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When did Bioware stop treating its PC customers right?


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#26
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Er... aesthetic/texture bugs of this type aren't gamebreaking at all. They're highly irritating, but there's no need for the hyperbole. 

 

They released a heavy duty patch in a manner of weeks. This was mainly rushed due to the QQ by said customers. 

 

I knew this would happen. They should have taken another couple of weeks. QA in a game of this scope needs more time.

 

The patch was not rushed. Other games manage patches that work in much shorter timeframes. as for not being game breaking well perhaps not literally but if my character was turned into a withered looking person after the patch I couldn't play that toon until it was fixed.



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PCs certainly have their strengths, they're very good at doing taxes and spreadsheets. But when it comes to gaming one really is better off sticking to dedicated gaming hardware like the PS4.


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PCs certainly have their strengths, they're very good at doing taxes and spreadsheets. But when it comes to gaming one really is better off sticking to dedicated gaming hardware like the PS4.

Your pc might be better at 'taxes and spread sheets'. My PC is better at gaming than any console could ever hope to be.
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i kept skipping this topic because i thought the title read..."When did Bioware stop pandering to the PC Master Race?"

 

 

but alas........



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i kept skipping this topic because i thought the title read..."When did Bioware stop pandering to the PC Master Race?"

 

 

but alas........

Its not about master race or anything like that. 
 
You got the budget, lazy after work, dont want to fumble around and want to play THAT game, then a console is for you.
 
I dont have a budget, Im lazy after work, Im willing to fumble around to save 500 bucks and want to play, watch TV, listen to music, do my taxes, send my emails and all that stuff.
 
its just doing same stuff in two boxes instead of one.


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man your pc got some perk boobies for a 80 year old :P



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I'll give you a cluEA

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This is the first time I've truly felt marginalized as a PC player simply because they explicitly stated, many times, with great enthusiasm, that the PC was the focus for this game.  I don't care if they decide to "consolize" the PC version of the game so long as they don't lie about it.


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BioWare dont have the reputation to lie, but if there is a market change per EA  metrics then EA will force em to do so.

 

Six Sigma business model written all over the place.



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I love the white knights in this thread.. absolute quality. 

 

For you guys to sit here and be snide toward the OPs comments, yet you're no better at all.. you just happen to sit to the other side of the argument and can't seem to place any blame toward Bioware at all yet chastize others for putting all the blame on them. 

 

Great stuff!


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I love the white knights in this thread.. absolute quality.

For you guys to sit here and be snide toward the OPs comments, yet you're no better at all.. you just happen to sit to the other side of the argument and can't seem to place any blame toward Bioware at all yet chastize others for putting all the blame on them.

Great stuff!


So let me get this straight. You're making a snide comment toward us, because you believe that we're making snide comments toward the OP?

What kind of logic i don't even
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#37
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How is me pointing out the hypocrisy of this thread in the way that I did snide in any way.. explain that to me. 

 

Actually wait, don't bother. I really don't care that much. 

 

I'd rather just continue reading the other comments in this thread. As you were folks. 



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PCs certainly have their strengths, they're very good at doing taxes and spreadsheets. But when it comes to gaming one really is better off sticking to dedicated gaming hardware like the PS4.

Your PC might only do taxes and spread sheets, but mine not only has the potential to be superior at gaming (supporting higher res textures than any console could hope to), but it also does Monte Carlo simulations of hundreds of thousands of particle physics events in simulated LHC detectors.  I'd like to see your console even attempt that.  It also runs multiple operating systems, which is a huge advantage.  But really, I have no problem with consoles.  If I didn't actually need hardcore computing power and ram for my work, I'd probably just go for a console too.
 

Oh lord, not another one of these hyperbolated PC threads.

"PC version is a console port."
" They've completely ruined my whole gaming experience. "
"EAware is nothing but a money-grubbing puppet of Microsoft and Sony!"
"Do they even care about us????"
"This is all a part of EA's master plan to destroy the universe!!!!!!1"


They get it-- some people don't like certain features in the PC version. They've promised to fix it up. What dyu want from them, exactly?
Let's cut out the hyperbole and try and productively explain WHY we hate certain implementations, please.

I agree that the OP is being hyperbolic, but you dismissing some of these core points is likewise... problematic.

You expect that if you buy the game on a console, that the controls at least make sense for your console.  You wouldn't want the PS4 version to have some weird idiosyncratic features that were clearly designed in order to function on XBox One, right?  So I think for a PC game, there are a few basic things about the controls that you'd expect from ANY game.  DA:I's controls aren't horrid, and you can get used to them, but there are tons and tons of weird little tics in the controls that the ONLY logical reason for them is that 'this would make sense on a different platform'.  It's the kind of design decision that would rightfully anger any console player.  A PC-primary game that is also available on the console better damn well have controls that make sense for the platform you play it on.  Full stop.


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I love the white knights in this thread.. absolute quality. 

 

For you guys to sit here and be snide toward the OPs comments, yet you're no better at all.. you just happen to sit to the other side of the argument and can't seem to place any blame toward Bioware at all yet chastize others for putting all the blame on them. 

 

Great stuff!

mhmmm....delicious.


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Have you guys tried the workaround until the hot fix for patch 2 comes around? It seems to work. It's on the twitter thread.

It's on page 2850 of twitter page. Rpgalltheway posted the workaround that a bioware employee posted while they work on a hot fix.

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[quote name="Savvie" post="18028994" timestamp="1418160787"]

I disagree in that PC customers aren't treated right, but I would say that console versions are favored more over the PC.[/quote
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Im downloading the patch right now... PRAY EAWARE, PRAY for me to not have these s*** of graphics on my new, exclusive buyed pc FOR this game, i will get very, very mad if not.



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Your PC might only do taxes and spread sheets, but mine not only has the potential to be superior at gaming (supporting higher res textures than any console could hope to), but it also does Monte Carlo simulations of hundreds of thousands of particle physics events in simulated LHC detectors.  I'd like to see your console even attempt that.  It also runs multiple operating systems, which is a huge advantage.  But really, I have no problem with consoles.  If I didn't actually need hardcore computing power and ram for my work, I'd probably just go for a console too.

 

LOL. I'm pretty sure wolf is a PC gamer, could be wrong tho. 



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LOL. I'm pretty sure wolf is a PC gamer, could be wrong tho. 

Anyone can be a PC gamer, not everyone has decent PCs. Anyone with half a brain knows current good PCs can by far outperform any console, and no, I'm not wrong.

 

Get more popcorn and I'll get some sleep, cya mates!



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Im downloading the patch right now... PRAY EAWARE, PRAY for me to not have these s*** of graphics on my new, exclusive buyed pc FOR this game, i will get very, very mad if not.

look at my post two above your original there is a workaround if it happens. (Just trying to help)

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Er... aesthetic/texture bugs of this type aren't gamebreaking at all. They're highly irritating, but there's no need for the hyperbole. 

 

They released a heavy duty patch in a manner of weeks. This was mainly rushed due to the QQ by said customers. 

 

I knew this would happen. They should have taken another couple of weeks. QA in a game of this scope needs more time.

"Rushed"?

A patch being rushed is a patch being released within a week, to fix some issues that have to be fixed.

 

Something being rushed is having to release a hotfix after a patch, because your patch majorly screwed some things up.

 

A patch a month down the line doesn't come close to being "rushed" in any sense of the word. You also have to understand that "patches" solve issues and inherent problems with games. If companies care about their customers at all, they will do them (and sooner rather than later) and if they don't, they won't. I don't have to thank BioWare for fixing up a product I was already massively overcharged for, because I not only live in the EU, but a rich part of it.

I expect it of them.

 

Then when the patch rolls out - rather late, considering some of the issues, I might add, and it actually breaks the game more than the issues it was attempting to fix - that simply stinks of humongously insufficient QA before the patch going live. Not only that, but it is quite simply outrageous.

 

Not all of us have 15 hours to spend on videogames each day, so when I am experiencing severe glitching, bugs and errors during my "gametime" it severely ruins the whole thing for me. I came home from a 14-hour shift to find a patch. I was honestly completely thrilled to download it and boot up my game, only to find what I can only describe as disgraceful conditions and completely immersion-breaking bugs. I don't post a lot on forums, I don't complain a lot. I was and am disappointed with many, many things in Dragon Age: Inquisition. From the communication of the dev-team to the game itself, but I put it on the backburner. In the grand scheme of things it is trivial issues.

That doesn't change the fact that when the patch finally rolls out, it has quite clearly not been properly tested and frankly seems like some of it hasn't even been properly written, and that is a ****** problem.

 

I was told that this game was being developed "primarily" for the PC, before release. That, upon first startup, was immediately proven to be false.

 

Now they can't even patch the PC cause of a lack of QA? Absolutely disgraceful. It shows nothing but disdain for your customers (or at least the part of them that are on PC) and signals to me that you frankly don't care enough about them to make sure their experience with your product is up to the standard of everyone else's.


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#47
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As I do agree, complaining about it won't make it better, be nice to the devs so they do what we want! :P



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Game went gold at the end of October.  It was released 3 weeks ago to the day.  I don't think you can call this patch 'rushed'.  I call it late, and underwhelming considering how little it fixes and how much it breaks.



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After Mass Effect 2.

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Oh lord, not another one of these hyperbolated PC threads.

"PC version is a console port."
" They've completely ruined my whole gaming experience. "
"EAware is nothing but a money-grubbing puppet of Microsoft and Sony!"
"Do they even care about us????"
"This is all a part of EA's master plan to destroy the universe!!!!!!1"


They get it-- some people don't like certain features in the PC version. They've promised to fix it up. What dyu want from them, exactly?
Let's cut out the hyperbole and try and productively explain WHY we hate certain implementations, please.

 

Indeed, console versions also have similar problems with PC, but they aren't as loud as PC users. It sadden me.