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[KalGerion_Beast]

Alright, armor appears to be useless.  Thanks stinja.  

 

Since it seems to be mildly on topic, anyone else randomly get huge hits on katari every once in a while?  I know archers can output some damage, but I got hit by an 1185 on threatening -.-, with katari obviously.  Either its a rare hit and I haven't seen it on other classes, or he's broken somewhere in the incoming damage department.  

 

You can tell those archers mean business when they are outputting almost 400 more damage than DC...and they are en masse 

[gay_wardens]

Unfortunately this is a problem that plagues all two-handed warriors except good ol' Oghren from Origins. 

 

I miss the days when you could actually tank one of those things. Oh wait, that game had Spirit Healing in it, lulz.

[Nitestick7]

So i did some testing, Katari and Keeper being shot by the demon faction green ghost's pew pew.

Dragon Age HQ info:  Katari / Keeper

core stats:

Helmet icon = 70 / 20

 

Defences:

Sword = 60 / 20

Bow = 60 / 20

Magic = 20 / 100

 

 

Routine: 

vs Barrier = 17-19

Keeper's Vestments (45 armour), damage taken = 15-19

Keeper's Vestments (Ash) (50 armour), damage taken = 17-19

Katari's Hide (71 armour), damage taken = 21-24 

Deathbringer's Hide (87 armour), damage taken = 21-24

Deathbringer's Hide (Dathras) (95 armour), damage taken = 21-24 

 

 

Threatening: 

vs Barrier = 37-40

Keeper's Vestments (45 armour), damage taken = 37-40

Keeper's Vestments (Ash) (50 armour), damage taken = 37-40

Katari's Hide (71 armour), damage taken = 47-51

Deathbringer's Hide (87 armour), damage taken = 49-51 (? i didn't get a good data set)

Deathbringer's Hide (Dathras) (95 armour), damage taken = 47-50 (? got shot quite a bit)

 

So the kit's defence seems to be much more important than near doubling your armour rating.

The other standout item is the fact increasing your armour rating for a kit seems to have no effect.

 

If i get a chance i might try the Reaver too, but it's so painful to try and get the correct enemy to test against.

 

 

So wait, you're testing armor against magic damage? From what I've read in other forum posts, armor is a flat reduction from physical damage.  That's why in your test the Katari takes more damage than the Keeper.  The Keeper armor comes with magic defense, as well as getting passives to improve willpower which also improves magic defense.

[Stinja]

So wait, you're testing armor against magic damage? From what I've read in other forum posts, armor is a flat reduction from physical damage.  That's why in your test the Katari takes more damage than the Keeper.  The Keeper armor comes with magic defense, as well as getting passives to improve willpower which also improves magic defense.

 

Whatever the green ghosts spit out.  Maybe i'll try archers too then, but i would have thought armour does something...  lets call this mk1 testing

 

EDIT:  moar

 

Dragon Age HQ info:  Katari / Keeper

core stats:

Helmet icon = 70 / 20

 

Defences:

Sword = 60 / 20

Bow = 60 / 20

Magic = 20 / 100

 

 

Routine:  green ghost's pewpew

vs Barrier = 17-19

Keeper's Vestments (45 armour), damage taken = 15-19

Keeper's Vestments (Ash) (50 armour), damage taken = 17-19

Katari's Hide (71 armour), damage taken = 21-24 

Deathbringer's Hide (87 armour), damage taken = 21-24

Deathbringer's Hide (Dathras) (95 armour), damage taken = 21-24 

 

Routine:  archer

vs Barrier = 82-132

vs Barrier (Ash) = 82-132

Keeper's Vestments (45 armour), damage taken =  37-63

Keeper's Vestments (Ash) (50 armour), damage taken = 33-40

Katari's Hide (71 armour), damage taken = 11-19

Deathbringer's Hide (87 armour), damage taken = 1-3 (and mostly 1s)

Deathbringer's Hide (Dathras) (95 armour), damage taken = 1

 

Threatening:  green ghost's pewpew

vs Barrier = 37-40

Keeper's Vestments (45 armour), damage taken = 37-40

Keeper's Vestments (Ash) (50 armour), damage taken = 37-40

Katari's Hide (71 armour), damage taken = 47-51

Deathbringer's Hide (87 armour), damage taken = 49-51 (? i didn't get a good data set)

Deathbringer's Hide (Dathras) (95 armour), damage taken = 47-50 (? got shot quite a bit)

 

Threatening:  archer

vs Barrier = 220-311

vs Barrier (Ash) = 156-319

Keeper's Vestments (45 armour), damage taken = 134-171

Keeper's Vestments (Ash) (50 armour), damage taken = 118-199

Katari's Hide (71 armour), damage taken = 95-149

Deathbringer's Hide (87 armour), damage taken = 69-111

Deathbringer's Hide (Dathras) (95 armour), damage taken = 60-96

 

Obviously it's tricky to get a good range of numbers from Threatening, as you melt so fast...