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[berrieh]

Swearing and maturity have nothing to do with each other. 

 

No but swearing and an M rating, which is the way Mature was referenced, do have a lot to do with each other. The game was rated M for a variety of reasons, yeah, but I generally expect to see some cursing, some gory/bloody stuff, and maybe some sex in an M rated game. Cursing being the mildest of those 3. 

 

As to the setting, I get that they have other curse words as well, but why is it weird to hear them use regular English curse words when it's not weird to hear them use other English words? It's not like the word "F---" (censored so it doesn't just become ****) or S--- are even new curse words. They're quite old. So if it's the idea that DA mimicks old-timey language, well.... F--- is a pretty old word. 

[Mr.House]

It made me cringe every time I heard it and took me right out of the game. I'm hoping it doesn't show up in future dialogue because it did not work.

I disagree. DO the scene with Dorian in his personal quest. I can't see another other word replacing f*** there without it damaging that powerful scene.

[Medhia_Nox]

I'm glad there are swear words - not because "Ohh, swear words."  But swearing is so conversational that it seems so sanitized without them.

 

I don't want every f--king sentence polluted with a hundred f--king swears... but the simple smattering present in DA:I is very good I feel.

[Fiery Phoenix]

Was the F word even uttered in Origins or DA2 at all? I don't really remember.

 

Maybe a couple times in DA2 but I'm pretty sure not in DA:O.

[rak72]

I find the cursing in DA2 & Inq to sound wierd ... like they are just putting it in there to be "edgy". In DAO, we had sodding, that seemed to blend into the conversations more naturaly for me.

*shrugs

[errantknight]

Blackwall says it, too.

 

Personally, I think the F word sounds cheesy in this setting.

I don't have a problem with it, per se, but it does tug at immersion in this setting, mainly since game world swears were used entirely in Origins and Hawke, who had more occasion to swear than any, didn't swear at all. I lol'd at the 'well, ****,' but I don't thin it necessarily serves the game to go further down this route.

[Sifr]

Blame Fiona, she opened the floodgates in Asunder when she dropped the first instance of the f-word in the series.

 

[TheJediSaint]

I disagree. DO the scene with Dorian in his personal quest. I can't see another other word replacing f*** there without it damaging that powerful scene.

A "Your gosh darn legacy!" just doesn't have the same punch to it.

[Bann Duncan]

I disagree. DO the scene with Dorian in his personal quest. I can't see another other word replacing f*** there without it damaging that powerful scene.

 

Bloody legacy with the same delivery would have worked better still, and even have a double-meaning.

 

The word there just made that whole quest, though well-written, feel even more anachronistic.

[Bann Duncan]

I don't have a problem with it, per se, but it does tug at immersion in this setting, mainly since game world swears were used entirely in Origins and Hawke, who had more occasion to swear than any, didn't swear at all. I lol'd at the 'well, ****,' but I don't thin it necessarily serves the game to go further down this route.

 

This! We're not 'scared away by maturity' or whatever else the 13 year olds think.

[Sifr]

Bloody legacy with the same delivery would have worked better still, and even have a double-meaning.

 

The word there just made that whole quest, though well-written, feel even more anachronistic.

 

I dunno, the first recorded use of the word is apparently from the 15th Century, so it's not too anachronistic to the medieval setting of the game?

[Mr.House]

Bloody legacy with the same delivery would have worked better still, and even have a double-meaning.

 

The word there just made that whole quest, though well-written, feel even more anachronistic.

Nope, lacks the powerful punch "your f***ing legacy" had.

[Mr.House]

This! We're not 'scared away by maturity' or whatever else the 13 year olds think.

No, my problem is when people treat it like it's a modern word when it's not. It's a word, and this word can serve it's purpose when used well and I found DAi handled it well. Same with sh**. I can't see characters like Varric, Isabela, Bull, and Sera without it, they are characters where swear words are part of their vocabulary.

[RobRam10]

Bloody legacy with the same delivery would have worked better still, and even have a double-meaning.

 

The word there just made that whole quest, though well-written, feel even more anachronistic.

Bloody legacy sounds stupid as hell. 

[garrusfan1]

the F word is not exactly used alot. The S word is though and the B word and the others. it's not like they say it alot and when it is it's usually okay and not just cursing because they think it's cute

[Char]

I could do with some more options gor my Inquisitor to tell others to eff off. Though mainly bears. I have developed an active dislike for bears.

[CrazyRah]

I could do with some more options gor my Inquisitor to tell others to eff off. Though mainly bears. I have developed an active dislike for bears.

 

They can be quite un-bear-able

[Mr.House]

They can be quite un-bear-able

Oh god, Rah is turning into Teddie! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[Chernaya]

f*** is an old word. It didn't seem out of setting for me because of anything to do with that. If it did feel out of place, for me it would be because the previous games never used it. Either way, I didn't mind it because it's still used sparingly, and in the scenes it was used it felt appropriate- either for humor or strong emotion. Not just added in to be there. That, and like probably everyone else who goes online I see the word every day and am pretty jaded to it. Just not that big a deal for me. 

[Vikarus]

All these people saying the F word is an old word are missing the point. Yes, in the real world, it's got history. In Dragon Age it has no history. That's the point: it's out of context for the story, not that anyone here is afraid of a little cursing. We're playing an M rated game, I think we can all agree we can handle the swears, it would just be nice to have some consistency.

[Bann Duncan]

All these people saying the F word is an old word are missing the point. Yes, in the real world, it's got history. In Dragon Age it has no history. That's the point: it's out of context for the story, not that anyone here is afraid of a little cursing. We're playing an M rated game, I think we can all agree we can handle the swears, it would just be nice to have some consistency.

 

Exactly. I've actually studied medieval languages, history, and literatures. I'm not ignorant of them.

 

But a lot of actual old elements would be just as out of context as modern ones can be.

 

I didn't mind them at all in Mass Effect, for instance.

[hong]

Perfectly happy with using modern language to facilitate clear communication. It's much better than using affected, overly formal language just so it sounds like "fantasy".

People in this game talk in English (or at least, in my localisation they do). They may use accented English, but it's still English -- and modern English at that, not Anglo-Saxon or Chaucerian or even Shakespearean English. Therefore they should use the mode of English that's most appropriate to the situation at hand. And since English includes vulgar terms, they should also be used where appropriate.

[hong]

Exactly. I've actually studied medieval languages, history, and literatures. I'm not ignorant of them.
 
But a lot of actual old elements would be just as out of context as modern ones can be.
 
I didn't mind them at all in Mass Effect, for instance.

I always found it silly that ME included made-up words like boshtet when there was no in-game reason for it. Either everyone in the galaxy speaks English, in which case boshtet is just a nonsense word; or 22nd century tech can magically translate alien languages into English, in which case it should also have had no trouble with this word; or there's a narrative fiction that people speak using their own languages which are only translated into English for the convenience of the player, in which case again there's no reason not to translate this one word as well.

[Bann Duncan]

I always found it silly that ME included made-up words like boshtet when there was no in-game reason for it. Either everyone in the galaxy speaks English, in which case boshtet is just a nonsense word; or 22nd century tech can magically translate alien languages into English, in which case it should also have had no trouble with this word; or there's a narrative fiction that people speak using their own languages which are only translated into English for the convenience of the player, in which case again there's no reason not to translate this one word as well.

 

I try not to overthink that aspect of ME because it does add a lot of fun.

[Vikarus]

I always found it silly that ME included made-up words like boshtet when there was no in-game reason for it. Either everyone in the galaxy speaks English, in which case boshtet is just a nonsense word; or 22nd century tech can magically translate alien languages into English, in which case it should also have had no trouble with this word; or there's a narrative fiction that people speak using their own languages which are only translated into English for the convenience of the player, in which case again there's no reason not to translate this one word as well.

I had no problem with this. Boshtet was a word that didn't translate well into English, so it garbled the translator, and came out in quarian. Simple. Similar to the word Bull uses and translates for the player involving "great pleasure and respect."

Also check the lore it's stated that everyone is using a translator.