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#51
Angelus_de_Mortiel
Posté 16 juin 2015 - 11:52

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Wow, still bugged? For some reason I had thought that had been fixed in the past.

 

Poop. This is good to know so I can take a useless ring off and replace it with something else.

 

Easiest way to tell whether an ability works or not: See if it updated the ability description/tool-tip. If it did not change anything in the description, it's almost certain that it is not working. Leaping Shot, for example, does not update the description, but Long Shot does.

I would note that at least a good majority of the rings are working now, however.


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#52
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Posté 16 juin 2015 - 12:22

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Easiest way to tell whether an ability works or not: See if it updated the ability description/tool-tip. If it did not change anything in the description, it's almost certain that it is not working. Leaping Shot, for example, does not update the description, but Long Shot does.

I would note that at least a good majority of the rings are working now, however.

 

Superb tip, thanks. I had it in my head that weapon damage related values were static and that the ring adding 30% would be after that calculation, I was so wrong. This is great, just spent a while going through my ring collection!


#53
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Posté 16 juin 2015 - 12:47

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Easiest way to tell whether an ability works or not: See if it updated the ability description/tool-tip. If it did not change anything in the description, it's almost certain that it is not working. Leaping Shot, for example, does not update the description, but Long Shot does.

I would note that at least a good majority of the rings are working now, however.

 

Yes it's true. 

Still balance changes and sometimes other things mess up with values a lot.

On changed abilities rings gives either less or more than should, on some skills (Blizzard) they give bonus based on base value, not upgraded one.

On shadowstrike it looks like ability and bonus damage is affected by ring, making it a huge bonus to damage.


#54
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Posté 16 juin 2015 - 12:50

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This is clearly inferior to the Danny Glover build

http://forum.bioware...y-glover-build/

Penguin if your reading this I challenge you to a thunderdome!!
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#55
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Posté 16 juin 2015 - 01:17

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Yes it's true. 

Still balance changes and sometimes other things mess up with values a lot.

On changed abilities rings gives either less or more than should, on some skills (Blizzard) they give bonus based on base value, not upgraded one.

On shadowstrike it looks like ability and bonus damage is affected by ring, making it a huge bonus to damage.

 

Long Shot is the same as Shadow Strike, in that regard.

 

Some of the rings gave very inconsistent bonuses to damage before balance changes though, so the balance changes just highlighted more what was already there.

A while back, I raised an eyebrow at how the math worked where 75% weapon damage became 100% with a 30% bonus on I think it was Spinning Blades. An additive bonus (75% + 30%) would give you 105%, whereas a multiplicative bonus (75% * 1.3) would give you 97.5%, yet the tool-tip updated to 100%. Needless to say, that was fixed I believe.

 

It's weird though how some of them are additive, like Whirlwind (100% weapon damage with ring), yet others are multiplicative, like Twin Fangs (266% weapon damage with ring).


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Posté 16 juin 2015 - 01:46

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This is clearly inferior to the Danny Glover build

http://forum.bioware...y-glover-build/

Penguin if your reading this I challenge you to a thunderdome!!

 

Must equip the nail gun and say "nailed em" as a pun at least once per match.


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#57
ALTBOULI
Posté 16 juin 2015 - 08:34

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Must equip the nail gun and say "nailed em" as a pun at least once per match.


You lack the headknowledge to do that
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#58
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Posté 16 juin 2015 - 10:14

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You lack the headknowledge to do that

 

I'm gettin' too old for this s***.


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#59
DragonRacer
Posté 16 juin 2015 - 10:21

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You lack the headknowledge to do that

 

Oh, God, that's a term I haven't heard in a looooong time.

 

Wow, that brought back memories.


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Posté 16 juin 2015 - 10:34

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Oh, God, that's a term I haven't heard in a looooong time.

 

Wow, that brought back memories.

I saw him on the ME3 forums recently, classic ME3 discussions/arguments  :D


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Posté 16 juin 2015 - 11:35

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This is clearly inferior to the Danny Glover build

http://forum.bioware...y-glover-build/

Penguin if your reading this I challenge you to a thunderdome!!


I invented that build.
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#62
ALTBOULI
Posté 17 juin 2015 - 12:01

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I invented that build.


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#63
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Posté 17 juin 2015 - 12:18

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https://www.youtube....h?v=e5HkuhSEnPQ


#64
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Posté 17 juin 2015 - 03:46

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You lack the headknowledge to do that

 

I feel I should get this reference but I don't :/


#65
DragonRacer
Posté 17 juin 2015 - 04:35

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I feel I should get this reference but I don't :/

 

From the ME3MP days. Caineghis used that phrase or at least that phrase is attributed to him. Became an ongoing inside joke for years. 


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Posté 17 juin 2015 - 04:43

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I would like to point out that I am very bitter that they included an ability in DA:I called "Shadow Strike." It confuses me, and I don't like it.


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#67
ALTBOULI
Posté 17 juin 2015 - 04:51

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Yeah he got a bit ahead of himself and came out with that wonderful phrase. It has been used as a joke ever since

#68
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Posté 17 juin 2015 - 05:48

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That dude creeped me out. I signed up for that N7 thing peeps made and I got paired with him so that he could check off my challenge completion and never did another one because of him, lol.

He wasn't overtly rude or anything, just rubbed me the wrong way. Kept going on about how he must be famous or something because he has a YouTube channel, I just could take him seriously after that, lol.

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Posté 17 juin 2015 - 06:04

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I would like to point out that I am very bitter that they included an ability in DA:I called "Shadow Strike." It confuses me, and I don't like it.

 

Ha ha!


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Kenny Bania
Posté 17 juin 2015 - 06:39

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That dude creeped me out. I signed up for that N7 thing peeps made and I got paired with him so that he could check off my challenge completion and never did another one because of him, lol.

He wasn't overtly rude or anything, just rubbed me the wrong way. Kept going on about how he must be famous or something because he has a YouTube channel, I just could take him seriously after that, lol.

 

Lol.


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#71
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Posté 17 juin 2015 - 07:17

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The Hunter without Stealth feels like an Infiltrator without Tactical Cloak. It is just not right.
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#72
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Posté 17 juin 2015 - 07:21

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The Hunter without Stealth feels like an Infiltrator without Tactical Cloak. It is just not right.

 

What? The two aren't remotely comparable. Hunter is perfectly playable on perilous without stealth. Infiltrators were completely useless without tactical cloak. You could make a case for the Assassin without stealth, but the hunter? No way.


#73
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Posté 17 juin 2015 - 07:43

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What? Is this a bug? I had no idea about this.

Wow, still bugged? For some reason I had thought that had been fixed in the past.
 
Poop. This is good to know so I can take a useless ring off and replace it with something else.

Yeah guys I'm afraid it's been broken for some time :/

#74
Texasmotiv
Posté 17 juin 2015 - 07:52

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Yeah guys I'm afraid it's been broken for some time :/

 

I had to tell some poor guy last night about the long shot ring. I felt like the guy that tells an acquaintance that his old lady was fooling around on him. Maybe I should have let him live in bliss.


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Kenny Bania
Posté 17 juin 2015 - 08:01

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What? The two aren't remotely comparable. Hunter is perfectly playable on perilous without stealth. Infiltrators were completely useless without tactical cloak. You could make a case for the Assassin without stealth, but the hunter? No way.

 

I can't agree with this. The HI & the GI off the top would still be very good kits (obviously with a top tier weapon).


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