You miss out on some hugely important stuff.
It kinda sucks because in DAO it's pretty heavily implied the DARK is an evil and bad thing. Granted there have been some character personality changes and Bioware really didn't know where that story arc was going at that point.
But still...I saw all these people talking about Kieren...I finally said "wtf" and looked him up and saw the big stuff around him, Flemeth and OG soul(?).
It can still be an evil and bad thing, I think it's not really a good thing Flemeth or Solas gets the soul. Considering Flemeth her thirst for vengeance and Solas only caring about helping "his" people, I think some dreadful things will happen in a future game.
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So if the boy grew up to become corrupt an killed his mom n dad would you still be here moaning cause ppl choose differently than you
Actually we don't know what the implications of the Dark Ritual are, even now. It is stated that Morrigan went through with it to preserve the spirit of the Old God, much like she wanted to preserve the Well of Sorrows. Morrigan's apparent motivation is to keep ancient and unusual artifacts safe.
Players seemed to be ahead of Morrigan herself thinking that Flemeth wanted the Old God soul, because it came as a surprise to Morrigan when Fleemth arrived to grab it. So we got to see Kieran and we know the soul will eventually play some kind of role, but to what end? Seeing as there is a mysterious interaction between the two folks in the after credits scene, will the soul play a role to empower a future enemy (making things worse for the hero to face it)? Or will the ultimate sacrifice heroes rob a future villain of that power that they would otherwise misuse?
Or maybe the soul will save more lives if it is present as opposed to if it isn't? We don't know. I prefer my game with a dead warden and a dead champion. The Wardens have a general to help them rebuild, and no one possesses that power from Urthemiel.
So if the boy grew up to become corrupt an killed his mom n dad would you still be here moaning cause ppl choose differently than you
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You made a choice. Bioware games are always about choices it just turns out that this choice bioware decide to provide content for rather then having it play a bit part.
Actually we don't know what the implications of the Dark Ritual are, even now. It is stated that Morrigan went through with it to preserve the spirit of the Old God, much like she wanted to preserve the Well of Sorrows. Morrigan's apparent motivation is to keep ancient and unusual artifacts safe.
Players seemed to be ahead of Morrigan herself thinking that Flemeth wanted the Old God soul, because it came as a surprise to Morrigan when Fleemth arrived to grab it. So we got to see Kieran and we know the soul will eventually play some kind of role, but to what end? Seeing as there is a mysterious interaction between the two folks in the after credits scene, will the soul play a role to empower a future enemy (making things worse for the hero to face it)? Or will the ultimate sacrifice heroes rob a future villain of that power that they would otherwise misuse?
Or maybe the soul will save more lives if it is present as opposed to if it isn't? We don't know. I prefer my game with a dead warden and a dead champion. The Wardens have a general to help them rebuild, and no one possesses that power from Urthemiel.
Exactly, the after credits scene means it's no longer just a side thing that doesn't matter.
In my playthrough where I had an Ultimate Sacrifice Warden, the whole thing felt very natural and I enjoyed it. I almost prefer Morrigan without Kieran--it's a different spin, certainly. If I hadn't gone through a DR worldstate in my first run, I don't think I would've felt like anything was missing.
Also, the fact that the after-credits scene doesn't appear to change just makes things weird.
It kinda sucks because in DAO it's pretty heavily implied the DARK is an evil and bad thing. Granted there have been some character personality changes and Bioware really didn't know where that story arc was going at that point.
But still...I saw all these people talking about Kieren...I finally said "wtf" and looked him up and saw the big stuff around him, Flemeth and OG soul(?).
Actually, aside that DARK word in the name of the ritual - what part of DAO "pretty heavily implied" it's evilness?
In the after credits scene it looks like Flemeth releases the old god baby soul into the eluvian...
Exactly, the after credits scene means it's no longer just a side thing that doesn't matter.
Exactly, the after credits scene means it's no longer just a side thing that doesn't matter.
I would like it if Bioware would at least wrap up the Old God soul story with some DLC. It's been three games now. I love Inquisition, don't get me wrong. But three games? Please just finish that loose end jesus.
Where do you get that from? I got the exact same scene, everyone did, DR or no. The flaw with your logic is that the DR is not canon, and if BioWare were to use their own canon for the series, instead of trying to write in all the possible scenarios like they do now, there would still be no OGB, since BioWare's canon has a female Dalish that did the US ending.
His logic is that Flemeth either does or does not take the Old God soul. We also have no idea what in the hell is happening in the after credits scene. No one does. It is all speculation and opinion. Does Flemeth die? Does dudeman kill her? Does one take the power of the other? If they do what happens to the Old God soul if it is present? I also sincerely doubt Bioware would animate several cutscenes specifically for one choice three games ago if it wouldn't have some impact of something down the line.
Tuchanka from Mass Effect is a great example of a ton of choices, some far less major than the DR, coming together to make a "perfect" ending available. So yea, I think the Old God soul will eventually do a thing. What thing? Who knows.
In my 'canon' playthrough of DAO and Awakenings.
The 'dark' ritual is anything but dark.
My Warden was in a relationship with Morrigan, and tried to save as many people of every race as possible wherever they could, and in Awakenings this was emphasized with the Architect.
If anything - the ritual fit perfectly with every other decision my Warden had played.
That said - BioWares big marquee events that occur, always occur anyway - there is just some slight variation on the how the story gets to them. So, the ritual is just another altered codex entry on how we get to those events in future Dragon Age games.
His logic is that Flemeth either does or does not take the Old God soul. We also have no idea what in the hell is happening in the after credits scene. No one does. It is all speculation and opinion. Does Flemeth die? Does dudeman kill her? Does one take the power of the other? If they do what happens to the Old God soul if it is present? I also sincerely doubt Bioware would animate several cutscenes specifically for one choice three games ago if it wouldn't have some impact of something down the line.
Tuchanka from Mass Effect is a great example of a ton of choices, some far less major than the DR, coming together to make a "perfect" ending available. So yea, I think the Old God soul will eventually do a thing. What thing? Who knows.
Actually the only thing you get is bioware's way of sweeping the OG soul under the carpet.
It's just an old god soul, it's not like it holds the secret to creation. They might have been able to teach blood magic, but even that's disputed.
Even Morrigan tells you, it was about preserving something ancient, not about the power it might hold.
If anything DAI made OGB and the Dark Ritual a non issue, if Morrigan has a child then he's no longer the OGB and how the Warden is alive wont matter if they find a cure for the taint.
OGB's existence isn't something BW will have to write around any more and all it took was a few extra scenes and a war table mission.
Actually, aside that DARK word in the name of the ritual - what part of DAO "pretty heavily implied" it's evilness?
The fact that it was Morrigan doing the ritual and getting the baby and being so secretive about the whole thing.
Actually we don't know what the implications of the Dark Ritual are, even now. It is stated that Morrigan went through with it to preserve the spirit of the Old God, much like she wanted to preserve the Well of Sorrows. Morrigan's apparent motivation is to keep ancient and unusual artifacts safe.
Using the Well means that when Morrigan dies the Well is gone. That is not keeping it safe.
Exactly, the after credits scene means it's no longer just a side thing that doesn't matter.
I'm actually curious now as to weather or not the old god soul is going to be the ultimate factor in the future here. It sounds like at the end Solas went to absorb Flemeth because the people, presumeably elves needed him, however we don't really know if he knew about Flemeth(Mythal) using Morrigan and the Hero of Fereldan/Alistair for the dark ritual.
Now since Flemeth is Mythal, she knows what Solas (Fen'Harel) did to the ancient elvan gods, assumeing the other stories are to be believed, she would likely also know the dread wolf would find her eventually, putting an end to her, and she wouldn't be able to stop him. The dark ritual could have been Mythal's plan to trick the trickster all along, and when he went to absorb/kill her, it allowed her to take over him instead.
Maybe I'm going too much into this though, but I feel like they wanted the dark ritual to be a major factor for the series, and this could change everything. Instead of Solas trying once agian to set things right, we would have Mythal freeing the other elvan gods upon the world. But if that was the case you would need two almost completely different stories for the next chapter of the series.
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