Does the tac cam label Ser Barris as Knight Commander if he's promoted and the Templars are allied with the Inquisition?
I'd like to know this too. His war table missions never pop up for me. EVER. But then again maybe most of my PTs were conscripted. Blargh!
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I agree with this. And my heart too is with Ezio. And Evie. Team Evie for life. But my love for her has a lot to do with my love for all things Victorian. I'd not be opposed to another full scale game with her or Lydia (even though I'm generally not a fan of WWI as a video game backdrop. I feel like it is over used with all those war based FP shooters).
Kiri just finished Trespasser.
The Dragon lives.
Kiri met Solas and had a heart to heart talk with him.
After she was back in the Winter Palace, she disbanded the Inquisition and is now trying secretly with Cass and Leliana to save Solas from himself.
After investigating the servants' quarters and finding dirt on Gaspard, Grand Duchess Florianne offered Freya a dance back in the ballroom. She was reluctant because she would've rather danced with Iron Bull, but the Duchess insisted. She told Freya Gaspard is the traitor, but Freya did not trust her entirely. She had quickly learned to not trust anyone here.
Freya and her companions snuck into the Royal Wing nevertheless and despite a lot of evidence pointing to Gaspard, the Grand Duchess herself turned out to be the assassin. Freya luckily got out of her trap alive and confronted Florianne in the ballroom. Not even her brother bothered to help her after she had framed him.
Freya tried her best to make Briala look good in front of Celene, hoping they could have a second chance, but it did not happen. In light of the evidence against Gaspard Celene wanted to execute him, but Freya convinced her to spare him. Enough blood had been shed.
Freya wanted to enjoy a few calm minutes on the balcony, but Morrigan showed up, who is now an ally of the Inquisition. Then Iron Bull approached her and lifted her mood tremendously, even more so when he actually asked her for that dance. Freya was never better. She felt closer to him than ever before, and she wondered where this would lead them.
Upon returning to Skyhold, Leliana and Cassandra were revealed to be potential candidates for the new Divine, which would of course mean they'd both be absent in the most critical time. To Freya's contentment, Josephine had the final word and told the Revered Mother that they'd be available in time. Freya had hoped she could sneak in a little Bull time before duty, but there was no escaping Josie. She had to judge the Grand Duchess first...
Finally Freya was free for the day and went to see Bull. After some pleasuring activities, she shyly asked him how serious things were between them, but Bull told her it'd be up to her, he'd be fine with light and casual if that's what she wanted. She poked him some more about Qunari customs. Bull had told her in Haven that Qunari don't have sex for love, however he revealed an old tradition - a necklace to show their affection. A dragon's tooth broken into two halves, so that with each wearing one half, they'd be together no matter how far apart they are in life.
Immediately Freya went to Ser Morris so he could make her the necklace. She was excited and really hoped Bull would like it once it was finished.
I'm thinking about making a dwarf archer for a fast PT for The Trial of the Fool.
Do you think I can do Templars to the West and Apostates in Witchwood without overleveling? 
(I just want to be able to recruite Corporal Vale later )
I'm thinking about making a dwarf archer for a fast PT for The Trial of the Fool.
Do you think I can do Templars to the West and Apostates in Witchwood without overleveling?
You should still be able to recruit him without completing those. At least I recall being able to recruit him when I forgot to do them in time.
You should still be able to recruit him without completing those. At least I recall being able to recruit him when I forgot to do them in time.
Ah good 
thanks
(My dwarf has the biggest nose ever, but he's still cute xD)
Did you also disable it in tactics? If a companion has the ability, it's usually keyed into tactics whether it's on their ability bar or not.
That didn't used to be true, glad they finally fixed that.
Wait...what? After the devs have gone on and on about how only the 8 spots on the bar will work and how this is such a great idea, the AI can now CHEAT and use other abilities that I DON"T WANT IT TO USE??! 
You should still be able to recruit him without completing those. At least I recall being able to recruit him when I forgot to do them in time.
I don't think you can. I tried going to talk with him after doing the other stuff but without finishing both mages/Templars in the area and recruitment wasn't possible yet.
Honestly, for Trial of the Fool, I would just pick a character you already finished the game with and replay as quickly as possible to get the achievement. Then start a real game with a new character. I would also recommend Casual difficulty instead of Hard like I did. 
I had to lower the difficulty for IYHSB because I was a dork who didn't give Solas Dispel and all the Venatori had endless barrier.
Adni has now meet Gareth Hawke's Warden Friend Alistair ... and after sqeeing... { OMFGITSALHEISBACKWHOO] she is taking care of some war table missions, giving Hawke and Alistair a chance to scope out the Western Approach's Ritual tower.
also, Maxine Trevelyan has Fallen form the fade in wake of a massive explosion that wiped out the divine's conclave.. ... and she is Pissed.
(About Vale's Irregulars)
I don't think you can. I tried going to talk with him after doing the other stuff but without finishing both mages/Templars in the area and recruitment wasn't possible yet.
Agreed. Gilli-chan, there is a ton of stuff you need to do to get Vale's Irregulars, definitely not what you want to do for Trial of the Fool. Leave him for later. Do the absolute minimum in the Hinterlands. Just clear the Crossroads, do the Templars to the West, then go straight to Val Royeaux. And don't read anything!
Actually, rather than my guesswork, I'd be really interested in hearing from people who have done Trial of the Fools. What did you do, what did you avoid doing? Did you avoid recruiting Sera, since fighting the unbreeched guards earns XP?
I'm back!
I ran into an oops with my TV a long while ago (cleaned my TV but caused a permanant burn spot) but got a new TV and got back into DAI. I made some maaaaaaaad progress today
Actually, rather than my guesswork, I'd be really interested in hearing from people who have done Trial of the Fools. What did you do, what did you avoid doing? Did you avoid recruiting Sera, since fighting the unbreeched guards earns XP?
I did the bare minimum. Only cleared the Crossroads to get to Giselle. Didn't recruit anyone. Did requisitions to get power points to open up VR and Therinfal. Didn't go to Redcliffe at all since you need to close a rift to just get into town. Barely survived Therinfal since I was playing on Hard with Trials and was only level 4 (and a 2H warrior at that). (yes, I'm a masochist.) I didn't open any other zones, just puttered around the Crossroads until I got what I needed.
This is all the area I explored:
Definitely a throw-away game.
Started another playthrough as my canon Inquisitor. Made her eyes a little bit too green. Might delete the character and start over because I want to do all of the Hinterlands before returning to Haven & going to Val Royeaux, so that means I won't be able to visit the Black Emporium for a very long time...
I don't think you can. I tried going to talk with him after doing the other stuff but without finishing both mages/Templars in the area and recruitment wasn't possible yet.
Both mages' and templars' quests complete automatically after reaching Skyhold. So no need for Gilli to do it and risk overleveling. Vale should be available for recruitment either way.
At least that's how I remember it. It's been a while since I didn't complete those myself.
Actually, rather than my guesswork, I'd be really interested in hearing from people who have done Trial of the Fools. What did you do, what did you avoid doing? Did you avoid recruiting Sera, since fighting the unbreeched guards earns XP?
I picked rogue to stealth past almost everything (even durning prologue). No reading, no additional quests except for what was needed to progress. Gained power through requisitions. I picked mages, because I was doing Trial of the Magician.
I was in 3/4 of level 4 when I got to Skyhold.
...
I think...
It's been a while since that pt.
Definitely a throw-away game.
Yeah, I started that pt with this in mind.
I don't think you can. I tried going to talk with him after doing the other stuff but without finishing both mages/Templars in the area and recruitment wasn't possible yet.
Honestly, for Trial of the Fool, I would just pick a character you already finished the game with and replay as quickly as possible to get the achievement. Then start a real game with a new character.
I'm not able to play with a already finished chara, cause I normally only keep the threee most recent save files 
And yes, I play on casual, so weird, after playing for 250 hours on Nightmare 
Agreed. Gilli-chan, there is a ton of stuff you need to do to get Vale's Irregulars, definitely not what you want to do for Trial of the Fool. Leave him for later. Do the absolute minimum in the Hinterlands. Just clear the Crossroads, do the Templars to the West, then go straight to Val Royeaux. And don't read anything!
Actually, rather than my guesswork, I'd be really interested in hearing from people who have done Trial of the Fools. What did you do, what did you avoid doing? Did you avoid recruiting Sera, since fighting the unbreeched guards earns XP?
Yeah, I'm now going after this Walkthrough for Trial of the Fool + Trial of the Lovers, which I got from kaileena_sands.
Without further blabla, meet Bido Cadash, dwarf archer rogue with a very big nose
Wait...what? After the devs have gone on and on about how only the 8 spots on the bar will work and how this is such a great idea, the AI can now CHEAT and use other abilities that I DON"T WANT IT TO USE??!
I don't think you can. I tried going to talk with him after doing the other stuff but without finishing both mages/Templars in the area and recruitment wasn't possible yet.
Honestly, for Trial of the Fool, I would just pick a character you already finished the game with and replay as quickly as possible to get the achievement. Then start a real game with a new character.
The only way you can use abilities not keyed into the quickbar is if you're not controlling the character. In other words, if I have removed fire spells from Inq's quickbar while fighting the Ferelden Frostback, and then switch to another character to consume a fire resistance tonic, the inquisitor may cast immolate while my attention is elsewhere, but I can't have her cast it any other way. Dorian, however, may cast it willy-nilly regardless of what's on his quickbar, as long as he's not the one being controlled.
You guys are aware of the tactics menu, right? If you want the AI never to use an ability (in the quickbar or not) you can disable it there. For example I usually take a two mage party out, so I disabled barrier in my Inquisitor. This is so the AI doesn't auto-cast it with both mages when I run into an encounter with my warrior to draw aggro.
I'd like to know this too. His war table missions never pop up for me. EVER. But then again maybe most of my PTs were conscripted. Blargh!
Neither of my two current Inquisitors are allied with the Templars. I'll have to ally with them with a new one to see if Ser Barris has the Knight Commander tag on the tac cam.
I agree with this. And my heart too is with Ezio. And Evie. Team Evie for life. But my love for her has a lot to do with my love for all things Victorian. I'd not be opposed to another full scale game with her or Lydia (even though I'm generally not a fan of WWI as a video game backdrop. I feel like it is over used with all those war based FP shooters).
Yeah, Evie's awesome. She has the coolest outfits and the shoulder cape is much respect to Ezio.
Both mages' and templars' quests complete automatically after reaching Skyhold. So no need for Gilli to do it and risk overleveling. Vale should be available for recruitment either way.
At least that's how I remember it. It's been a while since I didn't complete those myself.
Do they complete, or just become unavailable? I've never not done them, except in my Trial of the Fool game, and I deleted all those saves once the achievement popped.
I'm not able to play with a already finished chara, cause I normally only keep the threee most recent save files
And yes, I play on casual, so weird, after playing for 250 hours on Nightmare
I'm a compulsive saver. I keep my first saves for all characters in my save folder, move the ones I want to keep to another folder on my C drive, and I also have my first and final saves of each character uploaded online just in case of bad things happening to my hard drive.
The only way you can use abilities not keyed into the quickbar is if you're not controlling the character. In other words, if I have removed fire spells from Inq's quickbar while fighting the Ferelden Frostback, and then switch to another character to consume a fire resistance tonic, the inquisitor may cast immolate while my attention is elsewhere, but I can't have her cast it any other way. Dorian, however, may cast it willy-nilly regardless of what's on his quickbar, as long as he's not the one being controlled.
You guys are aware of the tactics menu, right? If you want the AI never to use an ability (in the quickbar or not) you can disable it there. For example I usually take a two mage party out, so I disabled barrier in my Inquisitor. This is so the AI doesn't auto-cast it with both mages when I run into an encounter with my warrior to draw aggro.
Yes, but here's my beef. We, the player base, were told from Day 1 that 8 slots is the limit. If an ability isn't on the bar, you can't use it, and the dev justification for this was "tactical play" and "Aren't 32 abilities enough?" How tactical is it when the limitation only applies to the player?! I made a deliberate choice to take out Fire Mine and replace it with whatever, and now the AI can just disregard that decision and use it anyway? Ahead of things on the ability bar that I want it to use? And the only way I can have my character be able to use all of his abilities (which should be possible regardless) is to control some other character? This method is even stupider than having the limit be across the board.
Neither of my two current Inquisitors are allied with the Templars. I'll have to ally with them with a new one to see if Ser Barris has the Knight Commander tag on the tac cam.
If I remember, I'll try to load up an Arbor Wilds save and tac cam Ser Barris to see what it says about him. Templars are allies and he was promoted.
Edit: I loaded up my save but I couldn't get any info to show for Barris or any other npc in either mode. 
How did it appear in the pic a ways back? Maybe only during combat?
Modifié par Melbella, 04 mars 2016 - 02:38 .
Sam is still puttering around the Frostback Basin. Haven't really started the main quest yet, other than to visit the island, but that was more to get Aegis of the Rift than to move the plot along. 
Dorian doing his thing. Rage demons still look like krogan to me.
I did the bare minimum. Only cleared the Crossroads to get to Giselle. Didn't recruit anyone. Did requisitions to get power points to open up VR and Therinfal. Didn't go to Redcliffe at all since you need to close a rift to just get into town.
That's a great guide, thanks for posting the link. I learned a thing or two reading through it that will help speed up regular playthroughs.Yeah, I'm now going after this Walkthrough for Trial of the Fool + Trial of the Lovers, which I got from kaileena_sands.
It does beg a question, though. Everyone doing Trial of the Fool has to do Requisitions, lots of them. That seems broken. I mean, needing to do a couple of Requisitions to get the last 1 or 2 power you need is fine, but 7 out of 15? That's just bad achievement design.
I didn't feel like I had to do that many. In fact, I did more than I needed because you get power points while doing the main quests, which I forgot about. I finished barely making level 5 so you could do more actual questing instead to get what you need. Req's are just the easiest/quickest way to go, as long as you get the right ones. I never spent so much time talking to the req officer....usually I run away as fast as possible so she doesn't talk to me at all.
Let's see: Malverde Trevelyan put his advisors to work gathering resources he doesn't have much left to accomplish with. Tal'Ataashi Adaar grabbed the last few landmarks in the Hinterlands and sent a scholar off to hunt what he probably assumes to be an axe. He also started spending shards; he had enough saved up to go right through all the frost doors, and through two of the spirit ones.
And Glyndwyr Lavellan wheedled his at-the-moment-superiors into doing him some favors (one of the big ones was building him some watchtowers near Dennet's farm) before going off to learn that he had been outmaneuvered by Magister Alexius.
All in all a good day's work, I think.
Yes, but here's my beef. We, the player base, were told from Day 1 that 8 slots is the limit. If an ability isn't on the bar, you can't use it, and the dev justification for this was "tactical play" and "Aren't 32 abilities enough?" How tactical is it when the limitation only applies to the player?! I made a deliberate choice to take out Fire Mine and replace it with whatever, and now the AI can just disregard that decision and use it anyway? Ahead of things on the ability bar that I want it to use? And the only way I can have my character be able to use all of his abilities (which should be possible regardless) is to control some other character? This method is even stupider than having the limit be across the board.
Well, yeah. That was clearly a weak excuse for what was essentially making sure the game on PC had the same tactical limitations as on consoles...
Retour en haut
(or crying)
Well, at least I still have his first save file, when I got the achievements, I'll probably replay him properly later. 
