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[CoffeeElemental]

I dont mean they go and ignore work. I try to refer to how a lot of modern games are suffering from these kind of broken releases. DA:I has some issues, but its a very good game over all. But that doesnt justify that a patch that wasnt clearly tested as much as it should came out. And thats why i said that it seems to me theres not as much love as before in many newer games. Personal thought anyway. From my work experience, letting something that is broken or unfinished/untested represent your own brand is either bad organization/work or just not giving a damn.

Some companies want to get Q&A on the cheap, hiring interns and such. Low wages, high turnover. As I understand this was the case with EA in general, would not be surprised if this trickled down to Bioware also, seems like everyday its becoming less of what it once was, just another EA division milking old brand until nothing is left.

[b10d1v]

Skyrim worked out of the box, until the last DLC and then it needed help just to work at all on PC.  It took a lot of people (some bethesda folks, modders and players) to figure out just why and start tools to fix it.  Bethesda was in a poor position at that point as modding had FAR exceeded expectations for the game with intelligent companions, great new quests and animation and behavior models, just to name a few.

However, Bethesda has always had a mechanics issues with water, it generally looks and behaves improperly and that complicates immersion mods.

 

Frostbite has taken a revolutionary approach to solving this problem, hence the stunning videos on their website and some of the game play.  That this solution should have some issues is not surprising.  There is now a system to handle various levels of complex surface textures and properties for nearly anything. I think that may take time to sink in, but the possibilities of what could be done are amazing.

[b10d1v]

I don't see the shiny hair, but the purple outline on talking NPCs seems much worse, probably varies from user to user

[Pali3x1]

This was expected that the new patch will introduce new bugs every game is like that so instead of start flaming report the bugs hope they fix them and we got to be realistic at the end of the day they will stilll not patch thins that you dislike. I hope that they implement  da:o tatic systems and tactical cam but i am not expecting them to do so. If you dont like how the game  end up in a year or so you can stilll not buy their games in the future. Bad english i know.

[saladinbob]

I don't think it's laziness. Given the opportunity, do you not think Bioware would have liked to have taken their time on Inquisition and released it when it was ready to be released? They are not an independent developer so have to work under the marketing department of their publisher who put pressure on them for release dates and certain development content otherwise face their budget being cut or worse.

[mutantspicy]

Agreed its not laziness, instead I say it was a knee jerk reaction to the amount of complaints.  I would say that most of the crashes and glitches, were tied to well the variety of PC builds out there. And well tactics / talent bugs those are gonna take time if they will be addressed at all.  I personally felt like the game ran fine, my only issue was ocasional frame rate drop after crafting.  But I just had to fast travel somewhere to speed it back up.  Probably a memory leak issue.  Nonetheless Bioware has a strong history of caring about us.  They do.  To a fault sometimes, this isn't first time Bioware released a patch to make everyone happy and it turned out to be shite.

[ChrisRudson]

CC is a bit broken. Scars are not customizable. You could move the sliders, but it won't change a thing

[RShara]

http://ft.trillian.i...Q84GFdKXgs8.jpg

 

Hahahahah

 

Bioware, I'd like to tender my resume.  I'm a software quality assurance tester with 5+ years of experience in software testing, along with another 8 years in customer service.

[Dandynermite]

Whoever said all big games take several patches...

 

Erm no they don't... WoW patches roll out pretty seemlessly every single week, OP is right, to an extent, but its more lazy QA than anything.

[KMan74]

Bad people could state that the shiny hair could be a feature and homage to EDI from Mass Effect 

[TheJediSaint]

Whoever said all big games take several patches...

 

Erm no they don't... WoW patches roll out pretty seemlessly every single week, OP is right, to an extent, but its more lazy QA than anything.

WoW is 10 years old and uses a much simpler engine.  So...Apple to Oranges.

[b10d1v]

I was attempting to document a bug with shadowplay and the game crashed, they sure have made documenting bugs with video a challenge.

[AverageGuy1]

I don't blame the devs, I blame the ones cracking the whip and holding the purse strings: EA

This crap is BF4 launch all over again. Bioware will make a groveling post eventually and will take the blame for EA just like DICE did. The game clearly need a few more months dev time, there is just too much broken. banter is broken, music is broken, tons of skills are broken, equipment/skill modifiers are mostly broken, the quest journal is broken. There is more that is broken than works, it's basically a choose your own adventure with a barely functioning game laid over the top as of right now.

[Greetsme]

Sorry, I'm going to have to disagree on that. EA is a huge, profitable company. If they are being cheap and refusing to hire enough employees, the correct response on their part is to HIRE more, not outsource the task to unpaid labor.

If the outsource to unpaid labor thing actually works, it will just encourage EA to do it more and more (why pay for what you an get for free?) and, at that point, everybody loses....

 

I don't know, it could be closer to the truth that Bioware are 1% programmers, artist, etc:  And the other 99% are flash looking PR people.

So the real Bioware is just ONE bloke, locked in a basement, sweating away at his keyboard.

[Blue_Shayde]

It will take a lot more time to fix this one...btw the PJs are a bug anyhow https://twitter.com/...290992653541376

Pft...anyone who falls for the 'its a bug' is just plain gullible. In gameplay livestreams they did, they confirmed that was the only outfit you got and said nothing of it being a bug. Its only a bug now because enough people are complaining against it. Plus they deleted that post not more then a few hours later.

[ButchHardPec]

If you're going to use the word lazy/laziness to presume why you think something you don't like happens concerning videogame development, consider saying: I have bad and disposable opinions.

[Linark]

I don't blame the devs, I blame the ones cracking the whip and holding the purse strings: EA

This crap is BF4 launch all over again. Bioware will make a groveling post eventually and will take the blame for EA just like DICE did. The game clearly need a few more months dev time, there is just too much broken. banter is broken, music is broken, tons of skills are broken, equipment/skill modifiers are mostly broken, the quest journal is broken. There is more that is broken than works, it's basically a choose your own adventure with a barely functioning game laid over the top as of right now.

The blaming EA excuse is long past its effect. DA:I has had more than enough time and was even delayed to ensure it delivered. The game its awesome in general. But patches like this which are obviouslly not tested show a lack of care from some team, cant say if its devs, programmers, comercial team, etc, but its a bit sad a patch brakes a feature which was supposedly being solved with the patch more than it was before.

 

 

If you're going to use the word lazy/laziness to presume why you think something you don't like happens concerning videogame development, consider saying: I have bad and disposable opinions.

 

Really fanboy, stop. If you want to lick Bioware/EAs balls its fine, but we dont need to know.

 

Btw, your statement made no sense at all. But nice try on trolling.

[Ieldra]

Pft...anyone who falls for the 'its a bug' is just plain gullible. In gameplay livestreams they did, they confirmed that was the only outfit you got and said nothing of it being a bug. Its only a bug now because enough people are complaining against it. Plus they deleted that post not more then a few hours later.

Yeah, I've heard that "it's a bug" before. Rather funny, The good thing about this real-world retcon is that it probably means they're going to change it. 

[brzoz]

hey kids, shush!

[Linark]

Some companies want to get Q&A on the cheap, hiring interns and such. Low wages, high turnover. As I understand this was the case with EA in general, would not be surprised if this trickled down to Bioware also, seems like everyday its becoming less of what it once was, just another EA division milking old brand until nothing is left.

Well Bioware is still the one doing things, EA is just the distributor, so i dont thing EAs underpaid trainee abuse is necesary affecting Bioware. DA:I still delivers and its obvious they tried going back to DA:O quality standards. But still, things like a broken patch receiving an OK, some awfull decision making (pijama, customization, amors)...meh.

[Linark]

Wow, so much ignorance contained within a single post it boggles the mind. People disagree with you and raise a valid point and you respond with garbage like this. Are you 12 years old? Guess what, I don't think you possess a crystal ball that gives you insight into what happens within Bioware's debugging and or testing process but, by all means continue to throw crap around like a monkey.

Valid point is using a stereotypical insult implying im a fat nerd for criticizing a BROKEN patch? Or that i cant use arguments because they are contrary to what you believe like that other poser and you are doing? And you dare claiming i must be 12? Really, EA and all these companies are doing all these crap milking practices thanks to fanboys like you who enjoy liking their balls. I cannot know exactly what happens on Biowares debugging process, SO CANT YOU. You cant assure that what a LOT of players are criticizing is wrong neither. But we've got this broken patch as excample and other late EA rushing and milking practices to back our claims. You just got your fanboyism. So much ignorance you say. You really know nothing about corporate practices.

EA knows they will still make money even when they rush products. Happened with ME3, and thanks to that we got a mediocre ending for an otherwise brilliant saga. Bioware had to come and add a free dlc to improve the ending, but still, the game turned from possible world class masterpiece to "that game with the horrible ending", even when the game was very good in general, and the ending wasnt that bad if you compare it to other games which didnt get all this negative feedback. Happened with DA2 too, they rushed it, people bought it still. These practices must STOP. They just work ind etriment of great games. DA2 could have been a damn good game if they hadnt rushed it. ME3 ending could have been jawdropping if they hadnt rushed it. Thats why people are complaining on this new patch. Its another RUSH RUSH RUSH case that turns wrong. If youw ant to defend these type of practices, ok, but dont talk about ignorance when you are clearly the ignorant fanboy if you defend it.

[Linark]

Are you perhaps incapable of reading? I didn't defend EA or Bioware in any way I defended a forum member. Furthermore your obsession with the words " balls and liking " leads me to question your age as well as intelligence. No, I simply pointed out you have no idea what happens within Bioware's testing or debugging process yet feel qualified to speak about the subject there is a phrase for this it's called arguing from ignorance. Oh, I should point out any problems you encounter with the game or patches might not be encountered by other people as the only issues I have experienced with DA:I is the occasional crash.

You defended a forum member whos only practical argument in this conversation was "You criticize Bioware for giving free way to a broken patch, you must be a fat nerd" which comes close to fanboyism, so why wouldnt i think you are a fanboy too? btw, you are. That phrase "Oh, I should point out any problems you encounter with the game or patches might not be encountered by other people as the only issues I have experienced with DA:I is the occasional crash." shows you would say any stupid thing that comes to your mind in order to defend them. It seems you havent read the rest of posts here, or the forums. That it doesnt affect your pc doesnt mean the lot of us who are having issues cant complain. We paid the same as you, and so, we are entitled to our opinions regarding a product. You are no one to judge me because you took this as an "im smarter than you" fanboy conversation. I bet you would complain if you bought, lets say, a TV that doesnt work properly, or if a digital cable update gave you problems while trying to see the TV. But, as we are in pc gaming, fanboys like you come here to defend the undefendable, even when we are saying DA:I is a very good game, and we are mostly criticizing the rush out policy EA and Bioware have been doing for years.

 

And no, its not arguing from ignorance as you also cant assure, as i said, that they did all they could before launching the patch. Or do you? And everything i said was clear enough to understand its an opinion. I didnt said Bioware are 100% confirmed doing nothing, it all came from a comparison to what they used to do and what it seems from later games. Read, quit the incapable of reading **** when ive read everything you said and you obviouslly havent. Its not just me, but a lot of players who feel games and patches are being rushed. And yes, most know its corporate stuff, but that doesnt mean people shouldnt complain. Oh, and saying ball liking doesnt makes anyone look less smart than you, poser. Now if you are gonna say something usefull, go on. But i wont bother to answer back if you keep this childish "look how smart iam compared to you" shitty discussion.