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[scyme]

I like Inquisition. There are cosmetical issues and other stuff that annoys me but overall I enjoy the ride. Having said that, at the end of the day I prefer DA II despite its shortcomings. Female sarcastic Hawke (and her companions) has really grown on me and like others here I also prefer a more personal story. Ultimately it's the right mixture of humour and tragedy that really speaks to me. No accounting for taste I guess  , just have to finish this with one of my favourite Hawke quotes:  

 

"I'd like to know who this "Corypheus" is. With a name like that, he's bound to go "mwa-ha-ha" at some point. I just know it."

[Little Princess Peach]

Inquisition is far better than 2 but not as good as origins da:2 never happend

[Hazegurl]

I think Hawke should have been the protag of Inquisition. i think that would have solved some of the story related problems with DAI.

 

Mind you, I love my Inquisitor but it would have been wonderful to track down my former companions and see what they were up to. The relationships would have been more personal as you would have people who know the PC without all the Andraste business, this could be good for PCs who deny the whole thing and just want to be around some real friends and take a breather. Of course I don't mind adding the DAI companions as well. I think the dynamic of Hawke's friends meeting a new bunch would have been good. Can you imagine Fenris meeting and traveling around with Dorian?? lol!!

 

I can imagine my Hawke breaking Fenris' heart cause he fell for Dorian, as well.  So it would add more options to the romances which everyone loves. 

 

Having Cory as the main villain would have made more sense. It's Hawke's blood that can bind him so he would have been seen as a constant threat to Cory. Having the anchor, defeating him once, AND have the possible power to bind him again. 

 

Dealing with a Grey Warden sibling who is hearing the premature calling would have fleshed out the personal story some more. Perhaps losing GW Bethany and Carver to it would be a tragic loss that some feel is missing from DAI.  Come to think of it, even a Mage Bethany and Templar Carver would have faced some adversity that could end in their deaths and make it more personal for the protag vs Cory.

 

The more I think about, the more I really would have liked Hawke as the inquisitor. It seems the story was almost tailor made for him.

[Vilegrim]

some people like One Direction..so no accounting for taste.

[quebra]

DAO maybe (if you don't know why, then you didn't play it), DA2, no way.

[9TailsFox]

*People preferring DA2 over DA:I*

 

We are officially living in a shitty movie.

 

What's funny is SOOOOOOOO many other gamers are enjoying the living hell out of DA:I. But come on to BSN and it's just endless whining and complaining. If you genuinely think DA2 is a better game than DA:I, you need to get your head checked.

[DarthSliver]

Well I say the flaw with DA2 was the lack of unique areas where the description obviously detailed the area as a different location versus revisiting an area. 

[alchemist42]

Hah, you’re drawing out the 10% of players who loved DA2 in this thread!  I’m one of them too, but that wasn’t always the case, playing it on normal = boring hack & slash game (basically you could win fights just watching on normal!), it wasn’t until I played it on nightmare it began to shine learning how to build my team, tactics, combos and so on. 

 

DA2 felt personal, great characters (all a bit damaged just like in real life), loved the 3 way power struggle between the mages, qunari and templars.  Most of  all loved fem Hawke and Isabella (romance).  Played DA2 maybe 8 times, can’t see that happening with DAI.

 

If only DA2 had the scope and environments of DAI!

[Dabrikishaw]

Being able to have 2 specializations on the main character is literally the only thing Dragon AGe II has over the third game to me.

[The Earl Of Bronze]

 DA2 had far superior gameplay to DAI.

[Cheech 2.0]

I preferred DA2 over DAI and DAO. I have the same complaints that people have described in other threads, but the biggest gripe about DAI is that I just didn't care about the Inquisitor, the story, and most of the companions. I doubt I'll ever play it again, it just felt like a chore trying to enjoy something I began to loathe by the end of my play through. If you enjoy it props to you, but it's my most disappointing game of the year.

[Skeevley]

IIRC the primary issues with DA2 were: being forced to play a specific entity (lack of character flexibility), poor camera, no tactical cam, overly action-oriented gameplay and combat, lack of customization of party members clothing, and an absolutely absurd amount of re-use of maps, etc. The story was fine, excellent even, many of the characters had GPP (Genuine People Personalities ™) and seemed very fleshed-out, deep, and alive (like DAO).

 

So in retrospect, DA2 may well be better than DAI in a number of fundamental ways that Bioware customers really (REALLY) care about. For example, I'm now over 70 hours into gameplay on DAI I and have yet to find a single character I give a rat's-arse about. I don't even really care much about my own character. I'm hoping this will change as I progress through the main storyline further, but so far the single most fundamental thing I loved about DAO (and eventually DA2 - I modded it so I could fully enjoy the story and characters while doing almost zero combat) seems to be missing from DAI. It would help if the voice-acting was better maybe. Even the characters I already know from the other games seem kind of monotone... Anyway, hopefully this will change, but so far, after many hours, I haven't found a single character anywhere near as compelling as Morrigan or Alastair, or Merril, or Isabella or Aveline, or Leliana, or Varric, (both of whom were incredibly fleshed-out characters in DAO/DA2 but seem like empty shells in DAI) or... or... or... or... And in many cases those characters began to grow on you, or offend you, or anger you, or make you love them even though you didn't want to, within just a few hours of knowing them. Players actually agonized over decisions because they felt so much empathy for the characters... In DAI I wouldn't care if any of them died. I wouldn't care if I killed them myself. Who cares? They don't seem real.

 

So, if I had to pick, right now, then yep, I would choose DA2 over DAI. I'm hoping that will change of course! I'm very much hoping that the characters will grow on me!

[Corto81]

I think Hawke should have been the protag of Inquisition. i think that would have solved some of the story related problems with DAI.

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The more I think about, the more I really would have liked Hawke as the inquisitor. It seems the story was almost tailor made for him.

 

I think most people (me included) think Bioware intended for Hawke to be DA'S Shepard.

 

What they didn't count on was the massive backlash from the fans when they took out race choice in a fantasy game that had it in the original game.

And then they changed it. And it doesn't really feel to like they did it correctly, the introduction of your Inquisitor is the weakest I've ever seen in a Bioware game.

And it's the first one where you don't matter originally because of something you do, but because of something you are (guy with the green hand).

[Sweawm]

To be honest, I just never felt the same attachment to the Inquisitor and co. as I did to the party in DA2.

 

Dragon Age: Origins was admissibly the height. The right amount of gameplay and story balanced perfectly.   

 

Dragon Age 2 I felt was carried by its story, which I personally enjoyed myself. It was great to see Bioware write a personal struggle, not another save the world. You have to admit it was original.

 

Dragon Age: Inquisition, I must admit had the best gameplay. It had FIVE times as much gameplay content. Yet the same amount of story as DA:O. Therefore the story felt totally sparse in comparison to previous installments. 

 

So to be honest, I enjoy DA:2 the most, just on the fact that I enjoy the player-character and companions far more than I ever did in DA:O and DA:I. DA2 to be honest, is the ME2 of the Dragon Age series. 

[AWTEW]

I play it on PS4, and everything works fine for me.
 
As for average story, I don't think we played the same game. That, or you never left the hinterlands...

 Oh I left the hinterlans and just finished the abyss quest, when DAI broke my console. DAI had good moments but ey were so disjointed and so far inbetween they felt disconnected and irellivent. 

BioWare's BIGGEST mistake was to bring back Hawke into DA:I. Everyone has their ending story of their Hawke character, and by bringing back this character kind of ruins the moment.
 
Heroes from previous games should NEVER return back. Theirs zero point of doing this.

 Actually, Hawke did not have an ending, it was left with an obvious TBC story hook, and the expansion pack that finished hawkes story was canceled when it was about 3/4 finished. So Hawke needed to come back, because of that..they made a good character and owed them an ending. 

Your highness needs to play a larger catalogue of games if your royal self believes DA2 to be the second worst ever. I suppose your royal retainers must shield you from the worst games though.

  AKA Superman 64 and E.T 

*People preferring DA2 over DA:I*
 
We are officially living in a shitty movie.
 

What's funny is SOOOOOOOO many other gamers are enjoying the living hell out of DA:I. But come on to BSN and it's just endless whining and complaining. If you genuinely think DA2 is a better game than DA:I, you need to get your head checked.

My head and other DA2's fans head are perfectly fine. And for future reference: you shouldn't say something like that, because mental illness is not a joke.

[Taritu]

Hawke, especially sarcastic Hawke, had a far stronger personality than the Inquisitor.  She (or he) was just much more fun to be, for me.

 

In a differnt way DA:O's origin sequences made me identitfy very strongly with my characters (especially the noble, female city elf, or either of the dwarf ones).

 

The Inquisitor is more of a blank slate, and it's harder to care about him or her. 

 

Does that make DA2 a better game?  No, but it is something DA2 did better, in my opinion. 

 

I would have been very happy with a DA3 that fixed the problems of DA2 as in expansion, with maybe a little bit more tuning, and I like my Hawke far more than my Inquisitor.

[Saricc]

DA2 was pretty bad. I don't know how anyone could prefer it over Inquisition. 

 

I mean the gameplay wasn't anything special, the game lacked story variety (most of the game consisted around two choices: Mage or Templar?), Hawke's group wasn't really that likable, and finally the game became extremely dull half way through the second act. Aside from the gameplay, DAI made up for everything that was bad about DA2. 

 

I don't really understand how people felt disconnected from the Inquisitor... Was it because of a lack of an origin story or something? 

 

P.S. I still think DAO was the best game of the series, and at this point I don't think anything is going to change my mind lol. You had the scope of Inquisition, the origin of DA2, and companions that were for the most part enjoyable. 

[Ieldra]

Hawke, especially sarcastic Hawke, had a far stronger personality than the Inquisitor.  She (or he) was just much more fun to be, for me.

Well, that's the good and the bad in one sentence. The Inquisitor doesn't have a defined personality, not even one of three, which means their lines are more neutral and you can infuse a personality of your own creation. I like Hawke and their story (DA2 as a game, not so much), but the way DAI does it is far better for roleplaying.

 

I did and do care about Hawke, but it took quite a bit of mental effort to make them mine, unlike my Inquisitors. I may be caged in the role in DAI, but I can deal with that in-world as a roleplaying challenge - DAI gives me the tools to do that. Hawke has predefined personal goals which I find rather more restrictive than I prefer.

[WarBaby2]

Well, that's the good and the bad in one sentence. The Inquisitor doesn't have a defined personality, not even one of three, which means their lines are more neutral and you can infuse a personality of your own creation. I like Hawke and their story (DA2 as a game, not so much), but the way DAI does it is far better for roleplaying.

 

I did and do care about Hawke, but it took quite a bit of mental effort to make them mine, unlike my Inquisitors. I may be caged in the role in DAI, but I can deal with that in-world as a roleplaying challenge - DAI gives me the tools to do that. 

Yea, but, let's face it, the BW RPGs of the last couple of years never did well in facilitating roleplaying like the older ones did. There main characters have been much to predefined and the stories far to hand holding, especially since voiced main characters have been introduced.

[hellbiter88]

So anyone besides me remembering that not that long ago before DA: I release, DA: II was the "cool" thing to hate? Now ...what? DA: I is the new cool thing to hate? Jeeeeeze.

 

I like both games. Now where's my cookie?!

[Icy Magebane]

I've only played Inquisition once, and while I did enjoy it, I don't plan to play it again anytime soon... that said, I've played DA2 numerous times... I never imagined I'd say this, but in spite of all the flaws that game has, I think I actually do prefer DA2 to DA:I.  The cast is a little better in DA:I, and the combat is a bit more polished, but on the other hand, they lock you into 8 abilities per combat and whatever weapons you happen to have on you at the time.  If that isn't bad enough, they removed pretty much the entire companion tactics system and replaced it with an overly simplistic one that's really only good for keeping the party from drinking all the potions at once.  And then there are the environments... as much as we used to complain about going back to the Cave and the Wounded Coast, roaming around huge areas like the Hinterlands and the Western Approach with very little to do but kill wildlife wasn't really the improvement I had in mind... DA:I was a decent attempt, but I think I had more fun with DA2.  Like I said, I only played this new game one time and might never feel like revisiting it... to DA2's credit, it was at least short enough that you could play it more than once without taking several months to recover from the tedium of endless grinding (reaching the level cap about 20 hours before the game ended didn't help matters).  At least, that's how I felt, anyway...

 

edit:  ugh... forgot to write "once" in the first sentence... I'm sure this made no sense without that...

[Vox Draco]

I only played DA2 twice for real. It never really sparked with me. Can't say why, maybe it was the guys falling from teh sky that turned me off, or the deja-vu-dungeons (both issues are so much rectified by eh superb enviroments in DAI...that alone makes me realize that, despite any claims I amde in the past, graphics and locations DO matter in an RPG, at least to me...^^)

 

The story? Okay, and a new approach with the ten-years-span. But that was also the main problem, it made it harder for me to connect. There you are, killing the idiot Artischock and ... bam, Champion of Kirkwall, most important person in the City...a bit hard to swallow for me at least. And the whoel templar-mage-thingy came a bit too apprupt in the end. Yes, some build-up was made but..it never felt like the focus of the story...

 

In fact DA2 is/was nothing more than an elaborate Prologue to Inquisition. Red Lyrium? Templar-Mage war? Main Villain? If they now also had thrown in a Qunari-inavsion all would have been covered I guess. Or, if you believe in "Hawke was meant to be Thedas' Shepard", then DA2 was only an elaborate Origins-story for teh new rising star of Thedas that ... fell sadly on her face and was reduced to supporting role.

 

All in all, DA2 is for me only filler-material. The real meat is in DAO and DAI. I wouldn't mind though if tehy do such a game in-between the epic ones again. Not as rushed though, but more linear, focusing on a single char, telling a compact, not too epic story, in a location like a city with a bit of countryside.

 

Would be cool to have before DA: Blightstorm ™, where we wage war against the Darkspawn and their weird twisted newly-createdArchdemon while the idiotic Qunari are invading (and of course both are utterly vanquished! Hooray!). We'll be playing a Grey Warden and .. Ride Griffons!!! 't will be fantastic!

[Teddie Sage]

I couldn't say since I haven't played the game yet, only watched tons of streams and tons of Youtube videos. DA2, even if it's the black sheep of the recent fanbase, is one of my favourite video games out there. I love the companions and the interactions between them. I also loved the combat system and the soundtrack.

[Teddie Sage]

So anyone besides me remembering that not that long ago before DA: I release, DA: II was the "cool" thing to hate? Now ...what? DA: I is the new cool thing to hate? Jeeeeeze.

 

I like both games. Now where's my cookie?!

This happened with Final Fantasy 8, then 9, then 10, then 10-2, then 11, then 12, then 13, then 13-2, then Lightning Returns... It will continue to happen because people always like to complain about something. The Hipster effect, like I call it, is starting to sap a lot of my fun as a fan, as I go on boards to chat about video games then people just bash one another because they can't accept their differences. It's rare I can find a good place where people aren't acting childish over their hobbies. Then there are people who just loves complaining to make a scene and make themselves feel important.

[StingingVelvet]

I think I do. DA2 felt more like a tactical RPG, even if it was simplified. I liked the art style. The quest design was better and more interesting.

 

DA:I isn't a great action game or tactical game, it's muddled in-between. And the large open worlds failed for me because there's nothing interesting to do in them.