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[RShara]

Awww that's so cute.  I'll definitely have to try that.

[Grieving Natashina]

It was.  I was pleasantly surprised, to be honest.  It made me smile, because Bull really does suit my ex-Carta dwarf very well.   I also liked FPJ's voice acting in it.  Dare I say, I actually like his performance of Bull moreso than Vega.

 

The romance can be really sweet.   Also, it's worth it for things like this.  This is a screenshot of one of the funniest moments from the romance.  Cullen was only the first that needed to be reminded to knock...

 

Spoiler

[RShara]

Ahahahahahhahahahahaha that's awesome!

[Blue_Shayde]

I'm so looking forward to romancing Iron Bull.

 

 

And of course if you get through DA:O, then DA:I can leave you with an Alistair vs Hawke choice with the right/wrong import

I'd still pick my Hawke. I'm far more attached to him and Fenris. And I couldn't do that to Varric or Fenris. Sorry Alistair...you did lead my warden on with your lick a lamppost in winter stunt.

[KaiserShep]

male romances in DAO

 

1)Morrigan leaves you with or without child

 

Yeah, I'll grant that one.

 

 

2)Lelianna use and then leaves you so she would be with Divine

Leliana does not "use" the Warden, and certainly not to become Divine. She left to work for the Divine before Justinia's death, but expresses her intent to reunite with her/him once the conflict is over, though this can depend on whether or not she's tapped for the sunburst throne, which is not something she planned for.

 

 

DA2..who have only 1 human hawke noble

 

1)Isabella is a pirate and sl*t of the half of Thedas ports, literaly and have disease...and yeah she will leave you to become a "admiral"

 

Isabela doesn't leave Hawke; Hawke is the one that leaves, but also expresses intent to reunite, though this is now up in the air, assuming that the Inquisitor's decision doesn't stop that plan cold.

 

 

2)Merril is a elf and apostage nonandrastian dalish mage(yeah she is "really suited" to be a lover for a human noble)...and she will leave you for dalish and helping ciry elfs to escape from war

 

This is the same story as Isabela. Merrill doesn't leave anyone; she's still doing whatever in Kirkwall.

 

 

DAI romances

 

1)Josephine disney princes without any real romance for male inquisitor...just some flirt with kisses and hugs after all what he will done to her when 90% she will not noticing.....ahd thats all

 

Josephine is alright, but her character is a bit blah.

 

 

 

2)Cassandra cheap tsundere chantry warrior...who will leave you and become a Divine or will restore/reform her Seekers

 

and yeah again only boring humans and nonmages andratian females to romance...females have a options and differences in romances and a damn godlike creature to romance

 

Is anime like the gold standard for character types or something? I'm curious as to why she's described as cheap. I guess you can't please everyone, but I find it curious that her character would be considered low-quality.

 

As for the godlike creature, this is the same godlike creature that, like, caused all this fuss in the first place.

[Grieving Natashina]

Ahahahahahhahahahahaha that's awesome!

In that sequence, Josie, Leliana and Cass all learn why it's important to knock first.

[xlm1994]

I've never played a female character so I don't really know much but here are my thoughts:

 

DAO: Right... that is sort of weird.  But you are together as the king and the queen so whatever.  And you have Leliana as a choice...

DA2: You are right about Anders... but that is why there is a dlc character. He is specifically designed for female Hawk imo.  And you have Isabella...

ME3: Shepard died in the end and you call these sucker punch?  Thane is dying in ME2 anyway so you should have seen that coming. And you have an asari, who wouldn't want an asari?

 

DAI: Don't you have Cullen? He's like the second most handsome character in DAI companions

(You asking who's the first?  Cassandra of cause!)

[Suhiira]

I was more then a bit suprised when my female elf rogue decided to "Ride the Bull".  Never expected Bioware to delve into that type nontraditional sexuality.

 

GOOD WORK

[RShara]

DAO:  You can't be queen if you're an elf.

DA2:  I didn't really like Sebastian.

ME3:  I'm not going to get into Thane's illness.  I've written pages on it, that you could probably find on the old forums.  Suffice to say, they forgot about him as a romance, and really dumped on it.  And I'm not into asari

 

DAI:  Yes, I like Cullen.  He's sweet and has a great smile.  But I'd also like to have a happy ending with Solas--he's just so interesting.  And who wouldn't want to date an ancient god?  Right?

[shubnabub]

Why the **** was the black wall spoiler not tagged???!!!!

[10K]

First the men were outraged and now it's the women turn. See BW this is why you should dump romances, you can't make anyone happy.

[Grieving Natashina]

First the men were outraged and now it's the women turn. See BW this is why you should dump romances, you can't make anyone happy.

Some women, perhaps.   While I think there is some tropes that should be addressed (and what happened with Jacob from ME2 to ME3 should never ever ever happen again,) I personally have enjoyed the romances from BioWare games since Origins.  I got into ME earlier this year, and enjoyed Garrus' romance quite a bit.  I like Iron Bull's romance as well.  

 

The OP doesn't speak for all women, just like the threads that claim that "all of the lady LIs are ugly" doesn't speak for all straight men.  

[Panda]

The characters can't satisfy everyone but I don't think straight female characters didn't get screwed at all. Number-wise there has been more options to straight female characters in DA series than to other characters. ME the situation is in favor of straight male characters.

 

Alistair still remains you if you keep him as grey warden. You can marry him with human noble. Zevran is sweet always, nothing bad to say about that romance. Fenris has issues but his romance is great. Sebastian is incredibly hard to romance (seriously you need 100% rivalry or friendship) but not a bad option although not as full romance as others in DA2. Anders screwed up in DA2 but at least you can run away with him. In DAI there is Cullen who is great romance, Iron Bull which is sweet in the end as well and very humours. Solas and BW seem to be more angsty but that happens.

 

I guess the problem there is that you have lot of options but you don't just like them. Well everyone can't like everything, but I think BW has told many different romance stories with their characters and some I like, some not.

[Calders]

Some women, perhaps.   While I think there is some tropes that should be addressed (and what happened with Jacob from ME2 to ME3 should never ever ever happen again,) I personally have enjoyed the romances from BioWare games since Origins.  I got into ME earlier this year, and enjoyed Garrus' romance quite a bit.  I like Iron Bull's romance as well.  

 

The OP doesn't speak for all women, just like the threads that claim that "all of the lady LIs are ugly" doesn't speak for all straight men.  

 

Good point... but I would add that most of the people complaining about the female Li's aren't saying "make the male Li's less attractive and more 'realistic" they want the female Li's to be better.  That said, I don't agree with people complaining about the number of Li's, that's just the way the dice rolled this time round.

[Asdrubael Vect]

DAO:  You can't be queen if you're an elf.

 

DAI: But I'd also like to have a happy ending with Solas--he's just so interesting.  And who wouldn't want to date an ancient god?  Right?

 

1)NOONE BECOME A QUEEN AND KING OF FERELDEN EXEPT ALISTAIR AND ANORA, noone....Kusland just become a prince/cess consort

 

he/she is just a child maker for a ruler without any king and queen rights, and yeah you as Alister and Anora will never have any child exept 1 with morrigan and thats all.

 

and yeah you will leave as hawke do

 

2)SolasFenharel like to be with demons and thats all))) just think about zeus mortal lovers and god relationship with his mortal lovers.

 

"happy ending" with solas its like become a bride of the god of thedas, thats kinda too much for a character(herald of Andraste was a bad solution) and smells like stupid shepard endings in ME

 

and Solas will be in the next game as we can understand our Inquisitor and their ark is not over...and i am sure that in the next game we can kill him

[lallyzippo]

But...Isabella and Merrill (who can also be lady romances) well...One lies and leaves you to die (probably) and the other has an obsessive, destructive fixation on something that cuts off all ties with her life. No one's perfect.

 

Oh, and Miranda will most likely die unless you meet very specific requirements, Tali is perfect, Jack also has the potential to have a gruesome end and comes with all sorts of emotional baggage, Samara has...reasonssss...? You can't be together...because shut up. Morinth will kill you because she's Satan...

 

People are complex, man. They come with baggage. These are characters who aren't really built to be archetypes. 

[Kappa Neko]

Ah great. Tons of spoilers about Solas.... *sigh*
Should have stayed away from BSN until finishing the game.

I'd say most romances in Dragon Age are kind of unhappy. And most companions try to kill you if you ****** them off... OR they have some serious issues or do something REALLY stupid.

So my problem is that I am often horrified at their personality or actions. Like fu*king Solas who starts off as a polite rather cheerful dreamy elf but then reveals how very arrogant and cold as ice he is as the story progresses. He should get together with Vivienne...

Twice in a row I'm starting to resent my elf lover. He's not as bad as Fenris yet. But good lord... and his romance is just awful so far. I thought it might pick up after the next story event (Wicked Eyes) but nope. Just a dance that even fades to black. Gee, thanks, Bioware...

At least I still have Dorian to flirt with. My buddy. And unrequited love of my life.

I am SO done with brooding distant elves and mages. They are all terrible. Looks like you need to romance a human to be spared all this aggressive oppressed people drama.
Should have gone for Alistair's clone instead...

I am really unhappy right now. But everything will be well when I do a second playthrough and romance Cass or Dorian. Never regretted playing female before. There is a first for everything I guess.

[BioWareM0d13]

.  Can we add these same twists to the male romances, or have the twists be less punch-in-the-gut-like for the females?  

 

DA:O before DLC and sequels did actually.

 

If a male Warden romanced Morrigan she left him in the end.

[Ascendra]

In that sequence, Josie, Leliana and Cass all learn why it's important to knock first.

Damn i love that scene so much i wish we had more of those in Inquisition.
Oh there's also Cass and her book which was my second favorite.

[Ascendra]

I've never played a female character so I don't really know much but here are my thoughts:

DAO: Right... that is sort of weird. But you are together as the king and the queen so whatever. And you have Leliana as a choice...
DA2: You are right about Anders... but that is why there is a dlc character. He is specifically designed for female Hawk imo. And you have Isabella...
ME3: Shepard died in the end and you call these sucker punch? Thane is dying in ME2 anyway so you should have seen that coming. And you have an asari, who wouldn't want an asari?

DAI: Don't you have Cullen? He's like the second most handsome character in DAI companions
(You asking who's the first? Cassandra of cause!)

Just had to comment on this.
1) Leliana is not a choice if you play a female that likes men.
2) Sebastian is a joke, he is not a romance and is not counted as such.
3) same as Leliana. Asari are basically a race designed for male players. Some women like to play their FemShepards with Liara, but Asari are no doubt female (monogendered is bull***), so also not applicable for women that play as straight women in DA. I actually dont want an Asari. Liara is as boring as hell and a writer's pet.
Basically if in ME i played a femshep interested in women i would have wanted Miranda, Jack or Aria.

Agreed on Cullen.

[Mushashi7]

I think

that it should the greatest task for a high quality company as Bioware NOT to bind the romance options or direct them by dictating the good or bad outcomes.

I like Skyrim for the freedom of romance options. I know, it's not romance in the same sense. Not at all, but you have the option to romance whomever you like and build a family. And there is no gender restrictions at all. This is the optimal solution practically.
Skyrim has no real personalities. I'll admit that. But it is still freedom of choice, and that makes it all much more enjoyable.

I think it would be easy to arrange for Bioware. Each character has a personality and rules that determines how you romance or what is need to get enough approval. It shouldn't matter what gender you are, and would also make it a lot easier.

[Nilesta]

3) same as Leliana. Asari are basically a race designed for male players. Some women like to play their FemShepards with Liara, but Asari are no doubt female (monogendered is bull***), so also not applicable for women that play as straight women in DA. I actually dont want an Asari. Liara is as boring as hell and a writer's pet.

 

Just another supermodel painted blue.  The straight dude options in ME always sort of struck as coming with an unspoken but heavily implied implication.  Men can't be trusted with non-humanoid romances.  We got actual aliens -- the men got supermodels painted blue.  (Yes, Femshep*Garrus is cannon as far as I'm concerned.)

 

Sort of a paternalistic air to the fact that straight dude romances rarely deviate from a certain type.  It bothers me to think that Bioware doesn't think dudes could handle a Garrus.  It bothers me more to consider the idea that they might be right.

 

Yes, straight girls get some weird and terribly disastrous romances, but we also get a lot more trust and the option to value the non-standard.  Blackwall is a dirty old man, IB is covered in scars and is non-traditional, sexually.  Solas is a skinny little bald dude.  Josie and Cass don't really deviate from a type.  Cass more so than Josie (she has a scar!  On her face!) but they aren't old, non-traditional, or otherwise not conventionally attractive.  (Or bald.)

 

And let's face it, more weird characters make for more weird stories.  It was never going to be Cass or Josie that twisted the knife.  The fact that they have personalities beyond naive little girl, femme fatal, or sexpot action girl is a big step in the direction of trusting the straight dudes.

 

There isn't a happy ending in the world I'd trade all my options for.  I wish dudes got a Garrus, not that Garrus was a supermodel painted blue.

[xlm1994]

Just had to comment on this.
1) Leliana is not a choice if you play a female that likes men.
2) Sebastian is a joke, he is not a romance and is not counted as such.
3) same as Leliana. Asari are basically a race designed for male players. Some women like to play their FemShepards with Liara, but Asari are no doubt female (monogendered is bull***), so also not applicable for women that play as straight women in DA. I actually dont want an Asari. Liara is as boring as hell and a writer's pet.
Basically if in ME i played a femshep interested in women i would have wanted Miranda, Jack or Aria.

Agreed on Cullen.

I was joking about Leliana and Liara...

I don't quite get the second point.  Are you saying he is not a romance choice or he is a terrible romance choice?

[Grieving Natashina]

I was joking about Leliana and Liara...

I don't quite get the second point.  Are you saying he is not a romance choice or he is a terrible romance choice?

Sebastian is a romance choice for straight women only (the only one gated by gender in DA2,) but he doesn't count towards the achievement (possibly due to him being a DLC character.)  He also has no FTB scene, so there is some debate about whether or not it was a "full" romance.  

[Ryzaki]

Sebastian is a romance choice, but he doesn't count towards the achievement (possibly due to him being a DLC character.)  He also has no FTB scene, so there is some debate about whether or not it was a "full" romance.  

 

Meh that's not what makes me feel he's not a romance.

 

You get him an act later than everyone else.

He has no comforting you after Leandra scene (Freaking Aveline gets one)

You can't dare flirt with anyone before him.

 

Stuff like that.