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[BoogieManFL]

I like how he plays, but of all my characters he dies the most often, and the most quickly. I consider myself a pretty good player. I have all characters unlocked and I've played most of them a fair bit and do well. But he dies just so easily. I can get my guard up good, but it gets consumed in 1 or 2 hits at most. I've read guides, but it hasn't helped much. I've tried playing more defensively and trying for defensive skills.. But again, it doesn't change much.

 

I can't see much reason to use him over my Reaver. I like how he plays more, but my Reaver is vastly more survivable and does FAR more DPS and is easier to play all around and is not affected as badly by uncooperative teamates.

[tbxvividos]

that's pretty much the general consensus on the class.

[Shadohz]

That's an insult to wet tissue paper. I'm not touching that kit until they buff it. I don't like being laughed at and having people complete their Revive Challenge just because I'm on that kit (yes that really happened). The only known fix for now is Join Lobby> Look for Keeper>Leave Lobby.

[maelstromm15]

Maybe its just skewed perspective, but I seem to be a bit more survivable since the patch for some reason. Though people are still kicking me for being a katari......dunno what the problem is, since I generally do the most damage, and haven't died once today.

Edit: I haven't played with a keeper or elementalist today.

[J. Peterman]

We meet again fake boogieman.....

[BoogieManFL]

We meet again fake boogieman.....

 

*eyes narrow* Indeed we do..

 

 

And remember boy, I've been BoogieMan since 1996. All the rest of you are just knock offs!

[Shadohz]

Maybe its just skewed perspective, but I seem to be a bit more survivable since the patch for some reason. 

I'll try it out but if I find out that you're lying, then I'm trolling you hard.

 

We meet again fake boogieman.....

There's a real one?

[BoogieManFL]

I'll try it out but if I find out that you're lying, then I'm trolling you hard.

 

There's a real one?

 

Yeah, ME.

 

Also I tried post patch, noted nothing different.

[Shadohz]

Yeah, ME.

 

Also I tried post patch, noted nothing different.

No registered trademark, no birth certificate, no bang.

alright thanks

[Jugger nuggss]

That's why you just kill everything before you get hit. Run in, pommel strike, then his ground strike (I can't remember the name) helps to have an AOE weapon too

[XxMrHollywood]

Yeah at least the Raver has life steal, Karari is unplayable in threatening+ unfortunately.

[Beerfish]

I hate all boogeymen so no problem for me.

 

(I do know what you mean by the guard going poof so quick.  At times I build up a nice guard and full hit points and wade in am down very quickly.  then again he matches up well with how good Sten was, the biggest wimp in DAO.

[tbxvividos]

That's why you just kill everything before you get hit.

 

i lol'd

[maelstromm15]

I'll try it out but if I find out that you're lying, then I'm trolling you hard.

I can't say for sure, but I've certainly not been dying as much as I used to. I'm only playing threatening and perilous ofc, and on threatening it seems to take about a dozen arrows to take me from full guard to no health, as opposed to the two that it seemed to be before lol. All this could absolutely be imagination though, perhaps I'm just not getting targeted as much. Who knows.

[ShiroDNX]

helps to have an AOL weapon too

 

I love the perk on those weapons.

 

+15% chance to generate dial-up noise, causing enemies to panic 20 seconds? So wonderful.

[Dre G Writer]

It it wasn't for devour and rampage, Reaver would pretty much be in the same boat.

[TurianRebels]

Sadly, as Keeper, I don't like warriors. They get all the barriers.
They need all the barriers, or they die.

[Catastrophy]

If you see me in a lobby with a keeper I'll be the first to put a spell on you Katari people, because I like watching trains crash through people.

[tbxvividos]

Sadly, as Keeper, I don't like rogues. They get all the barriers.
They need all the barriers, or they die.

 

^fixed

[Grayvisions]

^fixed

 

Disagree. With exception of Legionaire who is lol invulnerable, all of my rogues are by far more survivable that my warriors, and in pugs the Rogues seem to do a better job of surviving than warrior players as well, for that matter. I've seen whole teams carried by an Assassin far more than I've seen a Katari/Reaver/Templar carry the team.

[steamcamel]

It wouldn't surprise me if katari actually means 'weat tissue paper' in qunlat.

[Stinja]

Have to agree.  Last night my Katari was going down like a hooker at a stag party...  

 

This is only on Threatening, but you seem to lose all guard and health if 2-3 archers decide to target you, and you can't even "sprint" / charge around a corner to safety.

I even had one game with two (2) Keepers, and thought "sweet, maybe i can kill something this time?!", if i got barrier like once in a zone i was doing well - they were too busy waving their wands and zapping stuff.

 

If he was just viable on Threatening, and tricky/squishy on Perilous, like the Reaver is, i'd be happy.

[Valerius Anthar]

Disagree. With exception of Legionaire who is lol invulnerable, all of my rogues are by far more survivable that my warriors, and in pugs the Rogues seem to do a better job of surviving than warrior players as well, for that matter. I've seen whole teams carried by an Assassin far more than I've seen a Katari/Reaver/Templar carry the team.

 

Near-permanent stealth is a hell of a lot better than a guard bar that evaporates in one basic melee hit or ranged attack. Seriously, a full bar of guard on a warrior, even a two handed warrior, should not go poof because the DAI equivalent of a goomba touched you. Since Reavers get self healing to compensate for being in the fray, I think Katari should get some form of guard generation skill beyond TTD or Bull Rush, or perhaps give a skill that deflects projectiles while penalizing your movement or damage. 

[Stinja]

I think Katari should get some form of guard generation skill beyond TTD or Bull Rush

 

At this point, i think the easiest fix might be to generate guard while merely using Charging Bull.

 

It means you could enter every fight at full guard (charging between fights, without needing to hit an enemy), and mitigate damage while trying to move about the battlefield, charge an archer etc.

Would this be OP?  i don't think so.

 

EDIT:  i'm talking about the upgrade (currently no stamina next ability) getting something like 5% Guard per second while charging.

[Scorpio989]

I honestly think Katari is fine as it is... I have no problem generating max guard and wiping rooms on Threatening. Just aim for HP gear and get as much healing procs as possible and you should have no problem.