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Hey guys, since this is the No-Spoiler section, could you please start tagging spoilers with things like the name of the Big Bad? Some folks might be in this section that haven't gotten to the end of the Haven segment and I'd rather not have them get spoiled accidentally.
Huh? This is the "Scuttlebutt (Spoilers)" Section. If you can't post spoilers here, where can you?
I didn't venture near the BSN, never mind the spoiler section, until I finished the game.
You ARE in spoiler zone...
Huh? This is the "Scuttlebutt (Spoilers)" Section. If you can't post spoilers here, where can you?
I didn't venture near the BSN, never mind the spoiler section, until I finished the game.
If you guys would read a bit further you'd know that the thread was moved. Originally it was in the No-Spoiler section.
There are several interesting female villains in the game. I'm good. I'd probably be good with the Warden-Commander alone.
You mean the 0 motivation girl? Yeah fantastic villain...
wasn't she gaspards younger sister? Meaning she had just a tiny bit less right to call for the throne than him, and if she killed Celene and gaspard she'd get it? I'd say that's reason enough. Unless we're dealing with half siblings that i must've missed.
Sooo.
Is BioWare sexist for not making more female bad guys or are they sexist for even including one female bad guy ? Also is saying female bad guy - would that mean we are misogynistic ?
Im half ready for Anita to jump out of some dark hole in the univiers to scream at me how misogynistic i em.
Sorry SJW's are making me question my existence.
Last bit is perfectly reasonable. Gaming has always been inclusive, but when people put their gender or sexuality in such importance that it no longer is just their state of being, instead a personality trait, we get what SJW want. Borderlands does this to an extreme effect, bioware kinda did this with dorian's companion mission with it being exactly like a after-school special cliche. I mean, it was like watching Degrassi, and don't get me started on how they put emotion in the qun by inventing a word for Krem, a good character regardless, but i'm getting off topic horribly and want no further discussion beyond that, only to reassure you it's fine to have this mindset.
Back to the original topic, yes. It seems like most if not all the female villains had a way to talk them down or not fight them, meanwhile all the male villains have to be fought and/or killed. That, and most previous men of power have gone utterly mad. The Lord Seeker, Samson as perfect examples of this that I saw my first playthrough. (I haven't started my second and wish say things i've seen for myself, not just in videos.) while the warden commander was mislead, the duchess can be arrested without a fight, and calpernia can be reasoned with if you show her evidence of cory's plan to betray her.
If it makes any difference, the Duchess was a pretty decent villain, and has the best post-mission content judging her corpse in a box.
wasn't she gaspards younger sister? Meaning she had just a tiny bit less right to call for the throne than him, and if she killed Celene and gaspard she'd get it? I'd say that's reason enough. Unless we're dealing with half siblings that i must've missed.
That's even worse than no motivation. Being Cory's ****** and destroying the world for a ****** throne?
.... dont tell "austrailia" they might remove DA:Inquisition from Target sales floor.
no female villans .... LOL OH NOES!
You'd think a country where everything is venomous would be less sensitive to that sort of thing.
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Lol, how do companions react to this?
That's even worse than no motivation. Being Cory's ****** and destroying the world for a ****** throne?
It's a reason for hating her, but it's better than no reason. and i'm sure cory never said he wanted to destroy the world, only become a god. You only stop him because he originally attack you and the chantry, then to protect the world from supposed dangers. We don't even know what would happen if he did reach the city, possibly nothing might happen. Or maybe a fade dragon swoops in all bad like, cause swooping is bad, and bites off his head and flies off like nothing.
"Are all of the characters in this game women?! Political correctness is ruining my videogames"- An actual, completely unsatirical, YouTube Comment.
I mean, I like a good female villain as much as the next person. But damn, we really need to stop worrying about this kind of stuff.
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I could never do that, Dragons dogma destroyed jesters for me.
"Are all of the characters in this game women?! Political correctness is ruining my videogames"- An actual, completely unsatirical, YouTube Comment.
I mean, I like a good female villain as much as the next person. But damn, we really need to stop worrying about this kind of stuff.
Normally, I'd agree with you, but with everything in the gaming world going on recently, I'd rather look things carefully first.
I could never do that, Dragons dogma destroyed jesters for me.
He was like a creepier Danny DeVito.
Lol, how do companions react to this?
I believe most approved and a couple slightly disapproved. No one said anything in dialogue about the decision I made
Urthemiel is male actually.
High Dragons are females but the Old Gods/Archdemons are male.
Wait, why does the lore on storm cost hints Urthemiel is female?
Huh? This is the "Scuttlebutt (Spoilers)" Section. If you can't post spoilers here, where can you?
I didn't venture near the BSN, never mind the spoiler section, until I finished the game.
I can go back and remove my post now; this thread originated in the Non-spoiler section until it was brought to attention.
There did seem to be less female mooks than in the last two games but more female friendly soldiers. Although I think some of the rogue templars and mages were female and I guess you could say that some of the fully armored Templars could also be female. Still most feminists I can remember speeking to on the matter (if they care at all) seemed to want more female mooks not less.
I know some of femfreq's arguments sort of imply that she wants female characters to be unkillable (unless they have a developed personality and back story) but as I said I don't know of many feminists who hold that view.
He was like a creepier Danny DeVito.
I know right! I was afraid she'd merge into that jester. Imagine her with stubble, really short and in that outfit cause thats what I did when that option came up in game. NNOOOPE!
Edit: Heres a video for those of you who haven't seen the jester from dragons dogma enjoy.
My post has been edited as well.
Wait, why does the lore on storm cost hints Urthemiel is female?
It does? I'm going to have to go through my codex a little later.
Just to clarify, I don't agree with the youtube comment I quoted. I do, however, feel the sheer amount of female protagonists who also have incredible amounts of importance to the overall state of Thedas (including the Inquisitor, if you so choose) means that a female villain would be a little redundant and would hate to see the youtube comments then.
And Meredith was the only antagonist I actually disliked out of the three so far. Don't like Templars in general, and she took Red Lyrium and made it her thing. Ew. (Coryphefish is just there. At this point in the game I could just crush him if I wanted)
TotalBiscuit explains this problem of mainstream media right here.
http://youtu.be/rze-TEJJpYs?t=6m57s
Why, exactly? "Worrying" about representation and portrayal isn't particularly hard or taxing. Why do we "really need to" go back to the bad old days?I mean, I like a good female villain as much as the next person. But damn, we really need to stop worrying about this kind of stuff.
It's a reason for hating her, but it's better than no reason. and i'm sure cory never said he wanted to destroy the world, only become a god. You only stop him because he originally attack you and the chantry, then to protect the world from supposed dangers. We don't even know what would happen if he did reach the city, possibly nothing might happen. Or maybe a fade dragon swoops in all bad like, cause swooping is bad, and bites off his head and flies off like nothing.
Actually we do know what happens, side with the mages once to find out 
presumably half of the animals we fight are female, most of the front line troops we fight are Tevinters and they seem to be more patriarchal than the rest of Thedas. Plus all the High Dragons, Calpernia, and Duchess Florianne, in addition to a large amount of rogues for several factions
TotalBiscuit explains this problem of mainstream media right here.
When you just make crap up, like the claim about the media portraying women as protected and males as expendable, then it's easy to "explain" damn near anything.
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