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[Magdalena11]

Life happens and I haven't had as much of a chance to finish anything, but I do have some cool pictures to share.

 

This time, I'm focusing on making sure everyone gets a turn to play at least once, so I've never done the entire Frostback Basin with Cole before.  He's the first one to get left to mind the camp, poor guy.  It makes for some really awesome screens.

 

In no particular order, I discovered that AI pathfinding must have been learned from my cat, who I'm certain was dropped on her head when she was a kitten.  Since when is hiding in plain sight behind a column, flaming orange, a good place to stealth and flank attack?

 

 

 

Elissa looked pretty cool getting caught spinning midair

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and I caught Cole trying to warn my victim, but he got there just a fraction too late.  At least he didn't see it.

 

This was a really good angle for this shot

 

Storvacker is a typical bear.  I did eventually learn that you need to make sure someone isn't in whoever's searching the cell's way, because she has to come investigate and she always blocks the light.

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Confusion grenades help spot spies, and prove the saying that you may kill 2 birds with one stone.

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Tevinter altars look cool from above.

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I did get a good butt shot on one of the stone columns near the fade rift in the ruin, but I'm not digging through all those screens.  Maybe next time.

[Gilli]

Hah, you're still better than some I've heard about.
 
That really depends on diffuculty, party, gear, spells... and luck.
With the last one being the most important.

Good to know
 
I'm playing on Hard 
Also I play post-Ending, did you know that Focus doesn't build up anymore after the fight with Corypheus? I had 100% Focus at the beginning and used it at the first Ogre, it didn't build up anymore after that.
Which means: I'm playing on Hard and the only one left with 1 Focus bar is Dorian, which I didn't use in the fight against the Emissary. 

[Excella Gionne]

The Elusive Nug:

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[Excella Gionne]

Three more level. I would say three best levels. 

You're definitely going to love those.

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'Tis a shame BioWare didn't let us return to the Well Spring.

[YourFunnyUncle]

Good to know

 

I'm playing on Hard 

Also I play post-Ending, did you know that Focus doesn't build up anymore after the fight with Corypheus? I had 100% Focus at the beginning and used it at the first Ogre, it didn't build up anymore after that.

Which means: I'm playing on Hard and the only one left with 1 Focus bar is Dorian, which I didn't use in the fight against the Emissary. 

Er... Yes it does. I think something is bugged in your game because I've used Sera's Thousand Cuts more than once already and Tressa is post-ending.

[Excella Gionne]

Good to know
 
I'm playing on Hard 
Also I play post-Ending, did you know that Focus doesn't build up anymore after the fight with Corypheus? I had 100% Focus at the beginning and used it at the first Ogre, it didn't build up anymore after that.
Which means: I'm playing on Hard and the only one left with 1 Focus bar is Dorian, which I didn't use in the fight against the Emissary. 

Is your Focus Meter building up very, very slowly?

[Gilli]

Er... Yes it does. I think something is bugged in your game because I've used Sera's Thousand Cuts more than once already and Tressa is post-ending.

 

 

Is your Focus Meter building up very, very slowly?

 

That could be possible, tho I switched it out for Energy Barrage when it didn't build up so I can't tell   (I could switch it out again, but I kinda like Energy Barrage  maybe I take Flash Fire out  )

[YourFunnyUncle]

The think that irks me is that when someone dies and is revived, their focus never goes past level one unless I go to Skyhold and back. Then it starts working again normally. This happens all game across all my playthroughs. Is this normal for everyone?

[Excella Gionne]

 

 

That could be possible, tho I switched it out for Energy Barrage when it didn't build up so I can't tell   (I could switch it out again, but I kinda like Energy Barrage  maybe I take Flash Fire out  )

If it's building up too slow like if you're killing a Giant and at the end of the fight you only gain very, very small amount, I'd recommend restarting the game or reloading the save. It has only occurred once for me, and I noticed it when I was playing with Sera. It did affect the entire party. I noticed that the focus meter was hardly building up. 

 

Does Sera's Focus Meter expend completely if you use it on like an enemy that can't survive the full duration of the Thousand Cuts?

[Gilli]

If it's building up too slow like if you're killing a Giant and at the end of the fight you only gain very, very small amount, I'd recommend restarting the game or reloading the save. It has only occurred once for me, and I noticed it when I was playing with Sera. It did affect the entire party. I noticed that the focus meter was hardly building up. 

 

Does Sera's Focus Meter expend completely if you use it on like an enemy that can't survive the full duration of the Thousand Cuts?

 

Oh, okay, thanks for that tipp.

 

I don't know, I only tried Sera's Thousand Cuts on two Dragons till now. The first was one of the Emprise Dragons, where she only had 1 Focus, second was Vinsomer, but there it somehow didn't work. I gave her the Order to use TC with tac-cam and switched back to Bruce. Sera didn't use TC so I went back to her to tell her to use it, but her Focus was empty without using the ability

I don't have Sera with me in the Deep Roads, it's just Bruce, Dorian, Varric and Cole. The only two with Focus abilties in their skill bar are(were) Bruce and Dorian and I rarely use Dorian's Haste. 

[YourFunnyUncle]

I have to admit that I've seen Thousand Cuts misfire a few times, but when it works... Nothing more deadly on a Boss with loads of HP, especially if you have an Assassin rogue with "Mark of Death" in the party.

[Rascoth]

Good to know
 
I'm playing on Hard 
Also I play post-Ending, did you know that Focus doesn't build up anymore after the fight with Corypheus? I had 100% Focus at the beginning and used it at the first Ogre, it didn't build up anymore after that.
Which means: I'm playing on Hard and the only one left with 1 Focus bar is Dorian, which I didn't use in the fight against the Emissary. 

Focus build up normally for me. As others said, maybe you've encountered a bug. I was using everyone's Focus abilities (except for Mark of the Rift, because it's special snowflake I save for 'oh sh*t' situations) multiple times, definitely with more than one bar most of the time.

 

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'Tis a shame BioWare didn't let us return to the Well Spring.

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Yeah, I'm really glad that I made dedicated save at the very entrance.

 

The think that irks me is that when someone dies and is revived, their focus never goes past level one unless I go to Skyhold and back. Then it starts working again normally. This happens all game across all my playthroughs. Is this normal for everyone?

Hmnmn... To tell the truth I haven't notice that.

[Gilli]

Focus build up normally for me. As others said, maybe you've encountered a bug. I was using everyone's Focus abilities (except for Mark of the Rift, because it's special snowflake I save for 'oh sh*t' situations) multiple times, definitely with more than one bar most of the time.

 

Yeah, probably.

 

Cole had some problems too, he would stay in Stealth mode (green ghost) even tho the Stealth skill wasn't active. I had to activate Stealth and then deactivate it to get him back to normal. Happened at least 2-3 times.

[PapaCharlie9]

In no particular order, I discovered that AI pathfinding must have been learned from my cat, who I'm certain was dropped on her head when she was a kitten.  Since when is hiding in plain sight behind a column, flaming orange, a good place to stealth and flank attack?

Yeah, that location plus The Wall at the fortress have serious navmesh errors. In the bear prison, my IQ ended up fighting the bad guys solo, since the rest of party got stuck in the entrance.

[Al Foley]

Well I just finished the Descent.  And i have this nagging headache in the back of my mind.  I don't know why.  

 

So first off Level 4.  

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I stepped off the lift and instantly was a cave...of awesome. BioWare did a great job with the mis-en-scene, and the ambiance of the whole area, I was lookign around, trying to find areas and emeies, jumping at shadows. Fortanatly you fought in the light. Mostly.

Poor Ren. Also those crossbow guys were pretty difficult, Kara was doing a bunch of fighting and rolling away.

lol. Pretty much it for Level four things did not get particularily interesting.

 

Onto Level 5

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It was here that things started to get really interesting. And beautiful. More interesting fights. More interesting rolling from crazy automatic cross bows of dubious design. Really great combat though and I really got into it.

Though the end boss area of the entire fight was really, really, hard. I did not figure out that it was infinite waves until my second attempt at it...after I turned it onto hard.

Oh yes and the music here was terrific.

 

And finally onto level 5

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OK this was fantastic overall. Again gorgeous gorgeous scenary. Gorgeous, gorgeous music, the re rendition of Guardians of the Past was terrific, a great addition.

I finally found the balance of the shield versus the bows. Especially when there were so many of the cross bow people. I'd put up the shield and then watch the damage roll in on the screen in epic proportions.

I loved the little pan in on the Inquisitor when she realized that there were inside a titan. It hink I got a screen shot of it even. lol. And then the whole business of Lyrium being the things blood...man does that have itneresting implications...though the thing apparently does not mind.

The final boss fight was difficult, died twice...on Casual...the shame of it. But then I traded out Bull for Sera and everyting was ok.

 

So onto the aftermath.  

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OK once more, fantastic music here from Trevor Morris.

But Dwarven magic? OK...this seems to relate to a lot of things. A huge check mark answered on that question. Honestly this answered a lot of questions and continued to expand upon the lore. With the promise of more to come. THe line about the wonders of the Deep Roads *mouth waters*

And then coming back up to the surface, Harding's line of 'she always comes back...pay up.' terrific. Great music. Causing me to tear up greatly there.

 

Final thoughts.  This DLC was amazing.  

 

Again on the negative side overall it felt like Origins at time in the fact that it was a bit too difficult for me.  Still Inquisition's combat mechanics made it more enjoyable then frustrating.  I really got into it and the role play of the events.  Huge revelations and amazing thoughts.  

 

The DLC was written, again very tightly...maybe except for one outstanding issue.  Questions large and small were answered like 'why is this happening?' 'how does the Inquisitor and co not succomb to the Blight', etc.  

 

Top level, I mean I do not know why my mind is blown so much, but it is blown.  It answered questions, dealt with the reasons the Inquisitor was there in the first place, and set up more questions to drive the narrative forward and opened up amazing possibilities if you pay enough attention to the lore.  \

 

Finally, on another note, this DLC felt more like Inquisiting then anything else.  The Inquisitor was actually investigating, and sure all questions may not have been answered but this was a satisfying mystery for the Inquisition to sink its teeth into.  

 

*ahem*  

[Excella Gionne]

Yeah, probably.

 

Cole had some problems too, he would stay in Stealth mode (green ghost) even tho the Stealth skill wasn't active. I had to activate Stealth and then deactivate it to get him back to normal. Happened at least 2-3 times.

Ah, that isn't actually a bug. Working as Intended™ But seriously, it's not a bug. I abuse it so much with my Dwarf Rogue.

[Excella Gionne]

 

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Yeah, I'm really glad that I made dedicated save at the very entrance.

 

Yeah, I too made one right before finale. Kind of a waste of beauty if it's only so brief. 

[Al Foley]

Seriously I thin this DLC is BioWare at their best.  Though again it was a bit frustrating the difficulty curve...for me...but the story content was well worth the hassle.  

[Forsythia77]

 

Confusion grenades help spot spies, and prove the saying that you may kill 2 birds with one stone.

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Tevinter altars look cool from above.

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I did get a good butt shot on one of the stone columns near the fade rift in the ruin, but I'm not digging through all those screens.  Maybe next time.

 

Ugh.  Hakkonite spies are the worst.  If ever someone needed a knife to the kidneys, it's a Hakkonite spy. I hate how they one shot you. They are better at killing my rogue Rafe than my mage Caitlyn.     And Rafe generates guard. 

 

My plans for this weekend include staying inside where it is air conditioned.  Avoiding the tourists who will be around for the air and water show here in Chicago, and finishing up the Deep Roads in DAO.  Hillary is, if you recall, down there with Oghren, Leliana and Shale.  And we are in the Dead Trenches right before the broodmother bit.  Ugh.

[JD Buzz]

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Yes, two Dispel uses pretty much takes away its barrier. At least at nightmare it takes two uses. Don't know about other difficulties.

 

Revival is part of Spirit tree, so every mage can have it.

 

Yeah, Tempest is amazing. I really need to roll one (finally). I've been planning to do so for quite a while

 

Oh, true. I forgot about determination  

 

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Oh yeah, I had revival on Dorian during my Knight Enchanter run. I don't think he used it much. 

 

Go for it! My Tempest Julian started as an archer first, but I respecked him into DW during the last half of the main story. The trainer Khim was right about riding the storm. It's really crazy

 

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Yeah, but... Not everyone will take Templar, while almost everyone will take mage. That's why I'm talking about Dispel all the time  

 

I was laughing so hard yesterday, because I found those old pics I made. Definitely not The Descent spoiler, don't worry

 

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Question, should I wake him up and tell him he's dead?

 

<The most awesome pics. Ever.>

 

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Yeah, Cassie has spell purge. That and two mages with Dispel can swiftly take down a fade rift and enemies who use magic.

 

That's... Emerald Graves? That giant is either asleep or fell to his impending doom...

 

 

The Elusive Nug:

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Nice Video!

 

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I'm thinking of either sending back my Knight Enchanter or start my DW Assassin run into the Deep Roads to find this royal squeaker!

[Magdalena11]

 

 

That could be possible, tho I switched it out for Energy Barrage when it didn't build up so I can't tell   (I could switch it out again, but I kinda like Energy Barrage  maybe I take Flash Fire out  )

 

It's possible.  I got caught in a rip tide as a kid, and the only stroke I knew was the dog paddle, and since the lifeguards hadn't spotted me, I swam back.  Go with the stuff you learn first.

[birefringent]

Ugh.  Hakkonite spies are the worst.  If ever someone needed a knife to the kidneys, it's a Hakkonite spy. I hate how they one shot you. They are better at killing my rogue Rafe than my mage Caitlyn.     And Rafe generates guard. 

Just a few of my thoughts about JoH's difficulty:

 

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JoH difficulty really feels out of whack. My knight enchanter, with Dorian, was using barriers like usual at lvl 24. Didn't have any problems with the dlc enemies. Even took down the group of lvl 30 despair demons. Gurd, what a joke. Hakkon, what a joke.

 

Then did it with my lvl 27 rogue party and the dmg was way way higher. Archers would drop the teams guard in one or two shots, constantly freeze them even with 50% frosty protection. I didn't have any ranged defense and I didn't feel like creating another set of armors for it. The archers took a few shots and everybody would be dead. Champion Hakkonites were only annoying if I got caught in their smash cycle. The regular melee & mage Hakkonites were no problem. Instead of constantly spamming health potions I started dodging all over to get into range and then let my hidden blades take care of everything. I know I could've used stealth but didn't want to, been doing that the whole playthrough just because 

 

Tried to take on the lvl 30 despair demons but their barrier was out of this world strong I just abandoned that idea.

Took a few tries but I did manage to take down four pride demons. That electric damage was also really strong. Dodge, dip, dive and dodge was the best tactic for them too.

 

Gurd was no problem once I realized he kept getting infinite minions I just focused everyone on him and down he went fast.

Hakkon was really easy. Hardly did any damage at all. His melee attacks easily absorbed by everyone's guard and kept the team moving behind him to avoid ice breaths. I actually had to kill him 3 times beacuse the game kept crashing in the final cutscene and then I just skipped it the third time. Don't know why, my mage didn't have that problem.

 

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Both of these teams did it on normal.

lvl 24 KE hardly noticed anything different from the vanilla game.

lvl 27 rogue party felt close to playing a lvl 1 on nightmare.

 

The difficulty scaling feels like someone put random numbers into it. I don't mind the damage output / increased enemy health. But the way the stats seem to work is that they don't really work. Barrier is the new health spam from previous games, and guard is fine for melee but anything with strong armor penetration or magic is just gonna tear through guard insanely fast. And I always feel like the defense stats on my gear doesn't really do anything. A lot of pure armor value will absorb pretty much anything if you get it high enough but all the elemental res and so forth never feel like they actually help at all.

 

I don't know. Maybe it's bugged, or Bioware still can't get their hands around combat systems properly.

 

I haven't played the Descent dlc so I can't compare the two.

[YourFunnyUncle]

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If there're still not the ones you're missing, feel free to tell. I'll check others you might have missed

So...

 

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I found the one I was missing in Ruins of Heidrun Thaig. It was the one with the red circle. I'm still missing one from The Darkspawn Warrens. I can't think where it could be!

 

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Forget it! I'm an idiot! It was a really easy to find one but from so early on that I didn't think to go back that far to check....

 

[Forsythia77]

Just a few of my thoughts about JoH's difficulty:

 

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JoH difficulty really feels out of whack. My knight enchanter, with Dorian, was using barriers like usual at lvl 24. Didn't have any problems with the dlc enemies. Even took down the group of lvl 30 despair demons. Gurd, what a joke. Hakkon, what a joke.

 

Then did it with my lvl 27 rogue party and the dmg was way way higher. Archers would drop the teams guard in one or two shots, constantly freeze them even with 50% frosty protection. I didn't have any ranged defense and I didn't feel like creating another set of armors for it. The archers took a few shots and everybody would be dead. Champion Hakkonites were only annoying if I got caught in their smash cycle. The regular melee & mage Hakkonites were no problem. Instead of constantly spamming health potions I started dodging all over to get into range and then let my hidden blades take care of everything. I know I could've used stealth but didn't want to, been doing that the whole playthrough just because 

 

Tried to take on the lvl 30 despair demons but their barrier was out of this world strong I just abandoned that idea.

Took a few tries but I did manage to take down four pride demons. That electric damage was also really strong. Dodge, dip, dive and dodge was the best tactic for them too.

 

Gurd was no problem once I realized he kept getting infinite minions I just focused everyone on him and down he went fast.

Hakkon was really easy. Hardly did any damage at all. His melee attacks easily absorbed by everyone's guard and kept the team moving behind him to avoid ice breaths. I actually had to kill him 3 times beacuse the game kept crashing in the final cutscene and then I just skipped it the third time. Don't know why, my mage didn't have that problem.

 

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Both of these teams did it on normal.

lvl 24 KE hardly noticed anything different from the vanilla game.

lvl 27 rogue party felt close to playing a lvl 1 on nightmare.

 

The difficulty scaling feels like someone put random numbers into it. I don't mind the damage output / increased enemy health. But the way the stats seem to work is that they don't really work. Barrier is the new health spam from previous games, and guard is fine for melee but anything with strong armor penetration or magic is just gonna tear through guard insanely fast. And I always feel like the defense stats on my gear doesn't really do anything. A lot of pure armor value will absorb pretty much anything if you get it high enough but all the elemental res and so forth never feel like they actually help at all.

 

I don't know. Maybe it's bugged, or Bioware still can't get their hands around combat systems properly.

 

I haven't played the Descent dlc so I can't compare the two.

 

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Caitlyn was my nightmare PT. Rafe is on hard - hard is my default setting for mages or rogues - typically challenging without making me want to punch the baby Jesus. With Caitlyn there was one group of Hakkonites that just about broke me - the ones at the top of the stairs of the outpost temple. But other than that Caitlyn was okay. She is a KE with a storm specialization. The dragon was not difficult - I threw lots of Jars of Bees on those gibbering horrors or whatever they are called.  The Giant.. he was a slog but I beat him in one try (used all my potions but I beat him).

 

With Rafe, he is my DW dual blade Assassin and not only is he getting one shot killed, but they seem to be hitting my mages more often too because of this.  I'm spending more time have Viv run resurgance if she can or having her or Dorian throw health grenades (since neither mage has revive speced). I don't seem to have any issues with the rifts on any difficulty. Hakkonite mages can be problematic when they freeze you but only bad when there are spies in the group to one shot you. Archers usually fall quickly to mark of the rift.  I am running Iron Bull as my tank with Rafe, but I've gotten him to the point where he is not squishy anymore. I have yet to try to Giant on this run.  But we'll see!

[birefringent]

Purple shenanigans

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Valammanananana

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I may have or may have not watched too much of a certain youtube vid.