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[PapaCharlie9]

Lastly, not DA related, I pre-ordered Deus Ex Mankind Divided. I loved the first game (Human Revolution), so hopefully the sequel will be good.

Would you believe Human Revolution was the third? Mankind Divided is the fifth. Although both are prequels to the original.

In terms of story, the original Deus Ex usually makes the all-time top ten lists of a lot of reviewers. I've never played it myself. I started with Human Revolution like you and really enjoyed it -- though some of those "oops, alerted the giant mecha, time to ... oops, I'm dead" sequences got kind of old.
 

I'm looking forward to this one too. The original was one of the first games that really sucked me into its story and world, before I played "proper" RPGs. I'd put it with KotOR as one of the games that started my drift away from pure FPSs, and I very much enjoyed Human Revolution, too. I'm waiting to see what the PC specs are...

DA:O is what ruined FPS for me. And I got onto DA:O because I got tired of waiting for the sequel to Drakan:Order of the Flame to come to PC. I mean, it even started with a D and ended with a colon O, so it must be similar, right? Drakan was my gateway drug. It was kind of like an FPS, since you got to fly a dragon around and blow sh*t up, but it was third-person. And fantasy. And kind of had a story. And ended in a ME3 Red-type cliffhanger.

FWIW, the original freeware Doom was what got me on FPS in the first place.
 

OT. I don't know what's with the game devs nowadays but I'm seeing a lot of MOBAs and sparse narrative; Dark Souls III, Battleborn, Arcane Warfare, Doom, Dreadnought, Livelock, Shadow Warrior.

Don't forget Overwatch. Technically not a MOBA, more like a TF2 clone.

You're right, it's like every new game either has to be Dark Souls (no story and git gud) or Destiny (no story and grinding) or Dota 2 (no story and ? arguing over which hero is best?). It's all about multiplayer.

I guess story-driven SP games are just too hard to make. But The Last Of Us came out as a new IP in that environment, so there is still hope.

[Gilli]

I would say no. I brought him once but I didn't really feel like he added much. He does have some comments about spirits, if I recall. I like having Cole for that though, since he is one. Bull also has some good lines but you probably don't need 2 reavers.  However, Solas might be helpful just for crowd-controlling those dang Hakkonites.

 

Okay, thanks

Me too, I mostly ask Cole when the Group is on the Lady's Rest. Bull's "Mayhem" convo with Harding is funny, but no, I don't need two Reavers.

If you mean "Veil Strike" & "Pull of the Abyss" with CC, then Solas won't be really useful, cause he only has Stone Fist and Firestorm  (tho he does have Static Cage) maybe I'll take Sera to the end fight, or maybe Varric.

 

I think if they become too hard to fight, I just disable some Trials.

 

I play on Hard with Even Ground, Walk Softly, Take It Slow and I think Grizzly End enabled, but I could be wrong with the last one, Greed is at Lvl 24 and the others around 23-24. (first time I'm not already max Level when I do JoH, but it's also the first time where I do JoH before WPHW)

[JD Buzz]

Would you believe Human Revolution was the third? Mankind Divided is the fifth. Although both are prequels to the original.In terms of story, the original Deus Ex usually makes the all-time top ten lists of a lot of reviewers. I've never played it myself. I started with Human Revolution like you and really enjoyed it -- though some of those "oops, alerted the giant mecha, time to ... oops, I'm dead" sequences got kind of old.

Yeah, I read that up earlier. I didn't know there were previous Deus Ex games before Human Revolution. Like Uncle, I played stealth and non-lethal. But when it came to boss fights, you couldn't do that. I don't have my Xbox 360 and the game anymore, so I'm thinking of playing a more combative Adam Jensen in the upcoming game.

[Melbella]

Uh oh....I've just been ninja-manced by Leliana!   And she already knows about Daria and Alistair! What the heck, woman?!

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Finally got the go-find-Branka quest. Daria's decided to leave Alistair behind (he doesn't know this yet. I can already hear the hollering ). Just in case she doesn't come back, there needs to be at least one Grey Warden left. (No, she's not taking Leliana either). Her plan is Shale, Wynne, and Sten, though of course Oghren is going to ruin that plan right off the hop.

[NKnight7]

Uh oh....I've just been ninja-manced by Leliana!   And she already knows about Daria and Alistair! What the heck, woman?!

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Finally got the go-find-Branka quest. Daria's decided to leave Alistair behind (he doesn't know this yet. I can already hear the hollering ). Just in case she doesn't come back, there needs to be at least one Grey Warden left. (No, she's not taking Leliana either). Her plan is Shale, Wynne, and Sten, though of course Oghren is going to ruin that plan right off the hop.

 

I remember I got ninja-manced by Leliana in my first playthrough of Origins, and I also remember feeling bad when I had to gently turn her down.

[NKnight7]

I love it when my companions just stand and take the fire breath of a dragon. Poor Varric wouldn't move when the Fereldan Frostback just let loose a stream of pure flame, thankfully he didn't get knocked out from it but he did use at least 2 health potions.

[Melbella]

I know....I miss the days of passive tactics: "If in an area of effect, the character will attempt to leave the area." Yes, common sense for my companions please.

[Exile Isan]

Eleanor and her faithful companions, Cassandra, Sera, and Solas, braved Hafter's Woods. 

[YourFunnyUncle]

Would you believe Human Revolution was the third? Mankind Divided is the fifth. Although both are prequels to the original.

In terms of story, the original Deus Ex usually makes the all-time top ten lists of a lot of reviewers. I've never played it myself. I started with Human Revolution like you and really enjoyed it -- though some of those "oops, alerted the giant mecha, time to ... oops, I'm dead" sequences got kind of old.

 
It was a great story, if a little too caught up in conspiracy theory nonsense for my taste. I really got into the whole dystopian near-future world. And I loved the stealthy non-lethal approach. In fact I loved that even if you used lethal weapons, you couldn't just go in all guns blazing like in a normal FPS. They seem to have toned that down in Mankind Divided, which I think is a mistake, but we'll see.

DA:O is what ruined FPS for me. And I got onto DA:O because I got tired of waiting for the sequel to Drakan:Order of the Flame to come to PC. I mean, it even started with a D and ended with a colon O, so it must be similar, right? Drakan was my gateway drug. It was kind of like an FPS, since you got to fly a dragon around and blow sh*t up, but it was third-person. And fantasy. And kind of had a story. And ended in a ME3 Red-type cliffhanger.

DA:O is what drew me back into gaming after two or three years of concentrating on photography. My mobo died some time in 2006 and instead of building a new gaming rig I threw myself into learning how to use my DSLR. Seeing a colleague enthuse about DAO piqued my interest and I got it for my laptop, but that could barely cope with it, so I built this PC (currently with four times more RAM than it originally had, plus a different CPU and GPU, but amazingly still going.)

FWIW, the original freeware Doom was what got me on FPS in the first place.

 
Oddly not me. I never liked the grungy aesthetic of Doom and Quake. For me it was the Star Wars Dark Forces/Jedi Knight series, and then the original Half-Life. Again games with a bit more heft to their stories and characters. I never liked being some beefcake shooting things seemingly for the heck of it.

[Obsidian Gryphon]

Don't forget Overwatch. Technically not a MOBA, more like a TF2 clone.

You're right, it's like every new game either has to be Dark Souls (no story and git gud) or Destiny (no story and grinding) or Dota 2 (no story and ? arguing over which hero is best?). It's all about multiplayer.

I guess story-driven SP games are just too hard to make. But The Last Of Us came out as a new IP in that environment, so there is still hope.

 

I pretty much started out with FPS and UT'99 was the ultimate moba for me. MP is the money machine now for game companies, especially if they put in micro transactions and ridiculous season passes (SW Battlefront). It's a cash cow they're going to keep at. Easier than making a SP with a good narrative. The most recent SP title, Quantum Break, is horrible which says alot about how much SP creative juices there is out there. I belonged to the PC master race    so console games, I don't bother with.

 

The reason I'm looking into those games right now is that there's pretty much nothing new / innovative and I'm also curious about the current game climate. It's one moba clone after another. It's depressing.

 

Anyway, I just had a great time revisiting those   of ME2. Aethyta clapping her hands to her head (what a moron) when Conrad Verner said that his 'wife' paid the money for his passage to Illium. The volus customer; I want something flashy that says I own you. Biotic God! And oh yes, the krogan poetry. 

[Crowsfeet]

Gwenyn made her first trip to Emprise du Lion. She had just closed the first rift on the frozen river and was casually slaughtering snoufleurs, when a Great Bear showed up...and another...and (sorry, PapaCharlie9)...another...and...SIX spawned in total. No sigils dropped, but still  . I've had three show up before, but never this many.

 

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...and the bears, Harding, you forgot the bears.

 

 

 

 

They thought that was it, so Bull and Dorian started chatting, but hello...

 

 

Oh and here comes another one...

 

 

There were wolves all over the place  as well 

 

 

 

The last one was spotted taking after a nug, so Gwenyn followed it. Here's a video of her chasing a Great Bear, who's chasing a nug, because why not? I also wanted to see how far she would get before the team spawned  .

 

 

[coldwetn0se]

So I do have pic's, but again....not uploaded to the "bane" (i.e. photobucket ....should stop being so lazy, and open an imgur or another photo site account.)

Anyhoo, yesterday I played for an ungodly number of hours (getting over a cold). Ended up getting a number of new-to-me dialogues, this play through. BTW, was playing with my Petra Trevelyan (aka Cate Blanchett).

First, when I did Bull's PQ, and saved the Chargers, I got an option based on the Underworld Perk. In all my countless PT's, I have never gotten this option before. Basically, it was asking Bull if there might be a way to salvage any of his old contacts, through the Ben Hassrath. Does anyone know if this eventually opens up a new WT mission or add other new dialogue, later on in the game???

This was also the first time when judging Ser Ruth, that I could tell her to go out and do the Maker's work. I didn't take that option, mind you, since Petra is starting to question things regarding the Chantry and her faith. She still considers herself Andrastian, but considers things more carefully now. Besides, Adamant had her sending the Wardens away, and she didn't thing a warden who willingly killed other wardens, is best left to the public. Off to the Deep roads, to bolster the ranks of the Legion of the Dead, she goes. *nods*

Since Petra is a mage romancing Cullen, I have gotten the mage related dialogue options. My other Cullenmancer was a Rogue, so these lines are new to me. I find the conversations interesting, and add a layer to the relationship, I find intriguing.

This was also the first time, I ever had this combination of events/dialogues. I took Cole (along with Cass and Solas) to Adamant. As those that have had Cole with them in the Fade know, it is a terrifying experience for him. After HLtA, back at Skyhold and clicking on Cole, it immediately started the 'bind me, Solas!' cutscene. Now at this point, I hadn't yet decided on whether to reinforce Cole's spirit self, or make him more human. I have done both, though I tend to go the spirit route more often. After examining the events I had with Petra in the Fade, I decided that Petra would have interpreted Cole's discomfort with the fact that this was not the home he remembered, nor did he "fit" there, after becoming a spirit in the natural world, and making himself a human body. Petra ended up agreeing with Varric, and making him more human. The conversation she then had with Cole about his experiences at Adamant, ended up cementing her choice, as being the best for him (again, based on her perspective). This may be the first time I had a PC that took him down the "human" path, that felt the most assured. Now, not all my PC's would have had the same perspective, AND as I stated, it was the combination of events that made the decision feel so right for this character. I likes.

Next up is finishing out the Exalted Plains, clearing a couple of the quest paths in the Emerald Graves, then it is off to the ball!

*NOTE*
I am loving the half xp trial on. So much nicer to be at the so-called appropriate level, when doing these different main quests. More often than not, I am waaay over leveled, when doing them. The only complaint I have with this PT so far - which has nothing to do with the trials exactly - is rng on getting FT materials, while exploring, has been dreadful. Oh well. It is, what it is.

[Rascoth]

*pokes her head out of ME2 Insanity pt to answer*

 

Does anyone know if this eventually opens up a new WT mission or add other new dialogue, later on in the game???

No, it doesn't.

 

This was also the first time when judging Ser Ruth, that I could tell her to go out and do the Maker's work. I didn't take that option, mind you, since Petra is starting to question things regarding the Chantry and her faith. She still considers herself Andrastian, but considers things more carefully now. Besides, Adamant had her sending the Wardens away, and she didn't thing a warden who willingly killed other wardens, is best left to the public. Off to the Deep roads, to bolster the ranks of the Legion of the Dead, she goes. *nods*

Do you have Griffon Plate schematic? If not and you still have a save before that judgment, I would consider picking faithful Inquisitor option for this. You can always nug-sync and then reload 

[coldwetn0se]

*pokes her head out of ME2 Insanity pt to answer*
 
No, it doesn't.
 
Do you have all Griffon Plate schematic? If not and you still have a save before that judgment, I would consider picking faithful Inquisitor option for this. You can always nug-sync and then reload 

I do have all the Griffon Plate schematics, due to a mod. . But thanks for the heads up about it. I had forgotten that [i]that[/] was one of the incentives to go that route (on a meta-level, that is ).

Bummer about that perk related dialogue option, going nowhere. Though, I suppose I am not that surprised. *shrug* Tanks for da info!

[Rascoth]

Bummer about that perk related dialogue option, going nowhere. Though, I suppose I am not that surprised. *shrug* Tanks for da info!

Yeah, no additional stuff, but I still like this answer the best. 

 

Speaking of perks and interesting dialogue. Ever got Arcane Knowledge before speaking with Minaeve for the first time at Haven? There's new dialogue with that (and thanks to almighty Golden Nug you don't really need to work for that one perk).

[coldwetn0se]

Yeah, no additional stuff, but I still like this answer the best. 
 
Speaking of perks and interesting dialogue. Ever got Arcane Knowledge before speaking with Minaeve for the first time at Haven? There's new dialogue with that (and thanks to almighty Golden Nug you don't really need to work for that one perk).

Agreed. I still really like I got the dialogue option. It does make me wonder why it never popped up before. I have picked a number of different dialogue options through the multitude of play throughs, yet for whatever reason, I guess I hit the right combination, just this once...?!? I swear I am not complaining though. It's great when I still get new content even after so many PT's.

Hrmmmm...as for Minaeve, I want to say I have had the Arcane Knowledge Perk, before speaking to her, but it may have been long enough ago, that I don't remember what she says. Care to share?

[Rascoth]

Hrmmmm...as for Minaeve, I want to say I have had the Arcane Knowledge Perk, before speaking to her, but it may have been long enough ago, that I don't remember what she says. Care to share?

Hah, if only I remembered it well  But there was part about Quizzy recognizing Minaeve's Dalish accent 

[KotorEffect3]

If you want to count the mobile game I did a bit of that today.

[Sifr]

Enjoying a bit of Origins with Natia Brosca. Although I imagine she's having less fun than I am, if her diary is any indication;

 

"First, Daveth and Ser Jory died.

 

Then everyone (including the backup) in the Tower of Ishal died. Cailan and Duncan died in the battle as well. The Grey Wardens and most of the Fereldan army? Forget it, stone-dead. Now it's up to Alistair and me (who nearly died) to stop the Blight... or everyone else will die.

 

As far as life on the surface and first days on the job go... results have been slightly mixed."

[Qun00]

I just started a new game with a world state where Hawke is a mage, and when I asked Varric about Hawke's friends, he mentioned a living Bethany instead of Carver.

What the hell? Is that a common glitch?

[PapaCharlie9]

Gwenyn made her first trip to Emprise du Lion. She had just closed the first rift on the frozen river and was casually slaughtering snoufleurs, when a Great Bear showed up...and another...and (sorry, PapaCharlie9)...another...and...SIX spawned in total. No sigils dropped, but still  . I've had three show up before, but never this many.

Nice! The RNG is perverse. Whatever it is you want, only some other player will get it.

[Gilli]

Neglected Greed for MP again  but today was really cool 
 

Wanted to do a solo with my Lvl 4 AW, but well, I think Lvl 7 counts as low level too.

 

 

Also a PUG story, which got a little long.   

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Went a little Peri pugging, ended in a nice Lobby with a SS (Lvl 20) and another mage, who then switched to Templar (Lvl 14), when they saw my AW (Lvl 11).
 
We went in and Vints~
Mid-game a Necro joins.
It goes pretty well, till Zone 5, where the Templar and I (who were fighting Calpi) have to rezz the Necro and SS, both laying far away from us. (it was Orlais, the map with the two big green flowerbeds)
After rezzing them it didn't take us long to kill Calpi and her group.
 
Next the Templar switches to Reaver and we get RTs.
We don't really have problems till Zone 5 again, where everyone, besides me, goes down at least once against Samson.
 
When we're done the Necro leaves the Lobby. The Host switches from Reaver to Saarebas aaand switches to FC/Nightmare/Frost.
 
So now it's: Saarebas (Lvl 18) SS (Lvl 20) and my AW (Lvl 17) vs. RTs.
We clear Zone 1 and just when we open the door to the Font a Reaver joins.
 
Zone 2 is fun, RTs should stay away from ladders when there a four people waiting underneath 
 
Zone 3 is....uuh...uhm.... the Reaver goes down, twice, before we even reach the bridge. (DR to death?) Also, someone thought it was a good idea to open the treasure doors in the middle of the fight  3 more RT Horrors, or were they Knights? I only got aware of them, after I saw a Red Skull below me, telling me the SS went down.
Okay, so down the ladder I go, while the Saarebas is busy keeping us barriered.
Soon the Reaver bleeds out outside of the tower to the treasure rooms. I'm not entirely sure what the SS did in that time, but the Saarebas and I got company by hordes of RT Knights, there was no end to them.
Somehow we make it over the bridge to the place with the Gong and the Saarebas calls the Dragon while there are still some RTs left, but not for long.
 
Zone 4 we make it to the Room of Shame and stay there, but not because we don't want to rush in, but because we need to get the supplies, which are on top of the last flight of stairs.
The Saarebas stands behind the wall, barriering us and casting Rings to make us faster/stronger, while my AW shots Stone Fists and CLs Knights from afar.
The SS and the Reaver wait till some Horrors decide that we're annoying enough to come to us.
Soon the Reaver dies again.... 
I try to stay at the entrance of the room, but the SS decides to charge at some RTs and goes down... Against my better judgement I drink a Stone Armor potion and go and rezz her.
Somehow some RTs got into the Tower and attack our Saarebas, because suddenly my guard is down and I'm in the reds... Next moment, I'm on my knees.   (it doesn't help that Horror's are immune to Lightning and nearly all Knights are dead, so I couldn't even barrier myself properly.)
I. Hate. Archers!
The Saarebas rezzes me when I'm back in the room. We fight some more and the SS goes down again, because our Saarebas gets bothered again. After rezzing her and killing some archers I go down again too. Crawling back to the room, I get rezzed by the SS before I'm inside.
We slowly whittle down their numbers and when only 3-4 RTs are left we dash up the stairs.
The SS keeps the Horrors busy, while I get the supplies and the Saarebas barriers us and casts the fire ring around me.
The Zone clear, we open the treasure room.
Hello Revenant~  <-- that guy was a piece of cake versus the RTs before.
 
Zone 5 Hello Frosty~ 
That fight was really easy after those four Zones before. I think I got most of her babies. 
Of course Frosty gave us no card at the end of the fight, but it was fun.

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[Melbella]

Time for some screenshot catch-up....
I hate, hate, hate this quest but I can't not do it. I've even tried avoiding her until ending the curse, but she's nowhere to be found afterwards. Poor Athras.  To make matters worse, you can only talk down the assassins in DA2 with a diplomatic personality, but I tend to favor sarcastic Hawke....

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Had Mark of Death on Zathrian still active during the cutscene.

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Cailan's funeral

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Zevran wasn't too thrilled with the temple guardian.

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All hail the risen Andraste, slayer of Warden and friends

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I finally "got gud" after tweaking my party for the umpteenth time!

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Herren after Wade makes 3 sets of armor at no charge

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Archie dream

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Archie reality

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Next up is The Dead Trenches

[NKnight7]

I know they're virtual and not real but seriously the giant spiders can still make me jump a little. I was in that cave in like the very corner of the Storm Coast and just running along and then a giant spider just comes out of nowhere and runs up to my quizzy. Made me jump and go "die spider die!" for a few moments.

[Melbella]

I know they're virtual and not real but seriously the giant spiders can still make me jump a little. I was in that cave in like the very corner of the Storm Coast and just running along and then a giant spider just comes out of nowhere and runs up to my quizzy. Made me jump and go "die spider die!" for a few moments.

The one that always scares the crap out of me, even though I know it's coming, is the first extra big giant spider you come across in the Deep Roads Expedition in DA2.

I just finished up Ortan Thaig in DAO, where you fight the horde of spiders led by the disappearing Spider Queen. I hate the rattle noises that they make ::shudder:: Not to mention all the other weird noises coming from the Deep Roads.  I'll be running along and suddenly out of nowhere hear a "thunk" and wonder what the heck was that?! No enemies anywhere....just a random noise in the dark.