I find that when a game doesn't include any swearing it seems completely unrealistic. I've never went a single day in my life without hearing a swear word at least once.
I don't even know how people notice that there is no swearing or there is swearing, frankly. It doesn't even register to me either way. They're just words.
(Disgusted noise.), on 09 Dec 2014 - 10:27 PM, said:I don't even know how people notice that there is no swearing or there is swearing, frankly. It doesn't even register to me either way. They're just words.
I notice when there isn't because when something bad or frightening happens the characters don't give a natural response.
I notice when there isn't because when something bad or frightening happens the characters don't give a natural response.
"Natural response" is subjective. There are people to whom swearing isn't a natural reaction for them.
Hanako Ikezawa, on 09 Dec 2014 - 10:29 PM, said:"Natural response" is subjective. There are people to whom swearing isn't a natural reaction for them.
Well where I come from f*ck is practically a comma so it seems very very weird.
Why is F*** an 'explitave' anyway? Who here does not like F******? As Gore Vidal once told Christopher Hitchens, "...one should never miss a chance either to have sex or appear on television." I put emphasis on sex. lol
Well where I come from f*ck is practically a comma so it seems very very weird.
Likewise here it is almost never heard. The majority of the times it is, it is coming from a television or a computer screen.
It is a natural reaction in "our world". But after first two dragon age games one would think that "By Andrastes holy panties" is the worst possible swear they have in Thedas... And argument "it adds realism" is out of question. I've never noticed this game was meant to reflect reality 
I think people can act mature and respond to shitty situations without using word f*ck... It was not in the first games and it helped create cool and unique world. Its only a detail I know, but it ruins the atmosphere a bit. Even when it is used in appropriate situations :/
Blackwall says 'Save the f**king world if pressed' when asked what can one grey warden do in his recruitment mission.
The "F" word is my favorite word ever. Just wish the Inquisitor could drop some F bombs here and there. Bioware protagonists never do for some reason. Their vulgarity stop as sh!t or crap.
I thought the moment in which Dorian used it was precise, pointed and immensely striking and effective.
Profanity, if used at the correct moments, can really add "oomph" to trying to give voice to complex emotional sentiment. It's just that if it gets over-used, it loses its power and effectiveness.
I agree. When Dorian says it, there is emotion and passion in it. It's meaningful and powerful.
That being said, though, I love cussing. And having Varric or Bull casually saying "sh*t" once in a while is fine by me.
The fact that characters suddenly found out that f*** exist make the world feel a bit more natural and less stale
It is a natural reaction in "our world". But after first two dragon age games one would think that "By Andrastes holy panties" is the worst possible swear they have in Thedas... And argument "it adds realism" is out of question. I've never noticed this game was meant to reflect reality
Well, that's your preference, but I do feel that it does add realism. Who, in this world, doesn't swear or doesn't use bawdy language on occasion?
Even the ancient Romans used vulgarities and made dirty jokes, etc. Some of this translated graffiti that I am now linking is NSFW (actually, most of it is NSFW I guess) so be forewarned if you click on the following link to read examples of ancient Roman graffiti. Do not say that I didn't warn you in advance about the expletives, etc.: http://www.kashgar.c...and-Herculaneum
I would argue that it is DA:O that wasn't particularly realistic in terms of language usage and the lack of swearing. Honestly, my personal reaction to finding out about the whole "Warden has to sacrifice his/her life to slay the archdemon" thing kind of made me swear at the time - not a particularly pleasant revelation.
Well, that's your preference, but I do feel that it does add realism. Who, in this world, doesn't swear or doesn't use bawdy language on occasion?
Even the ancient Romans used vulgarities and made dirty jokes, etc. Some of this translated graffiti that I am now linking is NSFW (actually, most of it is NSFW I guess) so be forewarned if you click on the following link to read examples of ancient Roman graffiti. Do not say that I didn't warn you in advance about the expletives, etc.: http://www.kashgar.c...and-Herculaneum
I would argue that it is DA:O that wasn't particularly realistic in terms of language usage and the lack of swearing. Honestly, my personal reaction to finding out about the whole "Warden has to sacrifice his/her life to slay the archdemon" thing kind of made me swear at the time - not a particularly pleasant revelation.
Thanks for sharing that link. Interesting and entertaining.
Who, in this world, doesn't swear or doesn't use bawdy language on occasion?
A lot of people, actually.
A lot of people, actually.
I did say on occasion. I don't believe that anyone suggests swearing every other word on a regular basis (unless you're cursing at your monitor like I do when dealing with bad edits; FYI, I telecommute, so nobody is in danger of hearing any of my bad words but me - heh). What people seem to be saying, for the most part, is that it seems to be a more normal human reaction to maybe let the occasional epithet fly when confronted with a shocking or emotionally-charged situation.
My perspective is that if you lay a major life-and-death revelation on me (like my earlier Warden-related example), then I would really have wanted to react a bit more viscerally. It just seems like one of those situations where it might be more appropriate to have the option for words a bit stronger than "Andraste's flaming knickers" and so forth.
It's an M rated game. It isn't that I don't understand how people would not want to hear fecking words like feck in a quasi middle ages fantasy but unless it's modded out you just have to fecking deal with it.
Personally, there were many a moment I knew my Quizzy was absolutely saying goddammeeet.
Likewise here it is almost never heard. The majority of the times it is, it is coming from a television or a computer screen.
Never heard of... is you Canadian?
Well in my language when someone use word f*ck, it is like saying that you are an idiot. Pretty loud and clear (nevertheless, may people in my country swear these days 
) so sorry for not wanting swears in this game I love more than any
But now I am very interesting how does Dorian says the F word. Cause you yaoi-fagals have been talking about it like it was main thing in the game
Thanks for sharing that link. Interesting and entertaining.
You're welcome. I love language and writing in its many forms - including the usage of more earthy language in small, situation-appropriate doses. I think people tend to idealize ancient civilizations without realizing that the people who lived thousands of years ago are not really all that different from us - and that they cursed and used dirty language just like we do.
Never heard of... is you Canadian?
Let me guess... you would be 'murican am I right...? XD
I did say on occasion. I don't believe that anyone suggests swearing every other word on a regular basis (unless you're cursing at your monitor like I do when dealing with bad edits; FYI, I telecommute, so nobody is in danger of hearing any of my bad words but me - heh). What people seem to be saying, for the most part, is that it seems to be a more normal human reaction to maybe let the occasional epithet fly when confronted with a shocking or emotionally-charged situation.
My perspective is that if you lay a major life-and-death revelation on me (like my earlier Warden-related example), then I would really have wanted to react a bit more viscerally. It just seems like one of those situations where it might be more appropriate to have the option for words a bit stronger than "Andraste's flaming knickers" and so forth.
I know you did. And there are many people who do not swear even on occasion. It can be as foreign to their vocabulary as actual foreign terms.
And that is fine for you, not saying it isn't. But for many people, that would not be their reaction. So it shouldn't really be forced onto characters. NPCs are one thing, and even then I think there should be more variety(there are only a couple characters I can think of that don't swear) but the protagonist having to say those things is stripping freedom away from what was advertised as the player's character.
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