The fix is not retroactive.Wait, I was under the impression the voice bug had been fixed in Patch 2. It's still there?
The fix is not retroactive.
If your voice had already been changed, the effect is permanent (apparently there's no way to tell if customizing Hawke's face caused it to change, and they can't just go switching it for everybody).
This is actually something of a godsend - the fact that some people's voices have been changed permanently means that evidently, they're gonna just open the Character Creator up to us soon, instead of making us wait forever for a mirror DLC.
I hope it'll fix the borked NPCs too. I miss Harding's freckles!
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"Not a hotfix, unfortunately."
So, DLC? Paid DLC or free DLC?
"Not a hotfix, unfortunately."
So, DLC? Paid DLC or free DLC?
It sounds like it's going to be part of a regular free patch, because he said it was going to be the solution to the voice change bug. (Not all patches are hotfixes; a hotfix usually implies they're doing extra work out of schedule to address an unforeseen problem).
It should be part of the game by default, but because they know it's wanted by many, they will make money out of it I bet.
But it has my vote +1
It sounds like it's going to be part of a regular free patch, because he said it was going to be the solution to the voice change bug. (Not all patches are hotfixes; a hotfix usually implies they're doing extra work out of schedule to address an unforeseen problem).
My only concern with this is the voice change bug is fixed. However, if your voice changed prior to the fix, it's permanent. I would be surprised if their solution is "deal with it, but you won't have to worry about your next playthrough."
Be great if I am wrong, but part of me is expecting it will be a paid DLC.
I'm assuming this face problem is PC only because none of my characters or NPCs changed on the PS4.
Wait, I was under the impression the voice bug had been fixed in Patch 2. It's still there?
yes.... apparently
My only concern with this is the voice change bug is fixed. However, if your voice changed prior to the fix, it's permanent. I would be surprised if their solution is "deal with it, but you won't have to worry about your next playthrough."
Be great if I am wrong, but part of me is expecting it will be a paid DLC.
If your voice changed prior to the fix, it's permanent, and the tweet basically said they'll give us a chance to reenter the character creator in Skyhold in order to fix it (the voice being an option in the creator).
I doubt they'd seriously tell the people whose voices changed "too bad" - it'll likely (hopefully?) be a patch.
Just adding a 'me too'. I actually restarted the game because in the lighting in the character editor, I made a blush that I thought was a nice brownish shade - pale brown, just a bit of cheekbone shading. In the daylight in Haven, it was Fake Tan Orange. Arrrgh.
The fix is not retroactive.
If your voice had already been changed, the effect is permanent (apparently there's no way to tell if customizing Hawke's face caused it to change, and they can't just go switching it for everybody).
So that means that if I have a save from before meeting Hawke, the fix will apply to me and the voice will not change after customization. Yes?
@BioMarkDarrah: black emporium style face changer was not a planned launch feature. Nor is it in most games
Well, it should be. I mean, how many games has BioWare (and other developers) released where the players wanted access to the character creator after getting into the game proper? How many forum posts, petitions, and blog articles will it take before someone on some dev team finally realizes this needs to be a planned launch feature?
You know players are going to restart the game over and over until they make a character they're happy with. Is that the experience you want them to have? Of course it isn't, so make the change. Make it a launch feature.
And "Nor is it in most games" is a maddening response. What "most games" do is irrelevant, and just because that's what "most games" do doesn't make it right. It's like people just keep doing it because that's the way it's always been. It's attitudes like that that make me want to slap people upside the head. Snap out of it!
So that means that if I have a save from before meeting Hawke, the fix will apply to me and the voice will not change after customization. Yes?
I'm pretty certain, yes.
Well, it should be. I mean, how many games has BioWare (and other developers) released where the players wanted access to the character creator after getting into the game proper? How many forum posts, petitions, and blog articles will it take before someone on some dev team finally realizes this needs to be a planned launch feature?
You know players are going to restart the game over and over until they make a character they're happy with. Is that the experience you want them to have? Of course it isn't, so make the change. Make it a launch feature.
And "Nor is it in most games" is a maddening response. What "most games" do is irrelevant, and just because that's what "most games" do doesn't make it right. It's like people just keep doing it because that's the way it's always been. It's attitudes like that that make me want to slap people upside the head. Snap out of it!
The thing about "most games" is that they're not Dragon Age. I don't need to edit Mario or Luigi's face at the beginning and I don't expect to be able to do so in the middle. This is an RPG with a Character Creator that you can fine tune, and with a main character whose face you have to stare at all day. Saying that a midgame face editor isn't a launch feature in most games is like not bringing gloves to a boxing match and saying "Gloves aren't a feature of most sports". SURE, but they are in boxing!
Really, though, when he says it wasn't a launch feature, I think the implication is that it was intended to be part of a DLC package. That's probably why they told us the lighting in the character creator reflects the lighting you'll see through the game - they figured that as long as they could make us shut up about the Mirror until launch, they'd be able to charge for it no matter how much we groaned and moaned.
That one is such an obvious and terrible lie that it makes me angry just thinking about it - first of all, the lighting in the game is different in different places and environments! It's physically impossible to make a light setting that reflects what you'll see in the game and I have to imagine if they're smart enough to program a computer game they'd be smart enough to figure that out. A toddler could come to that conclusion. "Daddy, how can the Character Creator be like the light in a dark dungeon AND the light in a sunny field? Isn't that black magic?"
"No, son, that's called lying about what's included in the product so you can charge more for accessories later."
In "most games" there is at least a workaround to alter your appearance. I know I have been quite vocal about this already but lack of moddability, proper console commands or at least a face sculptor/mirror is ridiculous considering how much Skyrim is in Inquisition.
Additionally, if this game was more mod-friendly, or had a usefull console, there would be less nagging and complaining on the forums about cosmetical issues, at least from the PC crowd.
I'm assuming this face problem is PC only because none of my characters or NPCs changed on the PS4.
Definitely agree especially because the lighting when you make your character is a bit funky. My character's eye and hair colour did not turn out quite how I expected afterwards because it was being discoloured by the Breach's green tint, we need neutral lighting to design our character under really.
I think we should be able to change character appearance after the start any where, I mean I am sure many of you have made a character that you thought was like totally pretty, or handsome, and then entered the game and suddenly realized they looked like crap-Ola.
Then restarted to fix that about a dozen times, and stil latter on realized you still did not have it right. I mean They know this, why don't they put it in the game. This is not the only one that does it other games do it too.
But it is bothersome to always find out there will be a DLC soon that fixes something that should have been there at the beginning, and the addional Programing for it, as it was just a routine function call, would cost next to Nothing to do.
I mean how you look will have no bearing on the Game play in any way as long as you don't allow gender change. It just seems so cruel of them, and reduces the fun for me, and I am sure many others.
The note from Scylla makes it sound like they want to add new content in patches instead of only with DLC (though there will still be paid DLC of course).So, DLC? Paid DLC or free DLC?
That's correct.So that means that if I have a save from before meeting Hawke, the fix will apply to me and the voice will not change after customization. Yes?
https://twitter.com/...513769503412225may be of interest
Thank you. It is awesome to finally get some input back from you guys to find out whats going on. Maybe I am just looking at all the wrong post but I look for Bioware Only Post and rarely ever see anything about the progress you guys are trying to make.
Thank you again for this bit of information. Really appreciate it.
As Much as it sucks to lose 280 hours of save files from them getting Corrupted, it gives me a Good excuse to start a new character and play Nightmare again to 100% completion.
All in all Amazing game, can't wait for more DLC for Qunari and Dwarf Specifically.
I don't know where Bioware gets this faith that their customers can make a perfect face in one go at the CC. Bethesda included the plastic surgeon in FO3 cause they know us better.
I totally support this suggestion.
In Skyrim we could edit the chars face at any time through a simple console command. I don't see why this shouldn't be possible in DAI.
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Neat. My character will be able to go through puberty during the game.
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