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[dsajorje3]

Didn't think anyone would top the warden, but my qunari inquisitor is my favorite because he's flawed and made some wrong decisions. My first warden was a mary sue(I was an rpg noob) who wanted to please everyone and be alistair's queen(Really?! I love shoes too! I agree morrigan, love is unnecessary! Here's a gift!).  I don't care about hawke. I think the warden makes the best jerk though, has the funniest evil dialogue options

[Arisugawa]

For my own enjoyment?

 

Hawke > Warden > Inquisitor

 

Don't get me wrong. These are not vast gaps. I love all of my characters dearly. It's not as though I hate the Inquisitor. Merely if push comes to shove and you make me choose favorites, it's Hawke.

 

[Elynna Amell]

Hm. In single combat Ferelden's Commander of the Grey (HF Mage; Spirit Healer/ Arcane Warrior/ Battle Mage) absolutely can't be beat. She's a one woman army. Even the Harvester was something of a cakewalk for her.

I'd like to say that in close quarters/ urban/ guerilla fighting Hawke (Male Rogue; Assassin/ Shadow) would easily be the best, but really, even if assailants got the drop on the Hero of Ferelden, she'd turn the tide fairly quickly and cleanly. My Hawke also couldn't go solo the way she could. Hawke's lucky that I headcanon that he meets up with his (second) cousin-- though that's largely because she wants to know how in the Maker's name he managed to screw up so spectacularly.

In term of large scale warfare or political intrigue, however, the Inquisitor has it locked down. While the HoF has a certain amount of political cachet due to reputation, it's in no way the same as the Inquisitor's, and since it's not a Blight is largely just novelty value. Yes, she's the mistress of the King of Ferelden and his Chancellor to boot, in addition to being the Arlessa of Amaranthine and Warden-Commander of Ferelden, but the actual importance of any of that is largely local to Ferelden, which is perhaps the most backwater country in all Thedas. Her status as a mage, while an Aequitarian one (who was loyal to Justinia and followed Wynne on those matters) tends to damage her reputation. And while she's rebuilt the wardens of Ferelden to a certain degree their numbers are incredibly insignificant to what the Inquisitor can field or the overall influence they can have when there isn't a Blight.

Since Hawke sided with the mages, he's fairly hated by the average person and the templars... And hardcore libertarian mages aren't thrilled he killed Anders. Really his only political connections are through the HoF, Cullen, Varric and Sebastian Vael. He'd never be able to field an army-- he really wouldn't want to-- and the less politically visible he is, the happier he is. Hawke really doesn't have a dog in any aspect of this fight.

While I definitely think that the HoF could easily beat the Inquisitor (HN male; Templar) in single combat, he'd actually give her some trouble, unlike Hawke who'd go down fairly easily. The Inquisitor is ~12 years older than the HoF (headcanon) and has been a templar serving Ostwick's Circle since he was 10. He's got all the templar specs filled out and would try to force the HoF to rely on her blade skills to beat him, which are not inconsiderable in and of themselves. Nonetheless, the sheer power of the Inquisition almost makes this question moot... While it's interesting from a gameplay perspective, just seeing what is at your disposal as the Inquisitor is worth 10K HoFs. 

In terms of personalities? Elynna Amell > Alberech Trevelyan > Gareth Hawke. If I tried to sum up Elynna, she'd come off as a goody-two-shoes, but the amount of time and effort I've put into developing her story is ridiculous; I'm so attached. Honestly, as I get lore about Inquisition I'm steadily trying to anticipate how she would react to various things, even still. Because Inquisition has very nearly handed us as close to a blank slate as I'd want to get in a BioWare game, it's necessitated my developing out my Inquisitors before I play them. So Alberech had a fairly good history, was an actual person with actual reason to be at the conclave and stay in the Inquisition as things are all going down. Even down to how he interacts with companions has been anticipated. And now I can 100% see how the Greagoir/ Irving dynamic came about in DA:O; Alberech has something of that same grudging respect for Vivienne and her policies, even though she's a mage. And while I do love Hawke, he simply doesn't feel like my character. I didn't need to develop him terribly well. He's a sarcastic, loveable rogue who doesn't want responsibility but sympathizes with the mages because of his sister and father. At the end of DA2 I definitely decided he ran away with Isabela to become a pirate. That's about the extent of how much I planned Hawke, and BioWare has officially killed that theory; there wouldn't have been enough gold in Antiva for my Hawke to come help the Inquisition.

[Massa FX]

My Shepard died with Thane.

 

 

I'm moved by your mourning. (My Shepard lives. All of them do.)

[NoForgiveness]

I like the warden the least because of the whole "I'm an emotionless automaton" thing. Hawke is in the middle. Mainly because I'm stuck as a human and female(I absolutely hate male Hawke's voice). And the inquisitor gets first because I can actually play any race/gender combo(except male elf) and not be a zombie too.

[Corwyn]

Yep. Hawke was the most human for me. The bulk of her problems were real life problems which helped me to empathize with her more.

Who can't relate to having their mother turned into a Frankenstein monster?

 

I kid, I kid I also enjoyed Hawke the most to because they felt to the most real, the Warden and the Inquisitor both felt to bland because they were trying to make them blank slates for the player.  I understand why people might prefer that but personally I like my characters more fleshed out.  

 

Also I liked that Hawke seemed more like a regular person doing what they could in a messed up situation not some all powerful messiah figure that rose from nobody to deciding the ruler of Chantry and the most powerful nation in Thedas in few months.   

[Wolfen09]

Warden and inquistor are equal, my warden slew tons of darkspawn, a high dragon, the architect, the mother, the Harvester, the Arterral, and an archdemon...  The inquisitor slays 10 high dragons, Corypheus's dragon (anti-climatically of course, compared to the other dragons), Samson/Calpernia, knight commander denam/fiona, slapped around alexius or killed an envy demon, and put what we think is an end to Corypheus....  They both have organizations behind them, although the grey wardens have been losing ground here lately thanks to all the screw ups....

 

Hawke.... well.... Hawke killed a high dragon, an arterral, the harvester, quite a few people who had already broken their legs from jumping down from roofs, crazy meredith, a rock wraith, and slapped around a half asleep corypheus....  While notable, hawke's victories just seem kind of average compared to the other 2... plus anders was present, and as they say, you are the company you keep....

[GalacticDonuts]

HoF of course, he was the ultimate mage a AW/SH/BM neither the Inquisitor nor Champion could take him.

 

Warden>Inquisitor>Hawke

[Han Shot First]

Champion would knock them out in single combat, but really, who goes out in the field without friends. I imagine that Hawke doesn't really give commands and she just trust her companions to watch her back.

 

 

I'm not so sure about that. The Warden has defeated more impressive foes than Hawke. If Loghain's statement (quoting Maric) about people being defined by the quality of their enemies is true, then I think the Warden must come away with the edge.

[Maverick_One]

I will pick Rogue HoF, Mage Hawke, and Warrior Inquistior.

 

I would argue My Reaver Inquisitor and Knight Enchanter Inquisitor would come out on top. I got The hard hitter achievement with my Reaver. I can't remember HoF, or Hawke getting over 1000 damage in single blow. Though the Focus Abilities is what gives my Warrior and Mage Inquisitors the Edge. Rogues I'd pick My HoF however. He can dual wield other stuff besides daggers. Plus he spent time learning to be a duelist from a certain Rivaini. 

[helpthisguyplease]

You know the Inquisitor can rip you to shreds by opening a fade rift in you now lets see HOF or Hawke block that.

[Cat Fancy]

F/M/K:Inquisitor/Hawke/Warden

 

I found it hard to care about the Warden. I find it difficult to care about unvoiced main characters. The only thing I can say about him for sure is that he's still keeping the Wardens' secrets after all these years, which makes it hard for me to like him. Also, he's still with Zevran? Yeah, he was the only queer guy in camp, but can he really not do better? You know what, maybe he can't. Sorry, Zevheads, that was mean.

 

I felt Hawke had more of a personality than the Inquisitor, even if that personality was insane. ("humorous" dialogue, although I mostly played diplomatic) I'm not sure the Inquisitor feels as fully formed as Hawke, but maybe that'll change it time. Part of the problem is probably that the Inquisitor can have a more diverse background than Hawke. I've played non-human Inquisitors both times, and I can tell this was game was designed for humans. Some of the Inquisitor's dialogue is a little awkward at times because of this. I'm not upset about this; it makes sense that they'd prioritize humans. This is just an explanation as to why Hawke feels like a more well-developed character to me at this point.

 

I guess we'll see where I really stand if I have to make a Sophie's Choice in any future games.

[Sexxibrunette]

Warden -> Inquisitor

 

 

 

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I'm still sad what they did to the wardens

Also, I didn't like the small part Alistair/Warden Queen ( or wtv you picked)  played in the game, they gave so much importance to Hawke yet the "hero of ferelden" barely gets mentioned! Not cool! I would have liked to see an alliance between the kingdoms of Orlais, Ferelden and also yes Hawke playing her/his part. The whole time the king is by himself because the queen is off somewhere finding the source to stop the calling .... an honorable quest but c'mon I made her Queen for a reason! UGH. They managed to include Hawke by giving us the possibility to customize her/his looks but couldn't do that for my warden? Yeah, not happy!

 

 

 

Thanks for the Cullen/romance bioware at least THAT was genius

[New Kid]

Warden -> Inquisitor

 

 

 

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I'm still sad what they did to the wardens

Also, I didn't like the small part Alistair/Warden Queen ( or wtv you picked)  played in the game, they gave so much importance to Hawke yet the "hero of ferelden" barely gets mentioned! Not cool! I would have liked to see an alliance between the kingdoms of Orlais, Ferelden and also yes Hawke playing her/his part. The whole time the king is by himself because the queen is off somewhere finding the source to stop the calling .... an honorable quest but c'mon I made her Queen for a reason! UGH. They managed to include Hawke by giving us the possibility to customize her/his looks but couldn't do that for my warden? Yeah, not happy!

 

 

 

Thanks for the Cullen/romance bioware at least THAT was genius

Hawke was there trying to get **** done, HOF was off either trying to cure the taint so they can make kissy faces with their LI, or the oh so ironic: so they can save all the wardens from the blight.

[crazycupcake]

I like Hawke. 

[CuriousArtemis]

I felt Hawke had more of a personality than the Inquisitor, even if that personality was insane. ("humorous" dialogue, although I mostly played diplomatic) I'm not sure the Inquisitor feels as fully formed as Hawke, but maybe that'll change it time. Part of the problem is probably that the Inquisitor can have a more diverse background than Hawke. I've played non-human Inquisitors both times, and I can tell this was game was designed for humans. Some of the Inquisitor's dialogue is a little awkward at times because of this. I'm not upset about this; it makes sense that they'd prioritize humans. This is just an explanation as to why Hawke feels like a more well-developed character to me at this point.

 

I don't have anything else to say because this just sums it up so well

[Gamyu]

Hawke was there trying to get **** done, HOF was off either trying to cure the taint so they can make kissy faces with their LI, or the oh so ironic: so they can save all the wardens from the blight.

Don't blame the Warden for that, blame Bioware for not able to put him/her into the game, so instead they just make up the quest for the Cure.  Beside, a cure is good for those Wardens who are close to the Calling, save them instead of sending them to the Deep Roads to die. The gap between the 4th and 5th Blight was 400 years. that alot of good Wardens dead to the Calling while waiting for the next Blight. The cure will also help with those who get infected with the taint in the future.

[dsl08002]

Don't blame the Warden for that, blame Bioware for not able to put him/her into the game, so instead they just make up the quest for the Cure. Beside, a cure is good for those Wardens who are close to the Calling, save them instead of sending them to the Deep Roads to die. The gap between the 4th and 5th Blight was 400 years. that alot of good Wardens dead to the Calling while waiting for the next Blight. The cure will also help with those who get infected with the taint in the future.

Besides finding cure for the calling might not be the only reason, maybe a search for information regarding stopping the remaining archdemons is the main focus.

It all depends how bioware drops the bomb. Because right now the warden appears selfish.

The warden might say this: "At first it was about the cure, but after a special piece of information from an elven archive along with the help from a strange alliance ( architect) it bacame more than that"

[We'll bang okay]

so a warrior (Warden) vs a rogue (Hawke) vs a mage (inquisitor) well i will go with Hawke because she has a bow,

[Dyne-]

I love these threads. It's fun to hear/read how different everyone's world states are and what they liked/disliked about each game.

 

In terms of my enjoyment of the games it goes DA:O >>DA:I>=DA:2 Each game brings something unique to the table that I like and they all have pretty good replay value in my opinion.

 

In terms of martial prowess it's the Hero of Ferelden by a considerable margin >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Hawke>>>Inquisitor. I have a world state where all three are mages, and all three are two-handed warriors. My AW / BM / SH is so OP that comparing her to the other two just doesn't seem right since she had so much more versatility in combat / equipment. The same is said when comparing my two, two-handed Wardens. Berserker / Reaver / Spirit Warrior or the Berserker / Templar / Spirit Warrior. Honestly both of my two-handed warrior wardens were just as broken as the arcane warrior. Not only did they do an absurd amount of damage, but the ability to resist / negate magic completely makes the comparison one sided. It's safe to say my two-handed Wardens could take mage hawke and mage quizzy. 

 

If one can agree that all the characters are badasses in their own rights, but just compare what they're capable of based on the disciplines they're trained in / perks they had, the answer becomes clear. For my world states it's definitely Warden >>> Hawke >= Inquisitor.

 

Oddly enough, that's probably how i'd rate each PC as well. Warden=Hawke>>>>>>>Inquisitor. Quizzy is a little too much of a blank slate for my liking. I find it hard to believe that the right and left hands of the divine ( one is the Hero of Orlais and the other a master spy who is known for fighting the archdemon with the Hero of Ferelden ) AND a Knight-Commander would defer to my dalish elf for political guidance. A chick from the sticks running the Inquisition because she has the ability to close fade rifts..."lol wut?" It seems more likely that they would use her as a means to an end. It's still a fun game but holy **** it's hard to swallow the fact that the inquisitor is only relevant due to chance. The other two at least had to earn their reputations. 

 

TLDR: HoF Warden-Commander Cousland / Amell / Aeducan too OP. Smartass Hawke rules, Quizzy is boring  good voice acting though!

[Renmiri1]

I'm moved by your mourning. (My Shepard lives. All of them do.)

Out of likes but here's a heart for ya 

 

I do tend to have a sad play through in most of my BIoware games. My Dalish Warden did the Ultimate sacrifice and my Hawke stayed with Anders after he betrayed her trust.  But for me, my Shepard wanted to die and meet Thane on the eternal ocean so I only have that PT for her.

 

My Quizzy romanced Solas so she isn't lacking on the tears department.

 

I am finding Quizzy to be my favorite

 

@Dyne - Arcane Warrior true Reapers!!! the classes on DAO and DAA were perfection!

[Renmiri1]

Warden and inquistor are equal, my warden slew tons of darkspawn, a high dragon, the architect, the mother, the Harvester, the Arterral, and an archdemon...  The inquisitor slays 10 high dragons, Corypheus's dragon (anti-climatically of course, compared to the other dragons), Samson/Calpernia, knight commander denam/fiona, slapped around alexius or killed an envy demon, and put what we think is an end to Corypheus....  They both have organizations behind them, although the grey wardens have been losing ground here lately thanks to all the screw ups....

 

Hawke.... well.... Hawke killed a high dragon, an arterral, the harvester, quite a few people who had already broken their legs from jumping down from roofs, crazy meredith, a rock wraith, and slapped around a half asleep corypheus....  While notable, hawke's victories just seem kind of average compared to the other 2... plus anders was present, and as they say, you are the company you keep....

Hawke killed Cory

[myahele]

The inquisitor will always have that mark in their hand. With enough time/training they can walking in and out of the veil, rip people up, and have political power.

Hero of Ferelden just has the blight, every other boost is an optional DLC.

Hawke just ends up getting kicked out and blamed by whoever s/he sides with

[Warden Commander Aeducan]

Hawke killed Cory

No, Hawke didn't and Cory survived. 

[Orihime]

My warden first
Inquisitor second
Hawke last