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[Arl Raylen]

Yeah. It's like Anders.. Anders should be in this game. He helped start the war for gods sake. At least a mission. Now if you killed him in DA2 then fine. But if you didn't - to just ignore him. And get some line from Varric (or Hawke) about him. How about giving me a chance to hunt him down and question him? Or maybe finding Justice when I'm in the fade?

 

I like my Hawke's reference of Anders. It was something like "and let me tell you, I know exactly what it's like to deal with idiot mages on destructive self-centered quests."

[errantknight]

This thread fills me with wtf. I did enjoy the DA2 DLC, however. The main game, though...that was depressing in all ways. It was an unfortunate diversion that has now been rectified.

[katokires]

Eh, I only forced myself to finish DAO because I was looking forward to DA2 and wanted a fully customized world state for DA2. Found DA2 to be much less of a chore to play through. >.>

Of course there are people like you in the world, there are all kind of people. I was talking to people that matter, people who worship Baldur's Gate and consider Origins to be Baldur's Gate spiritual successor. People that love voiceless protagonist. People that like Origins combat and heavily dislike mages fighting like Kung Fu masters. But I don't even dare say they are the majority anymore, after DA2 the good people left DA. All my friends tell me about DAI is: I told you they would let you down. Right now I am the only one that bought Inquisition, they laugh at me, I do deserve it. They moved on to other games and are happily enjoying Divinity, Shadowrun, Wasteland 2 and such. I am (was?) the last to stand by Bioware.

[elrofrost]

 

No I do not prefer DA2 over DAI as a whole but there are elements of DA2 which is far superior to DAI.

• No 8 skill lock in combat.
• Interesting straight male romance options. The ones in DAI are, to me, crap.

The 8 slot lock I'll leave alone. I've already commented on the idiocy of it many threads.

 

But the straight male romances - man they are bad. Really bad. The gay romance with Dorian is light years better then the 2 straight males romances you get. I haven't tried the others yet. But you'd think BW would do a decent job with the straight guy in this game. Just to be clear,  I'm gay IRL and I have a problem with the straight romances in this game.

[taranoire]

Of course there are people like you in the world, there are all kind of people. I was talking to people that matter, people who worship Baldur's Gate and consider Origins to be Baldur's Gate spiritual successor. People that love voiceless protagonist. People that like Origins combat and heavily dislike mages fighting like Kung Fu masters. But I don't even dare say they are the majority anymore, after DA2 the good people left DA. All my friends tell me about DAI is: I told you they would let you down. Right now I am the only one the bought Inquisition, they laugh at me, I do deserve it. They moved on to other games and are happily enjoying Divinity, Shadowrun, Wasteland 2 and such. I am (was?) the last to stand by Bioware.

well that just sounds like a personal problem to me 

maybe you need better friends

[Mathias]

*People preferring DA2 over DA:I*

 

We are officially living in a shitty movie.

 

What's funny is SOOOOOOOO many other gamers are enjoying the living hell out of DA:I. But come on to BSN and it's just endless whining and complaining. If you genuinely think DA2 is a better game than DA:I, you need to get your head checked.

[Darth Death]

BioWare Employee A: "OH MY FREAKIN GOSH, IT'S FINALLY OVER!"

 

BioWare Employee B: "I know! The late hours, no sleep, barely saw my family over the span of 4 years... Dragon Age Inquisition is finally done."

 

BioWare Employee A: "Dude, let's go on the forums and see how our fans are taking it."

 

BioWare Employee B: "I dunno, man. It may not be such a good idea."

 

BioWare Employee A: "And why freakin not?! We spent close to 4 years on this project. I mean, it's not like DAI is anything like DA2. Our fans will recognize the vast difference in quality."

 

BioWare Employee B: "Maybe you're right." 

 

 

 

*Both employees entered the thread called: "People actually prefer DA2 over DAI?"*

 

 

 

 

BioWare Employee A: "What does it say? I can't wait to read some of these responses!"

 

BioWare Employee B: "Well, let's see... Most of these posters are saying that... T-that..."

 

BioWare Employee A: "What's wrong? What are they saying? Surely it's positive?"

 

BioWare Employee B: "I suppose, but not for DAI..."

 

BioWare Employee A: "What do you mean? This is the DAI section, isn't it? Are they referring to something else?"

 

BioWare Employee B: "W-well, yes, but..."

 

BioWare Employee A: "Let me see."

 

BioWare Employee B: "NO! YOUR BODY ISN'T READY! SHIELD YOUR EYES!!"

 

BioWare Employee A: "...They... Our fans prefer DA2 over... O-over... O-over..."

 

BioWare Employee B: "I'll be alright. Let it out."

 

 

 

*BioWare Employee A starts to wail*

 

 

 

 

BioWare Employee A: "B-BUT THE LONG HOURS! THE SLEEPLESS NIGHTS! FOR 4 YEARS!!!"

 

BioWare Employee B: "I know, let it all out... We did all that we could and yet... And yet the 1 year and a half project is favored instead of... OH MAKER! "

 

 

 

 

 

Legend has it both BioWare Employee A & B are still wailing, to this very day. 

[taranoire]

???????????//

 

Has it not occurred to you that people can enjoy all three games in the Dragon Age series without being whiny pissbabies 

[Siven80]

I prefer the Inventory and skill tree UI from DA2. Far better to navigate than DAI.

 

I also prefer the instant movement and turning from DA2 compared to the slow turning, start and stop animations of movement we have in DAI

[elrofrost]

Besides the over use of the environment in DA2, What' so wrong with the game? I liked it.

[taranoire]

Besides the over use of the environment in DA2, What' so wrong with the game? I liked it.

something something baldur's gate probably 

[errantknight]

I prefer the Inventory and skill tree UI from DA2. Far better to navigate than DAI.

 

I also prefer the instant movement and turning from DA2 compared to the slow turning, start and stop animations of movement we have in DAI

Welp, the reason that changed is that the majority of fans hated it, so....yeah. In fact, most think that the changes to skill trees and inventory back toward Origins haven't gone far enough and that the combat in DA2 was entirely unimmersive. That being said, we really need to stop knocking down gates with our swords or kicking stone walls in with our feet, lol.

 

Poor Bioware. They have a lot in common with Hawke. They can't win for losing and their efforts often go unappreciated.

[renfrees]

It's unfair to compare. If DA2 had 4 years of development...

 

But I think I prefer intimacy of DA2 story and closeness to companions, who all felt like a family, over wastes and hollowness of DA:I. DA:I companions don't even interact with each other at Skyhold, and while Wicked Grace scene is great, it was like a bone, thrown to the dogs. It's all about business, right?

 

DA2 is no ME2 in terms of being a masterpiece, but there's just something FUN about it. It's so easy to replay, maybe because there aren't many "errand boy" quests or tinesinks a la Inquisition.

 

I would contend that those who aren't as fond of DAI are likely MMO players. I know I played WoW for years and so I've seen everything they did with DAI's world done better in stuff like Wrath of the Lich King. For those who aren't used to MMOs it'll be amazing, but in my single player games I prefer the DA2/Jade Empire/Kotor approach where the sidequests sort of mix into the main story seamlessly.

 

One thing I will say is that DAI has a much better theme song, probably my favorite in the series. It rivals "Suicide Mission" to me in terms of epicness.

 

Oh and also, I really miss DA2's facial animations. DAI seems to use Mass Effect 1 animations and it's frankly scary seeing my Inquisitor's hyper realistic face painfully morph into 2007 Shepard's laugh animation.

True. I've seen it before, the difference is that in DA:I I'm all alone with scripted NPC's instead of real players. And yeah, DA:I facial animations makes me cringe. I thought realistic portrayal could only be improved over the years, but guess I was wrong.

[Xx Serissia xX]

I feel like we got to know Hawke more than we did our Inquisitor.  However, I feel like playing the Inquisitor was more like playing the Warden, which I liked.  I like all of the Dragon Age games.  

[WinterRaven]

Back In my day we had to walk EVERYWHERE in my RPG without a love interest!  AND we had plot up to here! *Gestures at shoulder height*

 

 

You whipper snappers are never satisfied! Back in my day 16 pixels of Samus in a Bra was the end all be all. You have Honest-to-goodness ****** in your game. ******. 

[LinksOcarina]

Some games deserve to be on a pedestal.  I've been playing games for over 20 years, and I can count on 1 hand the games I've felt are worthy of a masterpiece title. 

 

I'm sure everyone can in some way.

 

The best game I ever played is still Ocarina of Time, after twenty-six of game playing. But I also recognize the game has flaws to it, flaws that others object too all the time when talking about Ocarina of Time, including story, graphical presentation, cut content, and even the "sameness" that is often accused of every Zelda game that comes out.

 

This doesn't make the game perfect. That is moreso the point. Worshipping a game as the best thing since sliced bread is a really dangerous attitude, because it tends to color the perceptions of any analysis put forth on the game.

 

Compound that with folks claim that liking or disliking something as being superior/inferior is also another problem that manifests from that. A nuanced point of view is really where critical analysis can come in, one that doesn't white-wash the flaws of a game, but instead embraces them and can argue for why they are not detrimental to the experience.

[9TailsFox]

Anders had a fuckin' spirit stuck in his head, and Fenris was basically tortured and forced to serve a Mage for most of his life. DA2 has a lot of problems, but it's characters are something I'll defend to the end. Except Seabass, he can die in a fire.

Now  I can use this.

[taranoire]

I'm sure everyone can in some way.

 

The best game I ever played is still Ocarina of Time, after twenty-six of game playing. But I also recognize the game has flaws to it, flaws that others object too all the time when talking about Ocarina of Time, including story, graphical presentation, cut content, and even the "sameness" that is often accused of every Zelda game that comes out.

 

This doesn't make the game perfect. That is moreso the point. Worshipping a game as the best thing since sliced bread is a really dangerous attitude, because it tends to color the perceptions of any analysis put forth on the game.

 

Compound that with folks claim that liking or disliking something as being superior/inferior is also another problem that manifests from that. A nuanced point of view is really where critical analysis can come in, one that doesn't white-wash the flaws of a game, but instead embraces them and can argue for why they are not detrimental to the experience.

this is the most intelligent thing I've ever read on this board

[LinksOcarina]

And I liked Sebastian too. We did need a chantry mouthpiece, and honestly I enjoyed his own struggle with religion and interpretation of it. 

[Camenae]

Maybe I'm missing something but different people are always preferring Game X over Game Y aren't they?

[AlanC9]

Of course there are people like you in the world, there are all kind of people. I was talking to people that matter, people who worship Baldur's Gate and consider Origins to be Baldur's Gate spiritual successor.

People that matter? If you're trying to make classic CRPG fans look like jerks, this is the way.

[MrTijger]

Eh, I own Divinity, Wasteland 2 and Shadowrun, they are fun games and are (mostly) well made but good heavens, they have barely any replay value, there's little in terms of choices and they're fairly short games. But I guess I'm not someone that matters...or something?

 

I also own Morrowind, Oblivion, Skyrim, Fallout 3 and NV, Witcher 1 & 2 and DAO, DA2 and DAI, all of whom have given me good times but the notion that I can only play a certain subset of games because "voiced protagonists!!!11111!!" is rather hilarious to me.

 

Here's a lesson, technology moves on, games move with it. Baldurs Gate has been made, its been done, it wont be done again, now stop being pretentious, please. You'll never experience that same feeling again.

[Heimdall]

The only character I think I genuinely came to dislike in DA2 was Anders, maybe Fenris to a lesser extent. More or less for the same reason.

Carver said it best:

I don't hate you because you're a mage, I hate you because you won't shut up about it!

Not that they were badly written, listening to them just got a bit annoying.

[dekarserverbot]

tell us how you really feel, your majesty 

 

Don't question royalty

[errantknight]

I disagree that Hawke's return was a mistake. It's entirely possible to have disliked DA2 and still be fond of poor benighted Hawke. His return resulted in one of the most difficult choices in the game for me. Hawke as a character was pretty much all I *did* like in DA2, except for Varric. And that's even with the fact that I didn't have enough control over who he was to feel like he was 'mine' in the same way that I did the warden or do the inquisitor