So I'm playing on hard made as a mage and I want to build Iron Bull up as a tanky aggro machine. Damage isn't so important (except for the occasional shatter combo), but I want to keep iron bull with a 2 hander. Is it possible and if so, how should I build him up?
Need advice on building Iron Bull
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Raycer X
, déc. 10 2014 05:56
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Posté 10 décembre 2014 - 06:09
Farangbaa
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Yes. I play on Nightmare using him as tank.
My party:
PC: (Drow) Elf Mage, Knight Enchanter
Iron Bull
Sera
Solas
From the Vanguard-tree:
-War Cry (not upgraded yet, but I will later)
-Charging Bull. Disabled in tactics, the AI is horrible at using it. If you use the ability manually you can stop it at any moment and you can give it direction. Also not upgraded yet, but will later
-Untouchable defense
-Cutting words
-It'll cost you
-Unbowed + upgrade
From the Two Handed tree:
-Mighty Blow (not upgraded yet)
From the Reaver tree:
-Ring of Pain
-Fervor
-Blood Frenzy
-Terrifying Fury
-Scenting Blood
-Rampage (focus power)
It's all about generating Guard. War Cry and Unbowed are excellent in large groups. Manually take control of Bull when his guard is down and use charging Bull in a group of enemies to regain guard. Activation cost for this skill is very low and it recharges fast.
I realize I only have one skill from the Two Handed tree, but as he nears level 20 I'll probably add more.
If you don't want to manually control Iron Bull from time to time, don't make him your tank.
Also note that this only gives him 6 active skills at the moment. Most of the skills are passives that increase attributes. This game is all about passives, people, it's not DA:O.
And maybe too obvious, but: give him a 2 handed weapon with AoE damage.
My party:
PC: (Drow) Elf Mage, Knight Enchanter
Iron Bull
Sera
Solas
From the Vanguard-tree:
-War Cry (not upgraded yet, but I will later)
-Charging Bull. Disabled in tactics, the AI is horrible at using it. If you use the ability manually you can stop it at any moment and you can give it direction. Also not upgraded yet, but will later
-Untouchable defense
-Cutting words
-It'll cost you
-Unbowed + upgrade
From the Two Handed tree:
-Mighty Blow (not upgraded yet)
From the Reaver tree:
-Ring of Pain
-Fervor
-Blood Frenzy
-Terrifying Fury
-Scenting Blood
-Rampage (focus power)
It's all about generating Guard. War Cry and Unbowed are excellent in large groups. Manually take control of Bull when his guard is down and use charging Bull in a group of enemies to regain guard. Activation cost for this skill is very low and it recharges fast.
I realize I only have one skill from the Two Handed tree, but as he nears level 20 I'll probably add more.
If you don't want to manually control Iron Bull from time to time, don't make him your tank.
Also note that this only gives him 6 active skills at the moment. Most of the skills are passives that increase attributes. This game is all about passives, people, it's not DA:O.
And maybe too obvious, but: give him a 2 handed weapon with AoE damage.
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Posté 12 décembre 2014 - 01:19
Raycer X
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Having to do so much manual control is troubling, especially since the previous 2 games allowed for AI tactic fine tuning. What a shame.
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Posté 12 décembre 2014 - 01:27
cJohnOne
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Matth85 has some early builds in Classes and Builds. The ideas is to knock them down with grappling hook and then him them with might blow. You want to take coup de grace as soon as possible I guess. Well that's the idea anyway.
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Posté 12 décembre 2014 - 05:57
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So I'm playing on hard made as a mage and I want to build Iron Bull up as a tanky aggro machine. Damage isn't so important (except for the occasional shatter combo), but I want to keep iron bull with a 2 hander. Is it possible and if so, how should I build him up?
On hard it's certainly possible. Get Turn Blade and Turn Arrows from S&S tree, get decent armor, get the two taunts, maybe Block and Slash... and that's really all you need. A mage for barrier.
Also, he won't be hitting any shatter combos with a 2H until that's patched. Well, not for any damage.
