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[Ashaantha]

So... Descent. *grumblegrumble*

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My reaction to the Guardian was pretty much this:

 

By no means was I expecting it to be easy, but come on, how is that fight fun?

 

Ah well, if at first you don't succeed and all that... right? right?

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I love how every Inquisitor I've seen does that exact same expression then.. it's like "really? really? ugh"

[YourFunnyUncle]

I love how every Inquisitor I've seen does that exact same expression then.. it's like "really? really? ugh"

Hee hee! For me it's more like: "Really? Fine, whatever. Bring it."

 

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[Ashaantha]

Hee hee! For me it's more like: "Really? Fine, whatever. Bring it."

 

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My lady looked oh so bloody pissed off at that moment, I cracked up laughing. She always looks mad at everything though, so it's now part of her personality haha

[Rascoth]

I love how every Inquisitor I've seen does that exact same expression then.. it's like "really? really? ugh"

"Not this sh*t again.*"

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It was even funnier since I played post-game, post-JoH, so she really dealt with a lot.

[YourFunnyUncle]

"Not this sh*t again.*"

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It was even funnier since I played post-game, post-JoH, so she really dealt with a lot.

Yeah Tressa's the same: "Oh right, another huge magical monster, is it? Come on, let's get this over with..."

[Ashaantha]

"Not this sh*t again.*"

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It was even funnier since I played post-game, post-JoH, so she really dealt with a lot.

 

Yeah I did Descent after everything else was done too, my Kyrrah is definitely one Inquisitor who is so over all this crap right now haha.

[SporkFu]

Am I the only one...

Edit; Ah I see Rascoth agrees with me, but I've seen many people agree with Spork. I guess it depends on how you play tactically...

Tactics? I played through the games four times and JoH once without having to worry about tactics before I really wasn't expecting it to be an easy fight.

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Fighting the Sha-Brytol, and hell the Emissary Alpha too, let me know I was in for a tough fight with the Guardian.

For some people it is an easy fight. That's fantastic I don't mind a difficult fight or a challenge. And I don't mind failing either. I just don't see this one being fun. *shrug*
 

I love how every Inquisitor I've seen does that exact same expression then.. it's like "really? really? ugh"

"Not this sh*t again.*"

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It was even funnier since I played post-game, post-JoH, so she really dealt with a lot.

Yeah ... summed it up perfectly.

[Ashaantha]

Tactics? I played through the games four times and JoH once without having to worry about tactics before I really wasn't expecting it to be an easy fight.

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Fighting the Sha-Brytol, and hell the Emissary Alpha too, let me know I was in for a tough fight with the Guardian.

For some people it is an easy fight. That's fantastic I don't mind a difficult fight or a challenge. And I don't mind failing either. I just don't see this one being fun. *shrug*
 
Yeah ... summed it up perfectly.

 

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about 2/10ths of the way through the fight I gave up reviving my stupid party members and solo'd the Guardian, not fun but very easy if you keep moving around to stay out of stuff if you can't faceroll his hp. I had much more fun doing it solo, then with companions haha.

[SporkFu]

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about 2/10ths of the way through the fight I gave up reviving my stupid party members and solo'd the Guardian, not fun but very easy if you keep moving around to stay out of stuff if you can't faceroll his hp. I had much more fun doing it solo, then with companions haha.

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I did consider it. I was actually doing okay at the start. Took out two rock-tentacle things quickly and was working on one crystalthingy when Dorian went down, then Varric right behind him. Any other time in the game, when my companions go out they're out til the end. But it seemed Dorian was actually doing some damage, so I thought I should revive him, and that was pretty much the end of the fight. Dunno if it was bad timing, or bad luck, or bad tactics, heh. But I'll try it again tomorrow.

[YourFunnyUncle]

Tactics? I played through the games four times and JoH once without having to worry about tactics before

 

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about 2/10ths of the way through the fight I gave up reviving my stupid party members and solo'd the Guardian, not fun but very easy if you keep moving around to stay out of stuff if you can't faceroll his hp. I had much more fun doing it solo, then with companions haha.

 

See for me although I obviously love the RP and story aspects of DA, I've also always loved the tactical squad-based pause and play combat. I love pausing, taking control of my companions and having my team co-ordinate for maximum devastation. I use tac-cam a lot in DAI. This is part of why the MP has little appeal to me. It's not how I like to play.

 

One achievement of BioWare's that I think often gets overlooked is that they make games that can be played so many different ways by different people, not just in terms of RP options but also approach to combat.

[Rascoth]

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I did consider it. I was actually doing okay at the start. Took out two rock-tentacle things quickly and was working on one crystalthingy when Dorian went down, then Varric right behind him. Any other time in the game, when my companions go out they're out til the end. But it seemed Dorian was actually doing some damage, so I thought I should revive him, and that was pretty much the end of the fight. Dunno if it was bad timing, or bad luck, or bad tactics, heh. But I'll try it again tomorrow.

Does Dorian have Revival? He can revive himself when he's in that ghost form. Tho he needs proper passive in his Necromancer tree for that to happen.

[Ashaantha]

See for me although I obviously love the RP and story aspects of DA, I've also always loved the tactical squad-based pause and play combat. I love pausing, taking control of my companions and having my team co-ordinate for maximum devastation. This is part of why the MP has little appeal to me. It's not how I like to play.

 

One achievement of BioWare's that I think often gets overlooked is that they make games that can be played so many different ways by different people, not just in terms of RP options but also approach to combat.

 

ahh yeah, I love roleplaying, and story side so much. But dislike having to swap to my companions or pause, I'll hit tactics hotkeys happily, and go to live taccam to move some silly companion out of something ouchy but won't actually control them other then that, it

 

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Breaks my immersion that I am controlling someone other then my own character when I do.

 

But your last sentence is spot on! the different ways for people to do simply combat alone is amazing. I need real-time/live time controlling just one character, others prefer full on tactics and micro-managing, however this ends up with rude people trying to tell others they have to play like they do to complete stuff. Got told by some random that I'd never be able to do nightmare playthrough without micromanaging party members, poor soul, seeing as I managed to finish multiple nightmare playthroughs without swapping characters or entering tac-cam mode, or pausing (other then to take screenshots) for that matter.

 

Sadly that was when the game difficulty glitched if you changed any settings what-so-ever while playing, changing difficulty back to normal even if you never touched that. Stupid achievement is still blank because of it

[Ashaantha]

My nightmare team A : BOOM! Squad

err featuring Cassandra to keep the bad guys in one place.

 

 

fire mage/necromancer Dorian, Varric with elemental mines etc, Knight Enchanter/Lightning mage Kyrrah. All damage, no support (other then my Inky who can toss barrier around if she wants to).

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[Excella Gionne]

Dagon Cadash:

 

What Pride Had Wrought:

 

 

The March To The Arbor Wilds

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Arrival At The Arbor Wilds:

 

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Struggle through the Wilds:

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[YourFunnyUncle]

ahh yeah, I love roleplaying, and story side so much. But dislike having to swap to my companions or pause, I'll hit tactics hotkeys happily, and go to live taccam to move some silly companion out of something ouchy but won't actually control them other then that, it
 
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Breaks my immersion that I am controlling someone other then my own character when I do.

 
For me I just imagine that I'm shouting combat orders to them "Sera! Get on that high ground!" "Cass! Grab the attention of that hurlock!" "Dorian! Static cage on my mark... Mark!"

 

But your last sentence is spot on! the different ways for people to do simply combat alone is amazing. I need real-time/live time controlling just one character, others prefer full on tactics and micro-managing, however this ends up with rude people trying to tell others they have to play like they do to complete stuff. Got told by some random that I'd never be able to do nightmare playthrough without micromanaging party members, poor soul, seeing as I managed to finish multiple nightmare playthroughs without swapping characters or entering tac-cam mode, or pausing (other then to take screenshots) for that matter.
 
Sadly that was when the game difficulty glitched if you changed any settings what-so-ever while playing, changing difficulty back to normal even if you never touched that. Stupid achievement is still blank because of it

 

Anyone who tells you that their way is the only way to play, even on nightmare, hasn't been paying attention. There are several ways to build your characters and strategies that you can adopt to succeed. Whenever anyone asks me for advice, as Spork did a few weeks back here, I always give caveats that this is just what works for me and other options are available.

[SporkFu]

Does Dorian have Revival? He can revive himself when he's in that ghost form. Tho he needs proper passive in his Necromancer tree for that to happen.

Nope. I could respec him though. I always keep a couple spare tactician's amulets nearby I wonder if I should swap out Varric for Sera too, because her tempest talents might do a little more damage.

See for me although I obviously love the RP and story aspects of DA, I've also always loved the tactical squad-based pause and play combat. I love pausing, taking control of my companions and having my team co-ordinate for maximum devastation. I use tac-cam a lot in DAI.

That's cool if that's what you like. Me, I use tac-cam during the tutorial on the way to the Temple of Sacred Ashes and that's it. I prefer leaving my companions to look after themselves, and they survive alright.... most of the time. Worrying about what Quizzy does is good enough for me.

[Ashaantha]

That's cool if that's what you like. Me, I use tac-cam during the tutorial on the way to the Temple of Sacred Ashes and that's it. I prefer leaving my companions to look after themselves, and they survive alright.... most of the time. Worrying about what Quizzy does is good enough for me.

 

This , my companions only completely failed me during the Descent end guy fight, but it was only when I did it the first time, but that will forever stick in my memory haha.

[Rascoth]

See for me although I obviously love the RP and story aspects of DA, I've also always loved the tactical squad-based pause and play combat. I love pausing, taking control of my companions and having my team co-ordinate for maximum devastation. I use tac-cam a lot in DAI. This is part of why the MP has little appeal to me. It's not how I like to play.

 

One achievement of BioWare's that I think often gets overlooked is that they make games that can be played so many different ways by different people, not just in terms of RP options but also approach to combat.

Though I got into DA for a story, I'm huge fan of combat and planning ahead. Actually before I got into RPG games my main focus were strategic games (mostly Heroes of Might and Magic series). Despite that... I dislike tac cam. I find it way more confusing than normal gameplay. I use it rarely. Still, I find DAI (and previous games) combat really entertaining.

 

Anyone who tells you that their way is the only way to play, even on nightmare, hasn't been paying attention. There are several ways to build your characters and strategies that you can adopt to succeed. Whenever anyone asks me for advice, as Spork did a few weeks back here, I always give caveats that this is just what works for me and other options are available.

When someone ask about advice for combat, specialisation or anything like that, I like to tell what I like, what I've heard others like and then add that it's the best to try it yourself and see what they like 

 

Nope. I could respec him though. I always keep a couple spare tactician's amulets nearby I wonder if I should swap out Varric for Sera too, because her tempest talents might do a little more damage.

If you don't want to, you don't need to. I was just passing what I've learned 

 

I have a question. I was taking my dwarf lady thru prologue.

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And this happened. It's not the first time I encountered it, but I wonder if others got it as well. Look at skills.

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[YourFunnyUncle]

That's cool if that's what you like. Me, I use tac-cam during the tutorial on the way to the Temple of Sacred Ashes and that's it. I prefer leaving my companions to look after themselves, and they survive alright.... most of the time. Worrying about what Quizzy does is good enough for me.

There are some who are even more extreme than me. I tend to take closer control and use tac-cam more in tougher fights, but let companions do their thing some of the time, too, whereas some totally disable all the automatic tactics and micro-manage every aspect of every fight. As I say, I think BioWare should be commended for making games where such a variety of approaches are feasible and enjoyable.

[Al Foley]

So... Descent. *grumblegrumble*

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My reaction to the Guardian was pretty much this:

 

By no means was I expecting it to be easy, but come on, how is that fight fun?

 

Ah well, if at first you don't succeed and all that... right? right?

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I was so happy that I got that pic of Kara because watching it I was like 'oh hell yes somebody gonna die today!'  

 

Also that boss fight was suuuuppppeeerrrr easy.  Once you figured it out.  

[JD Buzz]

You're welcome I'm happy you like the book too, I can't remember the last book about mages that was such a good read.

 

Oh me too, that is something I wished would've happened, cause I think Cole would need the reunion with his first friend.

 

 

Edit: Also I started reading The Masked Empire. As much as I hate the Game, Celene plays it well.

 

Oh yeah, it gave more insight about mages, the rite of tranquility and the rebellion. I also find that Evangeline, Cullen, Ser Barris and Lysette are examples of what templars are meant to be. Protecting the people, not being jailers or tormentors.

 

I'm reading Masked Empire too. Celene is ruthless and a master of the Game. 

 

So... Descent. *grumblegrumble*

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My reaction to the Guardian was pretty much this:

 

By no means was I expecting it to be easy, but come on, how is that fight fun?

 

Ah well, if at first you don't succeed and all that... right? right?

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​<Nice screens>

 

Well...

 

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I found the Guardian fight challenging during my first run with Knight Enchanter Alessandra. I had no strategy, so it was pure luck and wits that won the battle. 

 

The second time I played the DLC with my DW Assassin Natalia, I had everyone prepared. The final boss fight was easy and I only used tac cam to quickly move people from its spike attacks.

 

Am I the only one, who thinks the Inquisitor's expression in the cut scene before the Guardian fight shows, "You're going down b!tch!" *draws weapons*

[YourFunnyUncle]

Am I the only one, who thinks the Inquisitor's expression in the cut scene before the Guardian fight shows, "You're going down b!tch!" *draws weapons*

 

No I think there's an element of that. It's just that I feel that there's also an element of "not again!"

[Gilli]

Feathers! 

 

Died feathers (I'm still in chapter 1 )

[themikefest]

Tactics? I played through the games four times and JoH once without having to worry about tactics before I really wasn't expecting it to be an easy fight.

My first playthrough of DAI on nightmare I used the tactical camera a lot. It really helped.  Now I barely use it when playing nightmare mode since its fairly easy. I even found fighting the 4 despair demons in the Jaws dlc very easy especially on nightmare mode. I compare it to ME3. ME3 was very easy on insanity mode

 

As far as the Descent dlc is concerned, I watched a playthrough on youtube and thought it looked very easy. 

[Gilli]

Oh yeah, it gave more insight about mages, the rite of tranquility and the rebellion. I also find that Evangeline, Cullen, Ser Barris and Lysette are examples of what templars are meant to be. Protecting the people, not being jailers or tormentors.

 

I'm reading Masked Empire too. Celene is ruthless and a master of the Game. 

 

Yeah, I really liked that. Especially the look on tranquility from someone who once was a Tranquil.

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Poor Pharamond 

 

I haven't properly met Ser Barries yet (that is what happens, if you side with the Mages in your 2 PTs ) but I agree with you. Also, don't forget Belinda!

 

She's truly a master, she even made Leli angry (yes, yes, I'm still in chapter 1 )