Because it is better storywise, and companion wise. If even IGN says the story is average,than it has to be really average. I felt more engaged in the first hour of DA2, than in 60 hours of inquisition..I will never understand why some people prefer DA2 over DA:I.
But its their opinion.
People just start praising things years later from release. At release DA2 was universally panned around here with some people enjoying characters and combat but mostly everyone hated it. They take that feedback and design a much bigger game in scope with beautiful lands and lots to explore and now people are like "They should make a linear game like DA2". People just don't know what they want and when something is new it's kind of cool to join in with the bitching about it. I'm sure in a couple of years people will be comparing the newest games to DAI and outright praising it. DA2 is a heavily flawed game that did decent character development. The combat was more dynamic than Origins but suffered endless spawns of enemies that appear from nowhere and a really poor tactical camera that was tacked on to shut up PC users.
Is it wrong? You rate thing in perspective. When compared to Origins DA2 was a let down despite being a good game. Good as in funny, enjoyable, not as in majestic. DAI was a let down compared DAO, DA2 and developers promises, despite being a much better game than his predecessors. So yeah, it is possible that a future game will make people love Inquisition, it can always be worse.
In fact the next game will have LOTS of haters, not because people hate everything but because Bioware created at least 7 different fan bases:
1 - Fans of DAO
2 - Fans of DA2
3 - Fans of DAI
4 - Fans of DAO/2
5 - Fans of DAO/I
6 - Fans of DA2/I
7 - Fans of DAO/2/I
So, the chances of letting down one of these fan bases is close to 100%. Letting down 4 is very high. If they do the right-wrong job they can even get the 7 fan bases to hate them... LOL... even so, since they are a company as long as they have a big enough 8th fan base created they are ok and can keep up with the franchise. I think we shouldn't oversimplify analyzes, it is important to know that people play for different reasons and one change can make a beloved game become a hated one, it doesnt even need to be a next installment, a DLC, or even a patch can do that...
I love the crafting system in DAI, let's suppose I play the game for this sole reason (it is not)... if they change or remove it in the next game I could be disappointed to the point I don't want to play the game anymore. If exploration is my drug unless they make the next game as big as Inquisition (or bigger) I wil be frustrated. So that's how it works. I don't blame anyone, reason for liking and disliking a game are very personal and sometimes very specific and I think it is easy for people who just "sit there and play the game" to judge those who have different levels of involvement and different focus and approaches on the game.
The game is what it is and people will love or hate it and that's ok, everything in between is ok too. And Bioware will take a stance on how to deal with their fans and that's it.
Because it is better storywise, and companion wise. If even IGN says the story is average,than it has to be really average. I felt more engaged in the first hour of DA2, than in 60 hours of inquisition..
IMO DAI should be called...Dragon Age: super grindy , unplayable, console breaking, and waste of time bugfest.
And I should care about IGN's opinion because......?
I must say, I really love Inquisition, and I did enjoy DA 2. I haven't really hated any Bioware game really, there is always something that I enjoy; ofcourse, I have my favourites. I myself have found Inquisition far more enjoyable than a lot of RPG's, including DA2, and maybe even Origins.
Because it is better storywise, and companion wise. If even IGN says the story is average,than it has to be really average. I felt more engaged in the first hour of DA2, than in 60 hours of inquisition..
IMO DAI should be called...Dragon Age: super grindy , unplayable, console breaking, and waste of time bugfest.
I play it on PS4, and everything works fine for me.
As for average story, I don't think we played the same game. That, or you never left the hinterlands...
As everything else story "quality" is very subjective. It is like when I see a Martin x Tolkien discussion, IMO there is no discussion, Martin is 7 heavens above Tolkien, because I like his "realistic" take on humanity better. But if someone loves the fantasy aspect of Tolkien, Martin barely scartches the surface...
In my mind the rating is complex... DAO was like WOW. DAA however is more interesting to me and if I would chose a story to continue on next instalment it would surely be DAA, not DAO. DA2 was nothing like WOW, well perhaps in some points but was closer related to me than DAO or DAA. Now Inquisition is the most epic, but in a distant way, in fact I can't relate to the story at all but I can relate to the story through companions like Solas and Morrigan, so I can't really figure out how to rate it...
I'd day:
1 - DAO: WOOOOOOOW
2 - DAA: Now that's really interesting
3 - DA2: I'm not a champion I was just trying to protect my loved ones </3
4 - DAI: Yeah cool Corypheus is trying to destroy the world, but please Solas can you tell me about the Fade again?
People on this forum are never happy, people insulted DA:O for not being BG3, people hated on DA2 for not being DA:O & for not being "epic" enough & now DA:I gets hate from some for not being DA:O2 & going back to the "hero saves the world" story even tho when BW tried to do a more personal story with DA2 they got sh*t on thx to Hawke not being a special snowflake power fantasy who solves everything like the Warden was & likely when DA4 is out there'll be alot of "DA4 sucks, DA:I was better" threads. Is really not surprising the dev's hardly seem to comment on here anymore when they get a "you suck" reaction after every game
It happens when tyou change. Let me give you a walkthrough...
Nightwish had a style, it changed, lots of haters. Simple isn't it?
Is it right? Is it wrong? Does it matter?
Thing is as many people stated here each game is a different game. DAO was closer to previous BW games, DA2 is something... DA2. And DAI is a lot of things but it is not like DA2 or DAO. So I guess it is ok to like them differently right? Or do you think that people that loved attribute system of BG (DnD) should love DAO? Or people who love crafting should love DA2? Or people who love voiced protagonist should love DAO?
Think Metallica: I don't have to buy or like St. Anger if what I really liked is Ride the Lightning, neither do I have to love Death Magnetic if I liked the Black Album. I can like only a single album, I don't need to like the band, right? It is the same with games right? Do I need to love Bioware? Can't I just love, let's say, ME2?
People should stop talking as if there was something right or virtuous in liking or hating the games. Loving is fine, hating too. It is ok to have expectations, it is ok to be disappointed, as it is ok to have your expectations fulfilled. I say why not let people love and hate with all their hearts? \o/
It is insane to discuss or judge personal likings anyway
That what we call a preference. I hate it when people speak in absolute and pretend it just an opinion. You enjoy roaming around and planting flag . That fine, but that a preference and some people don't care about this at all. Personally I don't hate or love it. I just don't care. It's just seem to be there for no other reason than reading a bit of lore( each time you plant a flag you have a bit of lore popping). Which is not bad by itself, but I wonder how many people read them... Personally I was hoping it would maybe open trade route or more of your soldier roaming/securing the area. It does not that. It does nothing. Even when bandit attack you inside one of your camp your ''soldier'' do nothing.
So true. I'm supposed to be the Inquisitor building a powerful army but I rarely saw it in the outside environment. Even when you liberate an area from Red Templars you still get Red Templar respawns in the area, closed the darkspawn tunnels on the coast...oh look here are a pack of Darkspawn in the same area as the already sealed tunnel... IMO, opening up camps and closing rifts I can tolerate as they at least are Inquisition related and have some impact on the world. Origins did an excellent job of not wasting the player's time with out of the way content. If something was becoming a chore, I could easily skip it and move on. Want to do a favor for Morrigan by getting the Grimoire? Hey it's already in the area we're in, just grab it on the way to saving the old man. In origins the main reason for being in a certain location was always top priority.
The impression I get from DAI is that they spent so much time on the maps to the point where just exploring it alone should be rewarding. The way I see it, why can't I admire the scenery AND have something irrelevant to do?
@To everyone in general, Also, let me say that I do not hate DAI. I had two playthroughs and plan to play again once some mods, console commands et al come out. I really enjoy playing as the Inquisitor. But DAI isn't perfect and I don't see why acknowledging the good in DA2 is suddenly jumping on a bandwagon. I have always defended the good of DA2. Just because the more vocal majority hated the game doesn't mean everyone did. I love all the DA games and they all have their flaws and strengths.
I think DAI is a better game overall, but DA2 told a much more compelling story. The Inquisitor saved the world, but it never felt like a struggle after you got to Skyhold. Hawke had to earn and pay a price for every little victory and to me that made for a more satisfying ending, even with so much left undone.
While I enjoyed this game, I didn't feel like I got to know my character the way I did with DA2; not to mention I really enjoyed the more personal story in Kirkwall. Out of the box I might not have enjoyed DA2 more, but after all the DLCs, yeah, I probably did. (but we haven't seen what dlc we'll get out of this game, yet) One of the few "kick me in the gut" moments I had in this game was when I left Hawke behind in the Fade, and having to tell Varric afterward.
But you shouldn't take that to mean I didn't like this game; I just really enjoyed DA2 - though it was a let down that they didn't finish the 3rd act properly.
There are definitely things I prefer from DA:2 over Inquisition. The main character, for one. Hawke was a character that had a personality (that I chose for them to have) - they actually felt like a character actively in the story instead of a blank slate, a tightly knit group of companions, a family and introduction that helped pull the player in (Herald was seriously lacking in why I should give a crap about them), and a more personal story with sidequests that didn't feel like sidequests.
Inquisition was better in terms of combat, environments, customization, pretty much the technical standpoints of the game.
I liked a lot of the story in Inquisition, but there seemed to be little of it and it felt disconnected as I played through. Parts of the narrative also felt rushed. For instance, becoming the Inquisitor and being in charge of this massive force. Why, in all of Thedas, would they put the Herald in charge? The character wasn't a leader prior to this and they never showed that they were perfect for the job. They were just put in the position because they have the mark on their hand. The PC should've had more time to come into the leader role, to prove that they could do it.
As a whole, I think Inquisition is a better game due to stronger gameplay elements. If Bioware was given more time with 2, it would've been a fantastic game.
I havent played DA2 but storywise DAI is hardly a masterpiece , so if you like a good story as i think atleast some that plays RPG´s do anyway, then its not inconceivable to think that the DA2 game could be seen as the better game. If that story wasnt worse than the DAI which would be hard.
People just start praising things years later from release. At release DA2 was universally panned around here with some people enjoying characters and combat but mostly everyone hated it.
Not even remotely true. I was very active on the forums after the release of DA2 and the opinions in the community were almost exactly 50/50 - either people liked it or people hated it, there were very few in between. Sure you had some people who hated everything - but; and some people who enjoyed everything - but; yet when you measured the overall impressions the fandom was very evenly split (someone even did a poll at one point in the forum to prove this).
Dragon Age 2 had some problems, I don't think even the people - like myself - who overall really enjoyed the game, would deny that; but I was always one of those people who defended it and I will continue to do so. Just because you claim nobody liked the game before now does not make it so.
I can't think of a single aspect, where DA2 is better than DA:I.
DA:I story and narrative are better.
DA:I map design is better
DA:I characters are better.
DA:I character interactions and dialogue are better.
DA:I combat is better.
DA:I main quests design is better.
DA:I boss battles are better.
Yeah, I don't really know what else there is.
I wonder how much the dislike for the Inquisitor is correlated with the voice over you chose. I had the English male voiceover for my first play through and I actually warmed to him. I think it fired very well with the character that I made and seemed to work. But I imagine that the American male voiceover might not have.
I can't think of a single aspect, where DA2 is better than DA:I.
More realized protagonist with a defined background that explained how you got where you were.
More camaraderie between your companions.
Some more poignant moments. (the fate of your sibling if you take them to the deep roads; the fate of your mother)
NPCs and storylines that aged with your character.
A feeling that you got to really see the unfolding political situation in the city in a natural way.
Better Qunari. (I like Iron Bull, but the Qunari presence in Kirkwall made me want to learn about Qunari and hope I would in this game; I was sad to discover the Qunari pc doesn't add much to the story.)
A more personal story that made you care about Hawke more. (this expands on #1)
Yes; this game has things going for it that DA2 did not (better maps, some awesome story quests, great and powerful cutscenes, some better companions, more chance to run around and explore ...) - no arguing that - but you can't honestly say that DA2 did nothing better.
I think it all waters down to different tastes. I like Origins for its atmosphere, the different gameplay branches and choices, the origins themselves, and for characters like Leliana and Zevran. I like DA2 for the self-made underdog hero of Hawke, the genuinely heartbreaking writing, the claustrophobic nature of the plot, and characters like Fenris and Isabela. I like DA3 for its wide scope, its beautiful environments, its large-scale battles, and its attention to detail.
I think what we all need to do is take a step back and realize that instead of trying to get Bioware to appeal to or disregard one specific group, we should accept that the fanbase is incredibly varied and has different tastes. We need to compromise and accept that there are aspects in the games some of us will adore, some of us will hate, and some of us will feel nothing for at all.
While I agree that it comes down to personal taste for the most part, DA2 had the tighter plot and more cohesive and complete characters. I also liked the concept better. DAI is pretty much your run of the mill "hero with amnesia saving the world" story, DA2's 10 year arc was much more enjoyable and interesting from the start.
On the technical side, DAI wins hands down, of course, even if I liked the artstyle of DA2 very much...
So, yea, when it comes to pure RPG merits, I still like DA2 better then DAI.
It just appears that bioware hoped to dazzle fans with the huge fantastic environments but like ME3 they forgot the core of RPG is the story.
Seams to work for many people, though... the lucky ones. 
I loved the game play of DA2. I was fine with the story, and actually had no problem being "Stuck" in Kirkwall.
It was a shock of sorts after DAO, but really, I mean, it was not a big deal to me.
What was a big deal was the emptiness of the zones, the repeated set pieces in Dungeon after Dungeon, the lack of character customization on both the main character and the companions, the fact that I could only be "Human", and all that.
Come on, DAI is a fflipping great game. I can't help but think they took a shot at Skyrim with their attempt at merging Story and Open World and I am fine with it all.
I think a lot more can be done with the war room. I wish the high level areas were harder, or I could find more hard mobs to beat up. (I only play Nightmare)
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