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[Ashaantha]

How about this one: Thedas is in the southern hemisphere of its world therefore south=cold. The Avvar have Icelandic names, dress in warm furs and use ice magic, and yet the Frostback Basin is full of lush vegetation, massive deciduous trees and parrots!

 

Spoiler

 

Does that speak of Antarctic tundra to you? 

 

I think there's a little bit of lore/level design inconsistency going on...

 

hmm actually the Frostback Basin, so that zone, is in a protected valley in the mountains. It's very possible for the lush vegetation to be there and for it to be cold.

[Excella Gionne]

I assume it's in preparation for the new DLC... Maybe they'll also fix the bugs in the Qunari DLC armours...

I don't know, @YourFunnyUncle,  whenever we want Biovare to patch something so badly, they never do. ME3 was one of those examples. 

[Ashaantha]

It'll be the Patch for the DLC to work properly, adding some of it's code to the game just in case you buy the DLC etc.

[SporkFu]

It'll be the Patch for the DLC to work properly, adding some of it's code to the game just in case you buy the DLC etc.

Just in case hehe

[Excella Gionne]

Hmmm, my DA:I is up-to-date... unless it DL'ed while I was in MP earlier heh

That could have happened. I guess you can check your DA:I.exe and see if the "last update" was yesterday or today. 

[YourFunnyUncle]

hmm actually the Frostback Basin, so that zone, is in a protected valley in the mountains. It's very possible for the lush vegetation to be there and for it to be cold.

Please show me a species of Arctic parrot...

 

Edit: Also, the nearer the poles and the higher you are, the less likely is it to get deciduous trees, protected in a valley or not, and these are massive trees....

[SporkFu]

That could have happened. I guess you can check your DA:I.exe and see if the "last update" was yesterday or today.

No change in it that I could see, tech expert that I am ... oh well, I won't be buying the DLC until later Wednesday since I'll be away from my PC for a couple of days. so maybe everything will be done by then *shrug*​

[Ashaantha]

Please show me a species of Arctic parrot...

 

Where are you getting Arctic geography from for it? as far as I recall far south of the Wilds is where the artic/antarctic type geography starts. the Basin seems to be in line with the Wilds as it is still on the Thedas map, where the arctic-type geography is hinted at/guessed at but not shown on the Thedas map

[Ashaantha]

No change in it that I could see, tech expert that I am ... oh well, I won't be buying the DLC until later Wednesday since I'll be away from my PC for a couple of days. so maybe everything will be done by then *shrug*​

 

It's apparently on the PS4 already, hasn't shown on my Origin yet (the patch)

[YourFunnyUncle]

Where are you getting Arctic geography from for it? as far as I recall far south of the Wilds is where the artic/antarctic type geography starts. the Basin seems to be in line with the Wilds as it is still on the Thedas map, where the arctic-type geography is hinted at/guessed at but not shown on the Thedas map

The Avvar have Nordic names. They are dressed like people from the far north. The Frostback Basin is right on the southern edge of the map, and at altitude. I don't mean that we're inside the Antarctic circle necessarily, but we're getting close. If there's forest there, I'd be expecting forest like this.

 

Even if we accept that it's on the southern edge of the temperate zone I wouldn't be expecting massive deciduous trees on that scale and I definitely wouldn't expect brightly coloured parrots...

[Ashaantha]

The Avvar have Nordic names. They are dressed like people from the far north. The Frostback Basin is right on the southern edge of the map, and at altitude. If there's forest there, I'd be expecting forest like this.

 

Even if we accept that it's on the southern edge of the temperate zone I wouldn't be expecting massive deciduous trees on that scale and I definitely wouldn't expect brightly coloured parrots...

 

You're very correct about the vegetation better suiting the land by being Coniferous forest instead.

 

It's likely they simply didn't have the time resources to create entirely new assets for a DLC, since they used the Arbor Wild ones for it. That would be the best they could manage I guess? the type of vegetation looks out of place, yeah, but it is a fantasy world. I was just originally meaning vegetation in a valley surrounded by snow capped mountains is normal, wasn't being overly descriptive sorry. I know, I used the term lush to be annoying

[Rascoth]

Guys, I have an answer.

 

 

...

I'm sorry, I'll hide in a corner.

 

But seriously, I stopped thinking about this after my first game. It only gives you a headache.

[YourFunnyUncle]

You're very correct about the vegetation better suiting the land by being Coniferous forest instead.

 

It's likely they simply didn't have the time resources to create entirely new assets for a DLC, since they used the Arbor Wild ones for it. That would be the best they could manage I guess? the type of vegetation looks out of place, yeah, but it is a fantasy world. I was just originally meaning vegetation in a valley surrounded by snow capped mountains is normal, wasn't being overly descriptive sorry. I know, I used the term lush to be annoying

Yeah that's what I meant when I said there's some level design/lore discrepancy going on...

[Ashaantha]

Answer: fantasy world in books and a video game! I was talking about the season being static for the entire game (which def lasts longer then 3-4 months) earlier haha .

I'll be stuck on the "always cold" thing for a long time though.. just because everyone needs a headache causing problem. Zone/Area vegetation and animals are not mine for DAI haha.

[YourFunnyUncle]

Hmmm... Actually it does kind of look a bit like this from the article I linked to, so maybe I was being a little harsh. The trees are still too big and parrots are still silly, though.

 

Spoiler

 

 

I'll be stuck on the "always cold" thing for a long time though.. just because everyone needs a headache causing problem. Zone/Area vegetation and animals are not mine for DAI haha.

 

I think Dorian just thinks it's cold everywhere south of Tevinter. This is typical behaviour for people from warm countries. I know. My wife is Mexican. They start wrapping up in winter coats if the temperature drops into the low teens in Celsius... It's also tradition for Orlesians to complain about the weather in Fereleden.

[Rascoth]

I think Dorian just thinks it's cold everywhere south of Tevinter. This is typical behaviour for people from warm countries. I know. My wife is Mexican. They start wrapping up in winter coats if the temperature drops into the low teens in Celsius... It's also tradition for Orlesians to complain about the weather in Fereleden.

Correction. It's tradition for Orlesians to complain about everything 

 

 It seems we're getting Silent Sister as mp agent. I must admit, I'm quite excited.

[Ashaantha]

I'm like Dorian in a way. anything under 23 degrees Celsius is too cold

[Magdalena11]

Truth!

 

On the statues, I always saw the ones in Emprise and Hissing Wastes etc as Qunari looking. Even the SoQ pack decor has naked female Qunari statues. Just sayin'

 

I touched the pyramid too...

 

I noticed the same thing myself, and it's not just the demon statues.  If you look at the Colossus in the Wastes, it's got horns too.  Mira, my Qunari, took the wrong path to the tomb and wound up on top of the statue's head, so I took a picture to note the family resemblance.  It might have more to do with the fact that the dragons have horns, and dragons are the apex predators in Thedas.

 

Wherever you live, people make monsters out of their biggest threat.  Their leaders put on costumes that make them look powerful and dangerous like their people's enemy.  In Dungeons and Dragons, we had werewolves, but also wererats, weretigers, and werebears.  Those things are what happens when people make a mistake and try to become what they fear rather than just putting on its skin.

 

A real world example is Viking helmets.  They are pictured with horns, so they have them, right?  Well, in a way, they do.  The helmet a person fought in had no horns, they'd just catch a blade, and I know because my partner has one.  The leaders were, however, buried with horned helmets to show their greatness.  They were just for show, and their leaders wore them over their dead body.

 

Speaking of verifying myth, here's proof that pegusi existed in Thedas at some point.

 

[Forsythia77]

Gosh you all are chatty!  I was on yesterday and you guys managed to make three more pages of fascinating conversation! There are lots of inconsistencies in Thedas. Accents.  Weather. The people who live in Haven.  The layout and look of Redcliffe Village.  Who knows. 

 

I'm like Dorian in a way. anything under 23 degrees Celsius is too cold

 

Funnily enough Dorian complains about it being too cold, but when you go to the Hissing Wastes he complains about drying out from the inside out.  He must like a hot and humid climate.  Is it hot and humid in Teventer?  Is Teventer Florida???  It's Florida.  Florida is where all the weird crap happens in America.  I bet a lot of weird crap happens in Teventer.  One of those war table missions you do states that Dorian is a hothouse Orchid (if you read those things after you complete them - typically I sit too far away from my TV to actually read the notes.  I just note if I got influence or a schematic or whatever).  I hate the heat.  I hate the cold.  It needs to be 72 and sunny at all times.

[Ashaantha]

Gosh you all are chatty!  I was on yesterday and you guys managed to make three more pages of fascinating conversation! There are lots of inconsistencies in Thedas. Accents.  Weather. The people who live in Haven.  The layout and look of Redcliffe Village.  Who knows. 

 

 

Funnily enough Dorian complains about it being too cold, but when you go to the Hissing Wastes he complains about drying out from the inside out.  He must like a hot and humid climate.  Is it hot and humid in Teventer?  Is Teventer Florida???  It's Florida.  Florida is where all the weird crap happens in America.  I bet a lot of weird crap happens in Teventer.  One of those war table missions you do states that Dorian is a hothouse Orchid (if you read those things after you complete them - typically I sit too far away from my TV to actually read the notes.  I just note if I got influence or a schematic or whatever).  I hate the heat.  I hate the cold.  It needs to be 72 and sunny at all times.

 

I have a feeling Tevinter is in the tropics. Warm, humid, rainforests, cyclones/hurricanes etc

[Excella Gionne]

Alas, to my disappointment, the patch notes show nothing interesting.

[Forsythia77]

I have a feeling Tevinter is in the tropics. Warm, humid, rainforests, cyclones/hurricanes etc

 

So it IS Florida!  I bet it has Gators too.  And giant mosquitos that will suck all your blood to the marrow.

[YourFunnyUncle]

So it IS Florida!  I bet it has Gators too.  And giant mosquitos that will suck all your blood to the marrow.

Or Mexico. Well the coastal part of Mexico, anyway, and we know that Minrathous is on the coast.

[Rascoth]

I noticed the same thing myself, and it's not just the demon statues.  If you look at the Colossus in the Wastes, it's got horns too.  Mira, my Qunari, took the wrong path to the tomb and wound up on top of the statue's head, so I took a picture to note the family resemblance.  It might have more to do with the fact that the dragons have horns, and dragons are the apex predators in Thedas.

 

Wherever you live, people make monsters out of their biggest threat.  Their leaders put on costumes that make them look powerful and dangerous like their people's enemy.  In Dungeons and Dragons, we had werewolves, but also wererats, weretigers, and werebears.  Those things are what happens when people make a mistake and try to become what they fear rather than just putting on its skin.

 

A real world example is Viking helmets.  They are pictured with horns, so they have them, right?  Well, in a way, they do.  The helmet a person fought in had no horns, they'd just catch a blade, and I know because my partner has one.  The leaders were, however, buried with horned helmets to show their greatness.  They were just for show, and their leaders wore them over their dead body.

 

Speaking of verifying myth, here's proof that pegusi existed in Thedas at some point.

 

-snip-

That reminds me! I was going to make screenshot of every painting in Emerald Graves! 

I completely forgot.

 

Alas, to my disappointment, the patch notes show nothing interesting.

I wasn't expecting much.

[Shienis]

Wherever you live, people make monsters out of their biggest threat.  Their leaders put on costumes that make them look powerful and dangerous like their people's enemy.  In Dungeons and Dragons, we had werewolves, but also wererats, weretigers, and werebears.  Those things are what happens when people make a mistake and try to become what they fear rather than just putting on its skin.

 

Oh and don't forget owlbears!