.

[TheLittleBird]

Nah. The Warden has too much willpower. There would have been an explosion like the Ultimate Sacrfice ending. But then as the smoke clears the Warden emerges unfazed brushing the dust off of his armor and limps towards Morrigan for a victorious embrace with her bosom.

 

 

I detect sarcasm here. But I'm not sure how to read into it when taking your other comment into account.

[Chari]

Hawke was the Champion of Kirkwall because of him/her saving the city from the Qunari. Whether or not the title actually still holds any meaning post-DA2 is debatable.

It's just that I keep hearing "The Champion! Can you believe it? The Champion!" as if Bioware are still trying to convince players that Hawke is "the most important person" in the Dragon Age universe as they tried to previously. And it's getting annoying. I respect Hawke as a warrior, mage, rogue but titles like this require some kind of a heroic act, an epic quest, a grand adventure or at least an essential role in sth very important. Which leads to two possibilities: 1)if the Hawke sided with the Templars then okay. She fought the rebel mages and helped to keep order in the city. Good title; 2)if she sided with the Mages then she fled. Even if she was actually interested in the mage revellion then "champion" is a wrong word. Especially the "champion of Kirkwall" because, eh, her potential boyfriend kinda blew up the city she was supposed to save, so... Weird, unfitting. Maybe "the champion of mages". Plus since when Kirkwall is so important that being its champion is a big deal? Why aren't we hearing about champions of Denerim, Orlais, qunandar etc? 

Plus Hawke doesn't have to fight the Arishok. One may give him Isabela and stop the fighting. Plus the qunari themselves treat it like a mistake and don't consider worth mentioning. And it doesn't become a big thing after. Everyone remembers Hawke due to the Mages vs Templars conflict. and in this case the title "champion" is just weird

Pluses everywhere

[Cerulione]

My favourite is still the Hero of Ferelden. Because her/his story is the most epic of all. My canon HoF is a Circle Mage (but Dwarf Commonor or City Elf also relates) who, despite being seen as either a threat or a second class citizen, sacrifice herself/himself to save the world. Or the noble Aeducan/Cousland who started grand & then fall, then reawakens as Warden only to gives their life for the greater good in the end. Leaving behind friends & love ones. How epic is that? Really epic & tragic.

 

What I love from my Warden is the possibility of him/her to choose to die in the end. Not many games offer that possibility.

[TheLittleBird]

It's just that I keep hearing "The Champion! Can you believe it? The Champion!" as if Bioware are still trying to convince players that Hawke is "the most important person" in the Dragon Age universe as they tried to previously. And it's getting annoying. I respect Hawke as a warrior, mage, rogue but titles like this require some kind of a heroic act, an epic quest, a grand adventure or at least an essential role in sth very important. Which leads to two possibilities: 1)if the Hawke sided with the Templars then okay. She fought the rebel mages and helped to keep order in the city. Good title; 2)if she sided with the Mages then she fled. Even if she was actually interested in the mage revellion then "champion" is a wrong word. Especially the "champion of Kirkwall" because, eh, her potential boyfriend kinda blew up the city she was supposed to save, so... Weird, unfitting. Maybe "the champion of mages". Plus since when Kirkwall is so important that being its champion is a big deal? Why aren't we hearing about champions of Denerim, Orlais, qunandar etc? 

Plus Hawke doesn't have to fight the Arishok. One may give him Isabela and stop the fighting. Plus the qunari themselves treat it like a mistake and don't consider worth mentioning. And it doesn't become a big thing after. Everyone remembers Hawke due to the Mages vs Templars conflict. and in this case the title "champion" is just weird

Pluses everywhere

 

My Hawke gave Isabela to the Arishok. That's still saving the city from a Qunari threat.

 

Hawke had a very important role in an essential story (the whole Kirkwall Incident), so he/she is known across all of Thedas. And while I agree that 'Champion' may be a title that doesn't correspond with Hawke anymore after the rebellion at Kirkwall, a title like that is a very powerful thing. Once Hawke becomes known across Thedas as the 'Champion of Kirkwall', it doesn't matter if he/she remains a champion after that. If they're known as that, they'll be recognized as that. Simple as that.

[dsl08002]

The hero of ferelden no doubt

Second place is hawke.

I still thinks that a joint adventure of warden and hawke is a good idea after DA2

[TheLittleBird]

It's not sarcasm. That's what would actually happen. Sort of like the battle of wills between Envy and the Inquisitor except Corypheus actually blows up when he loses. The Warden is the most capable person in Thedas. It's why they can't ever cameo (even if I really want them to). If or when they do cameo the protagonist would just default to the Warden's command. 

 

Just accept it. It's easier this way.

 

Alright, if that's what you believe, fine. To each their own.

[dsl08002]

Also we still got 2 more old gods in the deep roads.

The HoF as protganist i wouldnt count out as yet

[Chari]

My Hawke gave Isabela to the Arishok. That's still saving the city from a Qunari threat.

 

Hawke had a very important role in an essential story (the whole Kirkwall Incident), so he/she is known across all of Thedas. And while I agree that 'Champion' may be a title that doesn't correspond with Hawke anymore after the rebellion at Kirkwall, a title like that is a very powerful thing. Once Hawke becomes known across Thedas as the 'Champion of Kirkwall', it doesn't matter if he/she remains a champion after that. If they're known as that, they'll be recognized as that. Simple as that.

What role? An errand boy? And in what story? You mean qunari "invasion"? Because as far as I know qunari attacking Thedas is nothing new, really. You don't hear tevinterians calling their magisters cool titles just because they kill another Arishok. That keeps happenning all the time. Heck, small conflicts between countries happen constantly. That's normal. And qunari attack was hardly an invasion. A misunderstanding at best. If Hawke deals with the conflict peacefully then a title "Peacemaker", "Negotiator" would be more fitting. Even if Hawke does kill the Arishok - again, it is not unique. As a champion Hawke kinda fails. And as far as I know Kirkwall isn't important enough from political and economical point of view. Otherwise it wouldn't be such a shithole (at least visually. Thriving economy wouldn't allow that)

If you mean the Mages vs Templars conflict then as I said it matters only if Hawke supports the Templars. Otherwise it is ironic since Hawke fails to defend their city and citizens and then flees

Again - Hawke just doesn't deserve such a grand title and awe. Unless the rumours were really good thanks Varric

[The_Shade]

Inquisitor=Warden>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Hawke 

 

Hawke for me isn't even on the same level as either the Warden or the Inquisitor. No matter what decisions you make, 

the 'Champion of Kirkwall' fails to prevent a Quanri war despite trying, could not stop the Mage-Templar conflict despite the catalyst 

being her/his closest companion or romance interest and worst of all, letting the an Ancient Magister escape from Warden prison. Especially,

when the Warden Coryphereus was clearly controlling was literally RIGHT IN FRONT OF THEM! Furthermore, if Hawke keeps Anders alive, a THIRD

war persists in Kirkwall between Kirkwall's guard and Sebastian's holy crusade. Hence, precipitating more conflict within the walls of Kirkwall before

Hawke even turned up.

 

Let's be honest too. The issues that Hawke 'solved' could have been solved with or without her. They did nothing exceptional. I'm sure the Mages and Templars without Hawke could have collectively taken the Quanri if need be. For the Warden or the Inquisitor it would probably make a half decent side mission after closing a rift from pride demons or recruiting a faction by travelling the deep roads of Darkspawn. Champion, meh. 

[2_BR4ZIL_2]

My Warden is surely the most powerful, He is a Arcane Warrior, wears heavy armor and calls firestorm on your ass.

 

But i really like my Inquisitor too (human warrior), he is more powerful in the political sense.

 

As for Hawke... he is kinda there...

[TheLittleBird]

What role? An errand boy? And in what story? You mean qunari "invasion"? Because as far as I know qunari attacking Thedas is nothing new, really. You don't hear tevinterians calling their magisters cool titles just because they kill another Arishok. That keeps happenning all the time. Heck, small conflicts between countries happen constantly. That's normal. And qunari attack was hardly an invasion. A misunderstanding at best. If Hawke deals with the conflict peacefully then a title "Peacemaker", "Negotiator" would be more fitting. Even if Hawke does kill the Arishok - again, it is not unique. As a champion Hawke kinda fails. And as far as I know Kirkwall isn't important enough from political and economical point of view. Otherwise it wouldn't be such a shithole (at least visually. Thriving economy wouldn't allow that)

If you mean the Mages vs Templars conflict then as I said it matters only if Hawke supports the Templars. Otherwise it is ironic since Hawke fails to defend their city and citizens and then flees

Again - Hawke just doesn't deserve such a grand title and awe. Unless the rumours were really good thanks Varric

 

It's a tradition in the Free Marches. From the wiki:

 

"This title is bestowed, only by a city ruler, on an individual who has proven her/his dedication to the city in blood, sweat, and leadership . The title is not necessarily a sign of honor, for a Champion can utilize methods that evoke love or fear."

 

Like it or not, Hawke, or the Champion of Kirkwall, became known throughout Thedas after the Qunari attacked the city, and had a pivotal role in the Kirkwall Rebellion during the Annulment of the Circle.

I never said Hawke should defend the city. Never. What I said was that a title like 'Champion', when it becomes attached to your name, sticks. Whether or now Hawke actually lives up to the title is irrelevant. 

[TheJediSaint]

Which one out of these 3 heroes do you enjoy more? which one do you believe is more powerful? in Solo combat and Party combat.

Yes.

[tobynator89]

Personally I enjoyed the intimate story of hawke the most

[Gamyu]

I love dual-wielding warrior...so I'm going with my Warden.

[Frybread76]

The Hero of Ferelden.  As an unvoiced protagonist, he felt more like my own character than either Hawke or the Inquisitor.

[Red of Rivia]

If the Canon Bioware would leave the Warden alive , he would end the Corypheus , there would be Inquisitor and no one would seek the Hawk for help. I doubt the Corypheus could do it slave.

[Icinix]

Warden. By the end of awakening they were unstoppable.
Hawke too me was just lucky.
The Herald was all about the people around them.

That said, as the last unvoiced character of BioWares with a host of roleplaying options, I'll always have an affinity with the Warden that causes bias.

[Massa FX]

Warden and Inquisitor->Hawke

 

I'm enjoying my Inq's so much, but just love my Wardens and that story.

 

Shepard trumps all tho'.

[Renmiri1]

Inquisitor > Hawke > Warden

Same here

 

To be honest I loved my Warden to pieces but i was pretty satisfied with ending his story in Awakenings. Unless Alistair and my cousland Warden can have a brat (which they can't because of the taint)   I see no reason to go back to her.

Love Hawke but she is chilling with Anders in a hideout least someone kills "Blondie" so I'm also pretty chill on not playing her

 

Quizzy needs more content though. Solas has to explain to her why...