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[thesuperdarkone2]

I'd be interested to see the Warden's statue.

[TEWR]

If Bhelen's king, he basically keeps the status quo while doing very little to improve the lot of the Dwarves. This was the case as far back in DAO, but it's built upon further in DAI. For instance, the Dwarves are in an eternal war against the Darkspawn. Eithnar Bemot declared that in such times, the king has full authority over the army (which is mainly Warrior Caste, but if you're opening it up to the casteless as well there's that).

 

Bhelen is unable to garner such a thing 12 years into his reign and still has to deal with the Assembly. Even during DAO he didn't suspend the Assembly temporarily using Eithnar's decree as a basis and how the Blight demands their full attention. Of course, some nobles would see through this and understand his ulterior motives but the point remains. House Klaret refused to send their men out of fear of House Rumald taking advantage of their weakened state due to a feud between them.

 

More then that House Dace and House Helmi still have their personal forces and are using them for their own reasons, rather then for Orzammar's reasons. House Helmi wished to explore Amgarrak but House Dace's men kept people out of there, to say nothing of the House Helmi venture into Kal-Hirol -- which if that was the sole thing I could rationalize as Bhelen appointing Helmi people to oversee the expedition, as the Helmi-Aeducan alliance needs to be kept strong.

 

Harrowmont ends up bringing the Dwarves to a point of stagnation worse then they were already in, not that I've ever once given him the crown. I knew he was a poor ruler but I didn't think his incompetence would be Flanderized so that Bioware could kiss Bhelen's ass even more.

[SofaJockey]

The Orzammar dwarves are already fearful of falling into the sky,

I don't see how a breach would make it any more scary...

[Navasha]

Orzammar is pretty much done either way.   Harrowmont is pretty short-sighted and inflexible to be a good leader, and Bhelen was an immoral schemer who cared more about his own power than Orzammar.    Orzammar is going to fade away under either of their leadership.

 

Personally, I would prefer a trip or DLC surrounding Kal Sharok, to see how they have survived.

[Elfyoth]

There's also one to work with Kal Sharok. Also, there are ambassadors from Orzammar at the Winter Palace, they talk about some of the things happening in the city.

No you are incorrect, there is one that you ally with Orzammars ruler, Bhelen or Harrowmant and Kal Sharok

[Elfyoth]

I'm pretty sure they showed a dwarven city in one of the trailers. I guess that's on the cutting room floor.

You mean this trailer? 

 

https://youtu.be/fzuR1Fn_b48

[xPez]

I really hope we go back to the Deep Roads and Dwarven Thaigs, they're probably my favourite part of DA.

 

I think it's safe to say that we'll be heading to Kal Sharok sometime soon. They wouldn't go to the trouble of giving so much detail and mystery about it if they didn't plan on using it.

[Augustei]

You mean this trailer? 

 

https://youtu.be/fzuR1Fn_b48

They used to burn people at the stake for Necromancy y'know.....

[SofaJockey]

I'm pretty sure they showed a dwarven city in one of the trailers. I guess that's on the cutting room floor.

 

I'm fairly confident that the dwarven city shown in the early trailer is Valammar, in the Hinterlands.

 

 

Valammar has a waterfall that the trailer footage didn't (and the stonework on the bridge is remodelled) but the map structure is the same. Can't achieve the same camera position so hard to line up exactly...

[Dieb]

Yeah, the DAO decision between Harrowmont and Behlen was always a troll for me.

 

The thing is, Behlen is presented as such a ruthless, egotistical, powerhungry bastard who murdered his own brother; it doesn't make sense for a "good" Warden to even consider helping him. The fact that his anti-traditional opportunism apparently just so happens to be what the dwarven people need to survive in the long run (his general mannerisms and attitude clearly tell me he's NOT doing what he does because he's aware of the fact), cannot be forseen clearly enough to justify me ever not helping Harrowmont.

 

It's just foresight and knowledge I can't really picture my Warden to be smart enough to have, in order to have him go "But I'm doing this for the greater good in the end".

 

 

OT: In the Kotaku Q&A, someone asked whether we're ever going to see the Deep Roads properly again, and Either Mark Darrah or Mike Laidlaw just cryptically wrote "It's funny you should say that..."

[turuzzusapatuttu]

Yeah, the DAO decision between Harrowmont and Behlen was always a troll for me.

 

Not exactly. According to the devs, the epilogue slides from Origins were just rumors, so choosing Harrowmont as king doesn't necessarily mean he will be a conservative ruler (thus isolating Orzammar from the surface).

[zambingo]

Orzammar's situation needs Doctor Sam Beckett to quantum leap into it. Maybe Dagna can figure out how to do this after reading Dorian's notes on time magic. ;-)

[Archdemon_Urthemiel]

Not exactly. According to the devs, the epilogue slides from Origins were just rumors, so choosing Harrowmont as king doesn't necessarily mean he will be a conservative ruler (thus isolating Orzammar from the surface).

The comments from the winter palace kind of confirm that harrowmont is a conservative failure