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[Obvious_Shining]

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Gurd is only lvl 23 for you? He's lvl 26 for me and seriously overpowered. And then, just when I thought things were going ok, in come the cronies (and undead) to ruin Olinar's day.

 

I think I need to go back to the potion table and get some more grenades. I have bees and pitch, but I think I'll add in confusion and fire and see if that helps. I can't do any worse, anyway.

 

This fight was extremely frustrating on nightmare, i was so pissed but felt good when he died after few tries. Dark Souls satisfaction.

[SporkFu]

If you've proximity heal and lifeward, regen potions on Cassandra/your tank can do amazing things. Assuming survivability is your problem, not that there's just a million things killing you.

 

 

Y'know, she and Inky were just trying to get Cassandra in a dress...for very different reasons, I'm sure.

 

So, Spork's recent victory inspired me to try taking out all three Emprise dragons in one go...on NM. Revas killed the first two in one go (with the wrong weapons again, because evidently I just can't get this right even when I know better) and gave a half-hearted attempt at the Ravager. Got her to 143k hp out of 311k, then she called in more (and by that, I mean too many) of her babies. Revas took one look at them and decided to keel over right then and there. Vivienne sneered until she was taken down, Varric was already enjoying a nice dirt nap and Cassandra [disgusted noise]ed us all and was quickly overwhelmed before she could get anybody to get off their lazy butts and help.

 

So in short, I could probably kill her (probably without restocking, if I really wanted to test my patience  ) but decided to let her get her beauty sleep while the group heads out to the Wastes for some better crafting materials and schematics. 

 

On an unrelated note, I just noticed I somehow missed chapter one of Hard in Hightown this playthrough. I've gotten it on all the others but...I can't remember where  Anybody happen to know where to find it?

Congrats on the NM attempt of all three dragons. Impressive. You're a braver soul than I am, heh. I dunno if I'll ever try a NM run of Inquisition -- The Ravager kicking my butt on casual was bad enough She sure does call in a lot of her kiddies doesn't she?

 

Hell even Kaltenzahn on NM would probably leave me frustrated and P.O.'d enough. 

[themikefest]

Congrats on the NM attempt of all three dragons. Impressive. You're a braver soul than I am, heh. I dunno if I'll ever try a NM run of Inquisition -- The Ravager kicking my butt on casual was bad enough She sure does call in a lot of her kiddies doesn't she?

 

Hell even Kaltenzahn on NM would probably leave me frustrated and P.O.'d enough. 

Ha. My knight enchanter had them for lunch on nightmare. I find nightmare mode easier than insanity mode for ME3

[SporkFu]

Ha. My knight enchanter had them for lunch on nightmare. I find nightmare mode easier than insanity mode for ME3

Hmm... okay maybe one day i will give NM a try. Maybe I get myself in trouble with declarations sometimes. ME3 insanity was only frustrating in a couple spots once I got used to the importance, both of staying in cover, and of not staying in cover for too long  

[Nightingale]

I thought Insanity on ME3 was easier than the easier difficulties for the same reason: I got brave (read: stupid) and would jump out of cover, thinking I could take the enemy...and failing miserably   ME2's Insanity, on the other hand, was just brutal. At least ME1 had new game+.

 

NM is pretty much the same concept. I started on Hard on my first PT and have been doing NM for all the rest and I actually think Hard was, uh, harder. Maybe it's just because it was my first run? Anyway, if you have a balanced enough team and keep barriers up, it's really not a problem. Babysitting your tank is occasionally something you need to do (what are you doing, Cassandra? Stop trying to flank the dragon, you're just drawing attention to the rogues!) but I've never found tac-cam a requirement. That said, you probably will want to craft most of your main team's armour rather than using what you find for most of the game.

 

Which reminds me, I lucked out while clearing out the Sahrnia mine and got my first piece of FT Silverite. Stuck it on Inky's new Sturdy Prowler Armour and you're absolutely right, Spork, it's amazing! 

[Freedheart]

Enter Nadal Adaar - tal-vashoth mercenary, and beautiful a** kicker.  She was at the conclave, feeling rather pleased with herself: Lord mucky-muck has a sister who is a Grand Cleric, needs security; Lady what's-her-bucket is having it off with a templar, needs security; Duke stick-up-his-butt has a daughter who is a First Enchanter, needs security.  Three paychecks for one job!  Was all the same, keep everybody safe...easy enough, right?  She had most of her crew stationed at the base of the mountain, scanning the crowd, looking for shifty-eyed folks...well SHIFTIER eyed, she supposed.  The rest were making a show of themselves and their weapons, making certain folks knew they were being watched.  Nadal figured she would scout the meeting areas....

 

...W.T.F?!?!?  Spiders, glowy chick, now she was in a dungeon.  Yelly woman and Whispers tried to interrogate her...she wasn't talking until she could clear her head.  Then Yelly pointed out that she had few options but to cooperate - jailed, chained and in pain from whatever that green thing on her hand was.  Whispers took off, and Yelly tied her hands and took her out of the dungeon.  Lots of angry faces here, all pointed in Nadal's direction - nothing new, growing up outside of Qunari-held lands, she knew humans and elves alike held no love for her kind...but there was something else.  Yelly - turns out her name was Cassandra, pointed out a HUMONGOUS green hole in the sky - which flared up, and filled her body with wracking spasms.    Cassandra tried to hold back tears as she mentioned how they were all in shock because the Divine and the rest of the conclave had been blown to bits.  Nadal was the only survivor - which made her the obvious scapegoat.  So, bloodlust mixed with deep sorrow - things were looking a little dicey for Nadal, so she figured she would do what she could to make Yell...er, Cassandra happy and then high-tail it out of wherever she was.  On the way to do the thing - close the what? she was foggy on the details, but still going along with the plan - they found some troops fighting *insert name of your god here* knows what.  Threadbare, hairless elf grabbed her hand and WOWZA what the hell just happened there? Talky dwarf guy said some stuff, made Cassandra grunt a lot - tension there, sexual maybe?   Killed some more demony things - Nadal wasn't picky, they wanted to kill her, she let her greatsword do the talking. They met up with Whispers and Old Man Lock-Her-Up  , decided to take the direct route up the mountain.

 

Oh my...Nadal generally preferred the fairer sex, but that Commander run-your-fingers-through-my-hair was a fine piece of a**  ....oh, he was a bit grumpy with her - 'risked a lot getting you here', pfft she didn't ask for this, you know.   Fine, while he went and did whatever, Nadal was going to save the world...or that was what she gleaned from Cassandra, Shine and Chest Hair.  That meant returning to the Temple, which was pretty horrific - Nadal had seen some nasty stuff in her line of work, but this was beyond the pale.  What could possibly have caused this amount of destruction? She quietly walked through the wreckage, averting her eyes as best she could from the charred remains of the people she was supposed to have been protecting.   Coming through a passageway, they met up with Whispers, aka Leiliana.  They all had a shared hallucination of something torturing the Divine, and Nadal saw herself rushing into the room.  Cassandra was really upset by this, and Shine explained that the rift had torn the veil, and the fade was leaking in - what they saw was a vision of what had happened.  Nadal wasn't sure, but she didn't think the day could get much worse.

 

Jinxed herself!  That hole in the sky was pretty darned high, but Shine said she could close the rift thingy closer to the ground, it was the first and might close the hole.  He spoke with enough conviction, she figured even if he was wrong, he certainly seemed to know what he was talking about, which put him one up on just about everyone else she had met that day.  He may have mentioned that she had to open it up and let more demony crap pour out of it to do so, she probably would've inquired about plan B.  She had heard of Pride Demons before, but this was...arrows, swords, spells - nothing seemed to even slow it down.  Nadal pointed her hand at the rift thingy again, and it seemed to weaken the pride demon a bit, though new baddies came through.  She let the soldiers work on those, as she, Cassandra, Shine and Chest Hair worked on the pride demon.  Whack, slash, arrow, spell...pop the rift...repeat, slowly but surely they dispatched the demons.  Nadal pointed her hand at the rift one more time, pouring everything she had into it....then nothing.

[SporkFu]

I thought Insanity on ME3 was easier than the easier difficulties for the same reason: I got brave (read: stupid) and would jump out of cover, thinking I could take the enemy...and failing miserably   ME2's Insanity, on the other hand, was just brutal. At least ME1 had new game+.

 

NM is pretty much the same concept. I started on Hard on my first PT and have been doing NM for all the rest and I actually think Hard was, uh, harder. Maybe it's just because it was my first run? Anyway, if you have a balanced enough team and keep barriers up, it's really not a problem. Babysitting your tank is occasionally something you need to do (what are you doing, Cassandra? Stop trying to flank the dragon, you're just drawing attention to the rogues!) but I've never found tac-cam a requirement. That said, you probably will want to craft most of your main team's armour rather than using what you find for most of the game.

 

Which reminds me, I lucked out while clearing out the Sahrnia mine and got my first piece of FT Silverite. Stuck it on Inky's new Sturdy Prowler Armour and you're absolutely right, Spork, it's amazing! 

Nice find on the FT Silverite. I farmed a chunk of it in the Highland ravager's Lair for over an hour to get a piece of it before taking on the new DLC. It's a nice feeling to never be defenseless again, heh. As for the NM difficulty, I dunno... I don't like to babysit my team. They know when there is something to kill even if it just an occasional unfortunate fennec, so I like to just let them go to it. Especially in the case of that unfortunate fennec, because they just want to chase it forever. But that's part of why i like the easier difficulties. I don't have to worry about that stuff. Admittedly it makes me lazy in combat, and then panic when I do try insanity/nightmare difficulties. 

 

As for me, I just finished the Jaws of Hakkon DLC. ... For everyone who reads this, I can easily recommend it as worth playing. If you enjoy(ed) Inquisition then I think you'll find it worth the fifteen bucks. I have to rush off to work now, so if you'll all bear with me, I'll post some screenies and thoughts later  

[Melbella]

If you've proximity heal and lifeward, regen potions on Cassandra/your tank can do amazing things. Assuming survivability is your problem, not that there's just a million things killing you.
 

 
Oh, yes, all my potions/grenades/tonics are fully upgraded. The problem is

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 too many enemies once Gurd summons his cronies. No way those archers should be able to one-shot kill through full barrier, full guard, AND full health.

That's just cheating.  Can you imagine how ridiculously easy the game would be if WE could do that?!  Not to mention, as soon as I take control of another party member, Olinar bites it.

 

 

Ha. My knight enchanter had them for lunch on nightmare. I find nightmare mode easier than insanity mode for ME3

 

Re: NM mode, the toughest battles for me are the ones with multiple enemies. If you can focus your effort on one target, then it's just a matter of time before you wear it down. If you have to watch from all directions because hordes of enemies are coming at you from every which way (like the trebuchet battle in Haven) that's when it gets tricky. A lot of it is luck and timing, but you also need to have the right equipment and abilities mapped. Oh, and not having the game glitch you out of 200 focus points would also be nice.

[Nightingale]

 
Oh, yes, all my potions/grenades/tonics are fully upgraded. The problem is

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 too many enemies once Gurd summons his cronies. No way those archers should be able to one-shot kill through full barrier, full guard, AND full health.

That's just cheating.  Can you imagine how ridiculously easy the game would be if WE could do that?!  Not to mention, as soon as I take control of another party member, Olinar bites it.

 

 

 

Re: NM mode, the toughest battles for me are the ones with multiple enemies. If you can focus your effort on one target, then it's just a matter of time before you wear it down. If you have to watch from all directions because hordes of enemies are coming at you from every which way (like the trebuchet battle in Haven) that's when it gets tricky. A lot of it is luck and timing, but you also need to have the right equipment and abilities mapped. Oh, and not having the game glitch you out of 200 focus points would also be nice.

 

Gosh, that sounds like so much fun   

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Rock Armour tonic could help, then. Maybe stun the archers while you get some AoEs going? That way even if someone goes down, you can attempt to take a few down with them while someone else revives.

I've noticed Inky seems to take dirt naps as soon as you switch to someone else regardless of class/spec 

 

Urgh, the trebuchet battle took me a bit over two hours this playthrough. Not used to being stuck with a DW rogue, and all those reinforcements...Shoulda gone for the trebuchet and left Denam alone but nooo 

 

Why is the game glitching and resetting you at 100 focus? I've had this problem a lot the last few days. Quite annoying and not sure what's causing it/how to fix it.

[Melbella]

Why is the game glitching and resetting you at 100 focus? I've had this problem a lot the last few days. Quite annoying and not sure what's causing it/how to fix it.

No idea why but it hasn't happened that I noticed before until post-Patch 6 and DLC. I guess it could have always been the case but maybe because I wasn't dying much (at higher levels) I didn't notice it? Don't know. Now, whenever a party member gets revived, their focus max is reset to 100. If I save/reload, the max is restored but the lost focus points are not. It's super annoying. This is why I am reloading every time Olinar dies, rather than just reviving him. I need those points!  

[BraveVesperia]

I do hope the dlc comes out soon. All these juicy dlc posts that I want to read!

The PS4 updated today with all this complicated shizz that I really don't need. Voice activation... why? 

 

Trev’s heard yet another tale of strange things Cole has been doing, and decided to confront the spirit. They pieced the story together, with Trev finally understanding. But when he got to the final issue (bread on the walls), Cole disappeared. Literally.  One moment he was there, explaining the bread thing. Next, bam! Gone, and just a marker saying ‘Look for Cole’. Trev went off and found him staring at a sad healer. He observed Cole helping the woman through her problem, they talked about it, and that was it. I’m preeeeetty sure I didn’t get my ‘Cole Greatly Approves’ since the ‘strange things’ conversation was technically never completed. Hmm. 

 

He moved on to talk to Vivienne, who complimented him on his design choices. Trev replied that they were inspired by none other than Viv herself. Which is a pretty backhanded compliment, since he hasn’t decorated at all yet.  The place is still covered with mildewed drapes and tatty banners. I guess Vivienne is blind? Or that was a burn? Anywho, he chatted to Dorian afterwards, who lamented Felix’s death, but suggested he’d found a new partner in crime - Trev.  Blackwall, on the other hand, doesn’t seem impressed with Trev’s flippant attitude. I’m sure he’ll feel better with some gifts.

 

I have to ask, does anyone else see this when they travel to a new area?

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He looks like his legs have sort of crumpled up into his body. Freaky.

 

The party moved onto Emprise du Lion. I’m switching things up. Previously it was 2 zones, Adamant, 2 zones, Halamshiral, 2 zones, Arbor Wilds. Something like that. This time I’m doing all the zones before the main quests. I won’t do everything in them (like dragons) and I’m not unlocking operations, but I figure I’ll save the best stuff until last.

 

First off, we went to take care of Cassandra’s hit. Strangely, there was no one there. A little fire was burning away merrily, bed rolls out, but no shifty looking guys around. Maybe they’ve nipped out for some shopping?  We’ll come back later. The team got ambushed by a horde of wolves, and managed to kill several snoufleurs while taking them out. Well... at least those hides might come in handy. 

 

Harvested my first ever FT silverite... only to find it’s the wrong one (not the guard-generating one).  Boo! Surprisingly, the red templar behemoths weren’t too much of a challenge. Though they make some creepy gurgle-roar after dying. Trev staked the operation site to rebuild the big bridge, so maybe we’ll nip over and try for silverite over there. I was wondering though, how exactly do you rebuild a sky-high bridge?

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I mean, it’s not like you can build up a scaffold to support the bridge and workers. Maybe a wizard did it? 

 

Finished off the adventure by being big goddamn heroes and rescuing some captive villagers. Trev drew all the templar attention, much to his consternation, while the party picked them off. Then Sera freed the prisoners, who were almost going hoarse shouting at us to be freed. We forgot one, just before we were about to leave. Trev ran all the way across the quarry to the last cage. Then switched to Sera, who was... still at the exit.  Switched back to Trev, and of course he’d teleported to Sera’s location. So I switched back to Sera and ran back across the quarry. You guys don’t like to save time, do you? Think of poor Dorian, freezing to death. He’d probably complain but I think his moustache’s frozen his mouth shut.

[Freedheart]

Ugh! I wanted to post a picture of Nadal, since I'm really pleased with how she turned out.  I downloaded DAI Cinematic Tools, but the keys on my numpad aren't doing anything...   Any hints would be greatly appreciated - pm me if you would, i don't want to derail the thread    Thanks in advance

[Melbella]

A quick update on my NM issues....apparently the biggest problem last night was: I was tired.  Got him on the first try today. I did change out some of my potions first though. Added rock armor for Cass and fire/confusion grenades for Olinar and Dorian. So, yay, on to the next battle!

 

Edit: Finished! Now I can go back and read all the spoilery parts I skipped earlier.

[SporkFu]

Nice pics but, and this is just my opinion , but a lot of folks were kinda grateful that everyone had been doing a pretty good job of keeping DLC stuff within spoiler tags.

[gottaloveme]

Started the DLC (yay! it got me back with Lyell) unfortunately I haven't gotten far because the dang thing keeps crapping out every five minutes.

 

I have played now with Trevelyan, Lavellan and Adaar but apart from some culture specific dialogue they don't seem to be any different.    Maybe I just suck at the roleplay thing.

 

Anyway next time I'm here I'll introduce you all to Urdnot Adaar and the other one.

[themikefest]

Nice pics but, and this is just my opinion , but a lot of folks were kinda grateful that everyone had been doing a pretty good job of keeping DLC stuff within spoiler tags.

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that's right. I won't be able to play the dlc till its available for my platform

[Steelcan]

cleared the Fallow Mire

[Scuttlebutt101]

Ran around the Hissing Wastes doing the dwarven quest. Met a shifty-looking barrel.

 

 

Tried to explode it, didn't work, so I just went about my business. Luckily, the barrel was unaggressive.

 

Encountered some annoying bugs on the way to the last quest area - party slowed down to a crawl during combat, couldn't select another party member and the audio disappeared. Restarted the game, everything worked smoothly. When we reached the spot there was a dragon sleeping in the middle of it and since the party consisted of only me and Blackwall, I retreated back to Skyhold and called it a day.

[Freedheart]

lol @ that barrel.  and why exactly are we attacking the bales of hay in emprise du lion again?

[Scuttlebutt101]

lol @ that barrel.  and why exactly are we attacking the bales of hay in emprise du lion again?

And why are they bursting into flames when I'm shooting arrows at them?

[Nightingale]

Revas killed the Highland Ravager   Super fun fight, if a bit easy with Cass, Viv and Blackwall. I armed Mr. Warden Fanboy with proximity fire resistance and Rock Armour tonics...and completely forgot about them. Luckily, between him using Bodyguard and Cassandra doing whatever it is she usually does and Revas with FT silverite, potions weren't really necessary.

 

Anyway, not sure what's up with the covert enemy-barrel, but if you mean the hay bales in the Exalted Plains, they are meant to help kill the zombies and control the field. Not sure why regular attacks set 'em on fire, though 

[gottaloveme]

And why are they bursting into flames when I'm shooting arrows at them?

 

Because it's fuuuuun

[Melbella]

End game...er, mission...spoilers and pics for Jaws of Hakkon:

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So, after finally beating the stuffing out of that blowhard Gurd (the big cheater) a giant ice dragon was released from stasis and flew away to make trouble. Before heading off to kill it, Olinar and crew had a very interesting meeting with the last Inquisitor.

I can't say why, but early on playing the DLC I was thinking Ameridan was an elf. A ridiculous thought, of course, but I couldn't shake it. Maybe his name just sounded elf-y? And, it turns out, not only was he an elf, but a mage too. Who looks eerily like Olinar.




Same tattoos and everything. Seriously, it was like looking in a mirror and seeing what he might look like in 40 years, if he lives that long. Freaky!

Whatever spell had kept him alive for so long was quickly wearing off, so they made it a quick chat. So much history turned upside down in the span of a few minutes. Is Olinar doomed to the same fate as Ameridan?




After the old Inquisitor's passing, Olinar and crew went in search of his memories, one last gift from one Inqui to another.


 

 

After reporting their findings to Prof. Kenric (and telling him the truth of it), off they went in search of Hakkon. This fight was soooo much easier than the one against Gurd. First, the dragon was only lvl 25 and by now Olinar had lvl'd to 27. Also, no cronies. In fact, it was so easy, they had to do it twice since the first time he glitched out and wouldn't die.

First fight:

Mark of the Rift doing its thing:


One last rush:


And, just hanging around freezing stuff for fun:

 

 

Second fight (I didn't reload, I just ran back to camp and came back to find him back to full health ):




Not sure if he was defeated, or freed?



Olinar's philosophy in a nutshell, and pretty much why he drank from the Well:


Back to Stone-Bear Hold for some beary funny puns:



What a good bear (agent) you are:


Lastly, a hilarious easter egg I found in the Temple after I went back to find the one fire pit I'd missed:




So, that's it for the DLC. I really enjoyed it, other than the tough Gurd battle I had so much trouble with yesterday. I need to go back, though, and find the Nox Morta that Spork wrote about since I missed that somehow. Probably in all my wanderings trying to avoid Hakkonites.

I look forward to playing it next time on an easier difficulty, and will probably do it pre-end game so I can bring Solas. This run I stuck with Dorian, Cass, and Sera for the entire time.

 

[Freedheart]

ugh, yes...exhalted plains, home of the neverending deadening...thanks nightingale

[SporkFu]

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Yes, I forgot

Anyway, if I see a spoiler tag it's the first thing I click. I can't help being human lacking the backbones.

Thank you for the spoiler tags. Much appreciated!

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You're not alone. I'm just as bad for clicking on that spoiler when I see it.